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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy
216 newly reported Florida coronavirus deaths is second daily record in a row--7-29
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coro...tsu-story.html
smh
It takes a special kind of stupid to have your political views interfere with the understanding that "deadly disease will kill people"
Like the deadly disease will
only kill people when it is convenient for your worldview, or magically
not spread because of your worldview.
That is some factless, flawed reasoning, IMO.
Seriously,
TSA what did you
think was going to happen when states reopened and people stopped taking basic precautions against a communicable disease?
Problem with my dude TSA is he follows bad faith truthers like Justin Hart and Alex Berenson who are constantly spamming misinfo and bad statistics. Example. Here's Hart spiking the football about the lower deaths in July in FL, then the lag caught up.
https://i.imgur.com/YPlIrCz.png
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
midnightpulp
Problem with my dude
TSA is he follows bad faith truthers like Justin Hart and Alex Berenson who are constantly spamming misinfo and bad statistics. Example. Here's Hart spiking the football about the lower deaths in July in FL, then the lag caught up.
https://i.imgur.com/YPlIrCz.png
Am I constantly spamming misinfo from either of the above? No. I read tons of stuff daily from both sides that is misinfo or bad information. I try to weed that shit out and share what I've found.
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
Am I constantly spamming misinfo from either of the above? No. I read tons of stuff daily from both sides that is misinfo or bad information. I try to weed that shit out and share what I've found.
I didn't accuse you of that, I'm just calling out these bad faith actors who are blatantly being misleading in service of an agenda or brand recognition (Berenson).
I know the "other side" can have an agenda, too, but I still feel that side is acting in better faith. Shutdowns are encouraged not to "hurt the economy and Trump," but because they work and actually will mitigate the economic damage on the back end. Where I do think the "other side" is being a bit irrational is with schools for 10 and under age groups. Europe has shown you can reopen schools with little consequence (so far). But I still feel more study needs to be done on the "long haul" effect of Covid infections. Just because 10 year olds don't wind up in the ICU and don't die as much as they do from the flu, doesn't mean Covid isn't silently doing some kind of damage that could lead to a chronic illness like asthma.
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy
216 newly reported Florida coronavirus deaths is second daily record in a row--7-29
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coro...tsu-story.html
smh
It takes a special kind of stupid to have your political views interfere with the understanding that "deadly disease will kill people"
Like the deadly disease will
only kill people when it is convenient for your worldview, or magically
not spread because of your worldview.
That is some factless, flawed reasoning, IMO.
Seriously,
TSA what did you
think was going to happen when states reopened and people stopped taking basic precautions against a communicable disease?
You've posted this same shit like 5 times and I've ignored it but for the sake of saving the forum from you spamming it over and over again I'll address it. Every quote you posted of mine is meaningless without the context of the conversation. My comment was referring to the inevitable blood bath that was predicted for Florida/Georgia 3 weeks prior. We were at 3 weeks from that claim that day and there was no bloodbath. Within that same conversation I say it's not over for anyone and acknowledge spikes can still occur.
You knew all of this since you obviously went back and found the quotes and were a part of the conversation yet you decided to purposely leave out the other quotes giving it context because you are a pathetic and disingenuous piece of shit.
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
midnightpulp
I didn't accuse you of that, I'm just calling out these bad faith actors who are blatantly being misleading in service of an agenda or brand recognition (Berenson).
I know the "other side" can have an agenda, too, but I still feel that side is acting in better faith. Shutdowns are encouraged not to "hurt the economy and Trump," but because they work and actually will mitigate the economic damage on the back end. Where I do think the "other side" is being a bit irrational is with schools for 10 and under age groups. Europe has shown you can reopen schools with little consequence (so far). But I still feel more study needs to be done on the "long haul" effect of Covid infections. Just because 10 year olds don't wind up in the ICU and don't die as much as they do from the flu, doesn't mean Covid isn't silently doing some kind of damage that could lead to a chronic illness like asthma.
If I'm not spamming misinfo from either than what is the problem?
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
You've posted this same shit like 5 times and I've ignored it but for the sake of saving the forum from you spamming it over and over again I'll address it. Every quote you posted of mine is meaningless without the context of the conversation. My comment was referring to the inevitable blood bath that was predicted for Florida/Georgia 3 weeks prior. We were at 3 weeks from that claim that day and there was no bloodbath. Within that same conversation I say it's not over for anyone and acknowledge spikes can still occur.
You knew all of this since you obviously went back and found the quotes and were a part of the conversation yet you decided to purposely leave out the other quotes giving it context because you are a pathetic and disingenuous piece of shit.
he's said this for every state that the media has hyped since March. Its always going to happen but never does.
Its because he thinks he understands math but he does not.
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
If I'm not spamming misinfo from either than what is the problem?
I felt you endorsed what people like Hart were doing when you posted one of his infographs about the 120 reported deaths in Florida not "being accurate" and just media hype, while Hart was presenting the facts as they were. Your quote:
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They are even more dishonest since they have the actual data and are misrepresenting it by omitting the backlog. You are saying Hart is being more dishonest based on speculation into the future.
