Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

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Originally Posted by vy65

Exactly. But I find it funny that no cultists are chomping at the bit in responding to me to show how great of a job their Jim Jones has done.

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They're mostly mathematically and computer illiterate (Dale), or dumb as fuck (the rest of them you find in TGW mentions)

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Originally Posted by Reck

You're more interested in putting on a band aid than an actual cure? Brave

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I guess you don't mind waiting two years (or more).

We need something similar to Tamiflu, but for covid.

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1iCZpFMYd0

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:lol

https://www.promiseskept.com/achieve...omy-and-jobs/#

:lol

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U.S. Gross Domestic Product (GDP) growth has soared under President Trump, topping 3% in 4 quarters under his administration.

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President Trump is unleashing economic growth and jobs. Since his election, the Trump administration’s pro-growth policies have generated 6 million new jobs, the unemployment rate has fallen to its lowest point in 50 years, and wages have grown at more than 3% for 10 months in a row.

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President Trump has worked to improve access to affordable quality health care.

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President Trump is modernizing the United States military to meet the security needs of the 21st century.

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So many L's

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Originally Posted by vy65

Exactly. But I find it funny that no cultists are chomping at the bit in responding to me to show how great of a job their Jim Jones has done.

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Not a valid metric when the most populous countries by far aren't reporting accurately. Don't use bullshit numbers to prove a point.

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Originally Posted by Splits

When you have 4% of the world's population, yet 1/3 of covid cases and 1/4 of covid deaths, there is no metric which says the US did a good job.

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This is the problem with reporting COVID numbers. Some countries don't want to be called out so they don't report accurately then someone like you uses the reported numbers as if they are factual when making value judgments. That totally ignores these lying governments, which is what they want. Good job propping up Xi.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

Maybe we shouldn't get hopes up too high for a vaccine, for similar reasons that we're not holding our breath for vaccines for the common cold.

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Looks like we might have a working vaccine by September...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/27/w...te-oxford.html

In the worldwide race for a vaccine to stop the coronavirus, the laboratory sprinting fastest is at Oxford University.

Most other teams have had to start with small clinical trials of a few hundred participants to demonstrate safety. But scientists at the university’s Jenner Institute had a running start on a vaccine, having proved in previous trials that similar inoculations — including one last year against an earlier coronavirus — were harmless to humans.

That has enabled them to leap ahead and schedule tests of their new coronavirus vaccine involving more than 6,000 people by the end of next month, hoping to show not only that it is safe, but also that it works.

The Oxford scientists now say that with an emergency approval from regulators, the first few million doses of their vaccine could be available by September — at least several months ahead of any of the other announced efforts — if it proves to be effective.

Now, they have received promising news suggesting that it might.

Scientists at the National Institutes of Health’s Rocky Mountain Laboratory in Montana last month inoculated six rhesus macaque monkeys with single doses of the Oxford vaccine. The animals were then exposed to heavy quantities of the virus that is causing the pandemic — exposure that had consistently sickened other monkeys in the lab. But more than 28 days later all six were healthy, said Vincent Munster, the researcher who conducted the test.

“The rhesus macaque is pretty much the closest thing we have to humans,” Dr. Munster said, noting that scientists were still analyzing the result. He said he expected to share it with other scientists next week and then submit it to a peer-reviewed journal.

Immunity in monkeys is no guarantee that a vaccine will provide the same degree of protection for humans. A Chinese company that recently started a clinical trial with 144 participants, SinoVac, has also said that its vaccine was effective in rhesus macaques. But with dozens of efforts now underway to find a vaccine, the monkey results are the latest indication that Oxford’s accelerated venture is emerging as a bellwether.

“It is a very, very fast clinical program,” said Emilio Emini, a director of the vaccine program at the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which is providing financial support to many competing efforts.

More at link

https://apple.news/AgghmFWDJT9eRil2JgCnofA
Again this is the one to bet on.

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Originally Posted by DMC

This is the problem with reporting COVID numbers. Some countries don't want to be called out so they don't report accurately then someone like you uses the reported numbers as if they are factual when making value judgments. That totally ignores these lying governments, which is what they want. Good job propping up Xi.

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“maybe they are not reporting numbers”

this is a sad excuse to bring up when your mighty country is getting sodomized by a flu bug tbqh

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Originally Posted by DMC

This is the problem with reporting COVID numbers. Some countries don't want to be called out so they don't report accurately then someone like you uses the reported numbers as if they are factual when making value judgments. That totally ignores these lying governments, which is what they want. Good job propping up Xi.

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What's the evidence of this massive number manipulation? One could infer China given their dictatorial government, but everyone else?

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Originally Posted by ElNono

What's the evidence of this massive number manipulation? One could infer China given their dictatorial government, but everyone else?

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Thinking China and Russia

So remove China's population from the world total, remove North Korea, remove Russia, remove other non-reporting nations...

Then make a value judgment based on those metrics.

