Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

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Originally Posted by DMC

Original take as well. You're just behind Blake on meaningful content.

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I'd love to see your meaningful content rankings.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

We have to start opening things up, slowly, and checking the outcomes. The goal was to flatten the curve, not to get to zero cases, which is impractical.

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Well, Abbott said the reopening would start because “the COVID-19 infection rate has been on the decline over the past seventeen days” though it didn't really do that.

Let's just agree it should reopen because we say so and any number of deaths from here on out are heroic sacrifices.

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Originally Posted by DMC

Still ignoring the fact that NY is a dem controlled state. Guaranteed if a red state had 25K deaths and NY had 500 or so, several of you would be pointing out daily how the repug lead state governments killed people.

Why are you folks so afraid to address the NY situation honestly instead of going for the November agenda? It's not a good look for ya's.

Are you saying this is wrong:

2. No, the president cannot simply order state and local officials to change their policies

Here we have issues that fall under the headings of both federalism and separation of powers. Let’s start with federalism.

Most readers will appreciate this already, but it needs to be said: Our constitutional order has a federal structure, meaning that (a) federal powers are supreme, yes, but limited in scope and (b) the state governments are independent entities, not mere subordinate layers under and within the federal government (that is, the federal-state relationship is not similar to the way that counties and cities are subordinate layers under the state governments).

What follows from this? The federal government cannot commandeer the machinery of the state governments (or, by extension, of local governments). That is, the federal government cannot coerce the states into taking actions to suit federal policy preference. See, e.g., New York v. United States and Printz v. United States. And so, the federal government cannot compel state and local officials to promulgate different rules on social distancing and the like.

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You've glossed over the numerous times in the past I've said Di Blasio has fucked up the response -- and -- even where I said he was godawful in the fucking post you're quoting -- all to push a narrative. There's no point in quoting me if you're not even going to bother responding to what I've said. Again, posters besides me have repeatedly "addressed" the NY situation -- why can't you address the Trump situation?

Your own post responds to your half-assed attempt to raise the federal issue. Also, commandeering is irrelevant when the USFG could use its interstate commerce power and/or use commerce clause power to condition funds on the states doing what they say.

But that's got nothing to do with the question you want nothing to do with: What does Di Blasio being godawful have to do with Trump?

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This last observation raises yet another point: Professor Dorf’s bottom line might be correct—the federal government has broad powers here to impose a national lockdown—but the Commerce Clause power needn’t and shouldn’t be the only authority to look at or rely on. Today’s coronavirus is from all indications a natural phenomenon, but what if another super-virus—the next one—is introduced in America intentionally as a form of biological warfare? Recent headlines about the U.S. military sheltering in place remind us all that military preparedness might depend in the twenty-first century on creating—even by mandate—herd immunity, just as other forms of military preparedness throughout American history have required compulsion (e.g., selective service conscription).

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DMC gonna run away from this shit like he always does. He read an article once about anti-commandeering doctrines, so apparently now he's a consitutional scholar.

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The federal government derives its authority for isolation and quarantine from the Commerce Clause of the U.S. Constitution.

Under section 361 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S. Code § 264), the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services is authorized to take measures to prevent the entry and spread of communicable diseases from foreign countries into the United States and between states.

The authority for carrying out these functions on a daily basis has been delegated to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

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Oh, look, there's even a guy on Fox News shitting on DMC:

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The "Life, Liberty & Levin" host explained that the Commerce Clause of the Constitution gives Congress the power to "regulate commerce ... among the several States" and added that the New Deal era saw Supreme Court rulings that further strengthened the federal executive's authority over the states.

"The debate about federalism was a fake debate and I've given this a lot of thought," Levin said. "This has nothing to do with federalism. The president has more power to order governors, if he chooses, to open up their economies than people think.

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Originally Posted by vy65

Oh, look, there's even a guy on Fox News shitting on DMC:

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I mean he could have at the very least passed along the warnings he was gifted saying how badly we could be fucked, but that kind of surveillance and intel collection is up to mayors and county judges, right?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

I mean he could have at the very least passed along the warnings he was gifted saying how badly we could be fucked, but that kind of surveillance and intel collection is up to mayors and county judges, right?

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Would have interfered with his heavy regimen of Fox & Friends and tweeting tbh

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Originally Posted by vy65

Would have interfered with his heavy regimen of Fox & Friends and tweeting tbh

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DMC says he was rendered completely impotent by impeachment otherwise the cases would've quickly gone from 15 to 0.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

DMC says he was rendered completely impotent by impeachment otherwise the cases would've quickly gone from 15 to 0.

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I've found that the best thing to do when you've been accused of breaking your oath of office is to break your oath some more.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Well, Abbott said the reopening would start because “the COVID-19 infection rate has been on the decline over the past seventeen days” though it didn't really do that.

Let's just agree it should reopen because we say so and any number of deaths from here on out are heroic sacrifices.

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Fine

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Originally Posted by ducks

60 million died in world last year where is your outrage !

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Oh no there's goes Tokyo here comes Godzilla

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Fine

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I knew you'd see things my way.

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Originally Posted by vy65

I've found that the best thing to do when you've been accused of breaking your oath of office is to break your oath some more.

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It's beyond insane that that strategy is working

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Originally Posted by vy65

I've found that the best thing to do when you've been accused of breaking your oath of office is to break your oath some more.

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Originally Posted by Blake

It's beyond insane that that strategy is working

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When you've got people like Darrin, SnakeBoy and DMC doing backflips in your name for no actual reason, why not?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Well, Abbott said the reopening would start because “the COVID-19 infection rate has been on the decline over the past seventeen days” though it didn't really do that.

Let's just agree it should reopen because we say so and any number of deaths from here on out are heroic sacrifices.

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Heroic sacrifices for the essential workers, casualties of was for the nursing home grandmas

We've had more deaths from shootings, etc. here lately than corona.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

When you've got people like Darrin, SnakeBoy and DMC doing backflips in your name for no actual reason, why not?

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Hey now, DMC is a constitutional scholar now because he's googled an incorrect federalism narrative ...

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

When you've got people like Darrin, SnakeBoy and DMC doing backflips in your name for no actual reason, why not?

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Chump is #SafeAtWendysDrivethru

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Originally Posted by Blake

Heroic sacrifices for the essential workers, casualties of war for the nursing home grandmas

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Both will be our new meat supply for Bill Miller.

What are the plans of team #LockdownUntilVaccine?

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Chump is #SafeAtWendysDrivethru

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You're wearing a mask too, Darrin. Not sure what you think this accomplishes.

Oh right, you think it deflects from your defending Trump.

:lol

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

What are the plans of team #LockdownUntilVaccine?

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We'll be #LaughingAtDarrin'sDipshitStrawManAgain

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

You're wearing a mask too, Darrin. Not sure what you think this accomplishes.

Oh right, you think it deflects from your defending Trump.

:lol

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If this makes you feel better, fine

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

If this makes you feel better, fine

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Why else did you bring it up out of the blue, Darrin?