To reiterate, Hart is being more dishonest, since we can predict with pretty good certainty how the data will catch up. This means when the media reported 120 deaths, it's accurate with regard to where a region is trending, even if the majority of those deaths are backlog at that time. Eventually, that particular date will see deaths within that range. Example FL reported 120 deaths on 7/9, prompting that infograph from Hart saying, "Well, yeah they reported 120 deaths, but how many actually died today." At the time of Hart's post, it was 9 reported deaths on 7/9. See my graph above, and you'll see deaths on 7/9 are now at 101 and counting.
That's all I'm trying to illuminate. The "Team Reality" crowd are very bad faith actors.
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
midnightpulp
I felt you endorsed what people like Hart were doing when you posted one of his infographs about the 120 reported deaths in Florida not "being accurate" and just media hype, while Hart was presenting the facts as they were. Your quote:
To reiterate, Hart is being more dishonest, since we can predict with pretty good certainty how the data will catch up. This means when the media reported 120 deaths, it's accurate with regard to where a region is trending, even if the majority of those deaths are backlog at that time. Eventually, that particular date will see deaths within that range. Example FL reported 120 deaths on 7/9, prompting that infograph from Hart saying, "Well, yeah they reported 120 deaths, but how many actually died today." At the time of Hart's post, it was 9 reported deaths on 7/9. See my graph above, and you'll see deaths on 7/9 are now at 101 and counting.
That's all I'm trying to illuminate. The "Team Reality" crowd are very bad faith actors.
The 120 deaths on that day weren't "accurate". And again, if I'm not spamming misinfo from either than what is the problem?
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
midnightpulp
I felt you endorsed what people like Hart were doing when you posted one of his infographs about the 120 reported deaths in Florida not "being accurate" and just media hype, while Hart was presenting the facts as they were. Your quote:
To reiterate, Hart is being more dishonest, since we can predict with pretty good certainty how the data will catch up. This means when the media reported 120 deaths, it's accurate with regard to where a region is trending, even if the majority of those deaths are backlog at that time. Eventually, that particular date will see deaths within that range. Example FL reported 120 deaths on 7/9, prompting that infograph from Hart saying, "Well, yeah they reported 120 deaths, but how many actually died today." At the time of Hart's post, it was 9 reported deaths on 7/9. See my graph above, and you'll see deaths on 7/9 are now at 101 and counting.
That's all I'm trying to illuminate. The "Team Reality" crowd are very bad faith actors.
This is completely incorrect. How is your logic and math this bad?
Refund for you
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
Chris
Lol James Woods
Lol Breaking 911
Lol "socialized medicine"
I'm pretty sure there's another lol I'm missing
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
Am I constantly spamming misinfo from either of the above? No. I read tons of stuff daily from both sides that is misinfo or bad information. I try to weed that shit out and share what I've found.
Gummi!
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
TimDunkem
Who the fuck is Gummi?
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Originally Posted by
TSA
gummi can properly create a graph unlike whoever made the graph you posted. Post the source data from the graph you posted.
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
TimDunkem
Who the fuck is Gummi?
:lol
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
TimDunkem
Who the fuck is Gummi?
:lol
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
Blake
Gummi!
Still butthurt! :lmao
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
TimDunkem
Who the fuck is Gummi?
someone on twitter I reposted. Blake can't refute what was posted but finds it hilarious since they don't go by their real name and he doesn't know who gummi actually is. Somehow he doesn't find the handles we go by on Spurstalk as hilarious.
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
someone on twitter I reposted. Blake can't refute what was posted but finds it hilarious since they don't go by their real name and he doesn't know who gummi actually is. Somehow he doesn't find the handles we go by on Spurstalk as hilarious.
Lol it was easy to refute what you posted. All I had to do was lookup a legitimate source.
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
Chris
:lmao how is that socialized medicine?
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
spurraider21
:lmao how is that socialized medicine?
Basically anything they don't like is tyranny and/or socialism
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
The 120 deaths on that day weren't "accurate". And again, if I'm not spamming misinfo from either than what is the problem?
Do you think saying only 9 died today is "accurate" considering how the lag works? He knows what he's doing.
Also, I don't have a problem with you retweeting, I'm just trying to illustrate the sneaky tricks they use to downplay or force reopening. Why is this a concern? Because I'm sure some of Hart's tripe found its way on the screens of policy makers. This tweet sums it up.
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
spurraider21
:lmao how is that socialized medicine?
How is it not?
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
midnightpulp
Do you think saying only 9 died today is "accurate" considering how the lag works? He knows what he's doing.
Also, I don't have a problem with you spamming, I'm just trying to illustrate the sneaky tricks they use to downplay or force reopening. Why is this a concern? Because I'm sure some of Hart's tripe found its way on the screens of policy makers. This tweet sums it up.
No its not. The difference is no one is saying that there aren't more deaths today. The point is you are using the 120 to make to correlations that are incorrect.
1. That the virus is spreading
2. That case increase is increasing fatalities.
Both of these are proven incorrect by using more than one inaccurate raw number stat.
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
TSA
someone on twitter I reposted. Blake can't refute what was posted but finds it hilarious since they don't go by their real name and he doesn't know who gummi actually is. Somehow he doesn't find the handles we go by on Spurstalk as hilarious.
Just for kicks I checked his latest tweets and there was this:
What's this about tbh?
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Re: Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
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Originally Posted by
tholdren
How is it not?
because it doesn't do anything to turn a private sector business into one that is publicly or collectively owned
it's a regulation. like everything else in the FDA. that's not socialism. what's next, are speed limits socialist?