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Originally Posted by DMC

Thinking China and Russia

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And North Korea... sure... however, that doesn't mean the rest isn't reporting accurately (or at least as accurately as the US is)

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net...29&oe=5ECB3F51

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Looks like we might have a working vaccine by September...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/27/w...te-oxford.html

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As I've been saying, pay attention to how you can manufacture a billion doses.

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Originally Posted by vy65

https://www.promiseskept.com/achieve...omy-and-jobs/#

:lol

So many L's

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Think that will be updated to unemployment rate highest in 85 years?

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Originally Posted by DMC

Not a valid metric when the most populous countries by far aren't reporting accurately. Don't use bullshit numbers to prove a point.

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Can you answer the question without spouting conspiracies about South Korea?

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Originally Posted by DMC

Being in the pool while on a conference call is pretty sweet.

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or on the toilet tbh

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Originally Posted by picnroll

In the worldwide race for a vaccine to stop the coronavirus, the laboratory sprinting fastest is at Oxford University.

Most other teams have had to start with small clinical trials of a few hundred participants to demonstrate safety. But scientists at the university’s Jenner Institute had a running start on a vaccine, having proved in previous trials that similar inoculations — including one last year against an earlier coronavirus — were harmless to humans.

That has enabled them to leap ahead and schedule tests of their new coronavirus vaccine involving more than 6,000 people by the end of next month, hoping to show not only that it is safe, but also that it works.

The Oxford scientists now say that with an emergency approval from regulators, the first few million doses of their vaccine could be available by September — at least several months ahead of any of the other announced efforts — if it proves to be effective.

Now, they have received promising news suggesting that it might.

Scientists at the National Institutes of Health’s Rocky Mountain Laboratory in Montana last month inoculated six rhesus macaque monkeys with single doses of the Oxford vaccine. The animals were then exposed to heavy quantities of the virus that is causing the pandemic — exposure that had consistently sickened other monkeys in the lab. But more than 28 days later all six were healthy, said Vincent Munster, the researcher who conducted the test.

“The rhesus macaque is pretty much the closest thing we have to humans,” Dr. Munster said, noting that scientists were still analyzing the result. He said he expected to share it with other scientists next week and then submit it to a peer-reviewed journal.

Immunity in monkeys is no guarantee that a vaccine will provide the same degree of protection for humans. A Chinese company that recently started a clinical trial with 144 participants, SinoVac, has also said that its vaccine was effective in rhesus macaques. But with dozens of efforts now underway to find a vaccine, the monkey results are the latest indication that Oxford’s accelerated venture is emerging as a bellwether.

“It is a very, very fast clinical program,” said Emilio Emini, a director of the vaccine program at the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which is providing financial support to many competing efforts.

More at link

https://apple.news/AgghmFWDJT9eRil2JgCnofA
Again this is the one to bet on.

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Oh snap, zombie

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Originally Posted by DMC

Thinking China and Russia

So remove China's population from the world total, remove North Korea, remove Russia, remove other non-reporting nations...

Then make a value judgment based on those metrics.

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fine, that takes world population from 7.6 to 6 billion. US is still 5.5% of population with 1/3 of covid cases and 1/4 of covid deaths.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Looks like we might have a working vaccine by September...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/27/w...te-oxford.html

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Fantastic news

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

or on the toilet tbh

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Except remember to mute while you flush, lol. I can usually tell if someone is in the loo during the call, the echo is obvious and most people have tile.

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Originally Posted by Splits

fine, that takes world population from 7.6 to 6 billion. US is still 5.5% of population with 1/3 of reported covid cases and 1/4 of reported covid deaths.

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Fify for honesty

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Originally Posted by DMC

You credited profit motive for application but what do you credit for "best in the world" for the things you mentioned? Would that also be profit motive?

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This argument will never, ever be convincing to me because the American military is obviously the most advanced military apparatus the world has ever known, responsible for God knows how many technological innovations over the past 70 years, and it is a "public service." Sure, the contractors are driven by profit, but the military's application isn't, at least in theory. If China invaded us tomorrow, there wouldn't be any bean counters examining if defending against that invasion would be "profitable." They would just do it. On the other hand, insurance companies examine the potential profitability of their patients.

I think our healthcare system should be modeled after national defense. Despite misuse of our national defense by neocon assholes (Irag and staying in Afghanistan for far too long), it's still the best in the world, and by far.

This is why "small Government" conservatives also make zero sense to me. Pretty much all of them fetishize our military when it's the biggest government program there is. "Small government" conservatives are Democratic socialists and don't even know it :lol

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Originally Posted by Splits

As I've been saying, pay attention to how you can manufacture a billion doses.

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Sure, but if we can at least leap past the clinical trials, that's a great start

A Virginia preacher believed ‘God can heal anything.’

Then he caught coronavirus.

Landon Spradlin went to Mardi Gras to save souls.

He never made it home.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2020/04/27/pastor-landon-spradlin-coronavirus-death/

Mark up another "soul" for Trash