Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

I mean, besides Antarctica and remote islands, what countries managed to keep corona out?

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This is a straw man argument.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

I mean, besides Antarctica and remote islands, what countries managed to keep corona out?

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I'd rather be in SK or NZ's shoes right about now, wouldn't you?

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Originally Posted by vy65

I never said as much. I asked a simple question: can you defend Trump's coronavirus response? Certainly, looking at the results to date of said response is relevant evidence.

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:lol sure you did.

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Originally Posted by vy65

I've asked before, and I'll ask again: does anyone think that the administration has done a good job responding to the pandemic? Can anyone defend what DJT has done without complaining about Democrats/China/etc...?

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Ergo any reason you can just conveniently dismiss as whataboutism you've already preemptively discarded.

Has Cuomo done a good job? (you'll ignore this or point to one comment about "dithering" from weeks back)
What governor has done a good job with it?

Has anyone in the federal government done a good job with it?

Or do you think it's just Trump?

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But again, you'd rather parse irrelevancies rather than give a straightforward response.

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You call anything you disagree with "irrelevant". You don't really deserve an answer.

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Originally Posted by vy65

Sure I can. He got elected to do a hard job. Part of that job is making unpopular decisions. Having hurt feelings over impeachment doesn't excuse him from doing the job he was purportedly elected to do.

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What did Donald do to New York to cause 22,000 deaths?

Why doesn't California have 22000 deaths?

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Originally Posted by vy65

I'd love to hear the rationale why impeachment prevented the government from developing an accurate test, ramping up testing capacity, being truthful with the public about virus spread and severity, etc...

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Now Trump works at the CDC.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

This stupid motherfucker still doesn't know how tariffs work. Maybe he's being sarcastic.

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oh he knows damn well how they work - he knows the american taxpayer are the ones paying the tariffs


he just willfully and knowingly lies about it because the cult will just nod their head and will swallow his lies

he also lied when asked for his reaction to the bipartisan investigation that concluded russia helped him in the election and that it was NOT a hoax

he just lied thru his teeth that he knew nothing about it

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Originally Posted by DMC

:lol sure you did.

Ergo any reason you can just conveniently dismiss as whataboutism you've already preemptively discarded.

Has Cuomo done a good job? (you'll ignore this or point to one comment about "dithering" from weeks back)
What governor has done a good job with it?

Has anyone in the federal government done a good job with it?

Or do you think it's just Trump?

You call anything you disagree with "irrelevant". You don't really deserve an answer.

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Noticeably absent in this response is a defense of Trump's coronavirus response.

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Originally Posted by DMC

What did Donald do to New York to cause 22,000 deaths?

Why doesn't California have 22000 deaths?

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Moving goalposts. I thought this was about impeachment? Now it's a strawman about causing deaths -- something which I never said.

Again, what is the defense?

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Originally Posted by DMC

Now Trump works at the CDC.

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Nope, even better. He's its boss.

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Originally Posted by vy65

Noticeably absent in this response is a defense of Trump's coronavirus response.

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NY 22K deaths
Texas 600 deaths


Explain the disparity.

You won't because it will show things that you cannot pin on Trump.

You're another TDSer. Just move along.

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Originally Posted by DMC

NY 22K deaths
Texas 600 deaths


Explain the disparity.

You won't because it will show things that you cannot pin on Trump.

You're another TDSer. Just move along.

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Has Trump done anything wrong RE: this pandemic.

If yes, what?

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Originally Posted by vy65

Nope, even better. He's its boss.

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So he has responsibility for it and that does fall in his lap. He condemned the CDC for lack of testing in early March. Oh but that's just him passing the buck. He should have built the tests himself in his basement.

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Originally Posted by DMC

There are anecdotes but by and large we are doing what the Dr mentioned. Other countries are doing just the opposite - ignoring the COVID if they have pre-existing conditions. That's a double whammy.

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We only started what, maybe a couple weeks ago? A month maybe? If we're still finding cases of mislabeling right now, it means we've not been doing what the good doctor said we needed to do either.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Chirp?

Chirp or Chirp

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Originally Posted by ElNono

We only started what, maybe a couple weeks ago? A month maybe? If we're still finding cases of mislabeling right now, it means we've not been doing what the good doctor said we needed to do either.

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So you trust South Korea's numbers but not the United States?

She didn't say we needed to do it. She said we are doing it. Death certs are wrong like half the time.

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Originally Posted by DMC

Chirp.

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It's never been easier to stop you in your tracks tbh.

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Originally Posted by DMC

A private military would be 100x more efficient than the one we have. It's just not economically feasible and not a good idea based on transfer of power.

Example: I was stationed on a base that was slotted for closure. The base had prior received permission for a name change. The base closed, but the government still spent the money to change the name of the base on all documents, on the entrances, exits and buildings, and to paint a different color scheme. All this on an abandoned military base. Private companies wouldn't be able to do that.

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Define "efficient"? In that they spend less and would be cheaper? sure. On the other hand, you wouldn't have an F-35 or technological superiority. An F-35 would look like an updated F-16 design made up of plastic parts made in China, and sold first to the highest bidder, likely Saudi Arabia and the like.

One only has to look at Boeing to see how this thing works out in the private sector. An industry that has stagnated for decades, bets only on relatively sure things, and fucks up technology upgrades costing people lives. Do we need to put our national security in those hands?

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Originally Posted by DMC

So you trust South Korea's numbers but not the United States?

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I think they're likely being underreported to the same degree and not intentionally.

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Originally Posted by DMC

So you trust South Korea's numbers but not the United States?

She didn't say we needed to do it. She said we are doing it. Death certs are wrong like half the time.

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I trust both South Korea numbers and the United States numbers. I have no reason to believe either is intentionally fudging numbers to follow a narrative.

Which doesn't mean numbers are 100% accurate, there's obviously a margin of error, but not because of nefarious purposes.

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Originally Posted by DMC

A private military would be 100x more efficient than the one we have.

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Ass talking

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Originally Posted by vy65

I'd rather be in SK or NZ's shoes right about now, wouldn't you?

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Not New Zealand. They won't have any herd immunity for a long time.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

It's

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:lol

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Originally Posted by DMC

:lol

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:rollin

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Originally Posted by ElNono

I trust both South Korea numbers and the United States numbers. I have no reason to believe either is intentionally fudging numbers to follow a narrative.

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But you think COVID deaths are being recorded incorrectly, is that right?

If you think it's happening here, could it also be happening in South Korea?