Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

SHOITHOLE Florida told hospital to divert vaccines to wealthy community as appointments were canceled for general public

https://www.rawstory.com/media-libra...200&height=645

A Florida hospital diverted vaccines from the general public to an ultra-wealthy community where its CEO and Republican donors lived.

Some of the beneficiaries had donated to the governor's political action committee, which has garnered almost $4 million, and

Baptist Health Systems president and CEO Brian Keeley and his wife own a home in Ocean Reef.

have asked the FBI to investigate the delivery of doses to wealthy communities that tend to back DeSantis.

https://www.rawstory.com/florida-governor-ron-desantis

https://floridapolitics.com/archives...on-involvement

BigTobacco bribes politicians to keep cigarettes off DEA schedule. Let FreeDumb ring! ... (ring up the death toll)

Tobacco killed 500,000 Americans in 2020

https://www.salon.com/2021/03/06/tob...akers_partner/

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Originally Posted by SnakeBoy

What are you worried about? Variants?

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There seems to be empirical, contemporaneous support for concern about COVID-19 variants. Until herd immunity is reached, the concern is a reasonable one, don't you think?

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Europe recorded 1 million new COVID-19 cases last week, an increase of 9% from the previous week and a reversal that ended a six-week decline in new infections, WHO said Thursday.

“The spread of the variants is driving the increase, but not only,” said Dr. Hans Kluge, WHO regional director for Europe, citing “also the opening of society, when it is not done in a safe and a controlled manner.”

The variant first found in the U.K. is spreading significantly in 27 European countries monitored by WHO and is dominant in at least 10 countries: Britain, Denmark, Italy, Ireland, Germany, France, the Netherlands, Israel, Spain and Portugal.

It is up to 50% more transmissible than the virus that surged last spring and again in the fall, making it more adept at thwarting measures that were previously effective, WHO experts warned.

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https://apnews.com/article/europe-en...94884a4b8049e4

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

There seems to be empirical, contemporaneous support for concern about COVID-19 variants. Until herd immunity is reached, the concern is a reasonable one, don't you think?


https://apnews.com/article/europe-en...94884a4b8049e4

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Not for the US

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

There seems to be empirical, contemporaneous support for concern about COVID-19 variants. Until herd immunity is reached, the concern is a reasonable one, don't you think?


https://apnews.com/article/europe-en...94884a4b8049e4

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/video...rus-wave-video

Manaus: Brazil's city on the Amazon river buckles under second Covid wave

Brazil thought they had achieved herd immunity.

They were mistaken.

Opening up too soon will have predictable consequences.

People with their heads really far up their asses will find some new excuse why the fascist party really isn't to blame, or will attempt more "but Cuomo" bullshit when the bodies start stacking up.

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Not for the US
https://assets.rebelmouse.io/eyJhbGc....jpg?width=980

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:lol

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Not for the US

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Why not?

the absence of any focus on ventilation is bothersome, it's a respiratory pandemic.

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For the purposes of this guidance, people are considered fully vaccinated for COVID-19 ≥2 weeks after they have received the second dose in a 2-dose series (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna), or ≥2 weeks after they have received a single-dose vaccine (Johnson and Johnson [J&J]/Janssen ).†
The following recommendations apply to non-healthcare settings.

Fully vaccinated people can:

• Visit with other fully vaccinated people indoors without wearing masks or physical distancing
• Visit with unvaccinated people from a single household who are at low risk for severe COVID-19 disease indoors without wearing masks or physical distancing
• Refrain from quarantine and testing following a known exposure if asymptomatic

For now, fully vaccinated people should continue to:

• Take precautions in public like wearing a well-fitted mask and physical distancing
• Wear masks, practice physical distancing, and adhere to other prevention measures when visiting with unvaccinated people who are at increased risk for severe COVID-19 disease or who have an unvaccinated household member who is at increased risk for severe COVID-19 disease
• Wear masks, maintain physical distance, and practice other prevention measures when visiting with unvaccinated people from multiple households
• Avoid medium- and large-sized in-person gatherings
• Get tested if experiencing COVID-19 symptoms
• Follow guidance issued by individual employers
• Follow CDC and health department travel requirements and recommendations

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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...-guidance.html

Follow guidance issued by individual employers. :lol "get your ass to work!" -individual employer

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Follow guidance issued by individual employers. :lol "get your ass to work!" -individual employer

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With a mask at distance.

oh noes, I, I, cant breaf...

Labor force participation for women has slipped to late 1980s levels. IMO women (or anyone else, for that matter) who had to abandon their jobs to care for children and loved ones at home should be paid for it.

(The child subsidies in the COVID bill will help to defray some of the lost income, but not the lost productivity.)

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Nearly 3 million American women have left the labor force over the past year in a coronavirus-induced exodus that reflects persistent pay inequality, undervalued work and antiquated notions of caregiving.


Before the pandemic, women consisted more than 50% of the country's workforce, underlining their importance to the economy. But that number has dropped sharply as many women, particularly mothers of young children, have been furloughed or laid off. Many others have had to choose between showing up at front-line jobs or caring for their children who, with daycare centers closed and school underway remotely, would otherwise be left without supervision.


Indeed, women remain 2.8 percentage points below their November 2019 labor force participation rate, according to the Minneapolis Fed. The government's latest employment data, released Friday, shows that women's participation in the labor force declined in January, while men's stayed flat.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-c...n-labor-force/

More emphasis on ventilation and filtration would be opportune to protect patrons and staff alike, now that states have started to remove restrictions from businesses.

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While it is still important to prevent person-to-person transmission via droplet spray, there is now a large body of scientific evidence that particles much smaller than droplets can also spread the virus. These tiny particles, called aerosols, are emitted by infected people during breathing, talking and singing, and waft away in plumes of exhaled breath. The particles are so small they stay aloft for minutes to hours and can be carried distances by air currents.


In enclosed indoor spaces, these particles can accumulate, particularly if the ventilation is poor and the air is not filtered. There are now numerous studies of people infected with Covid-19 due to small particle inhalation, at distances far greater than the few feet that droplets travel.

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https://www.politico.com/news/agenda...ilation-474017

Tempted to spend $200 on this test

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Tempted to spend $200 on this test

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but Bill Gates!

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Why not?

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Vaccines is the short answer

Lot's to unpack for the long answer. "Herd immunity", "more transmissible", and what you believe the endgame is or should be. Lot's of words required to discuss those things. Start the conversation if you want.

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Meh

I remember when americal politicians and finance moguls were high fiving themselves because china was facing a crippling pandemic. At the same time, these idiots were saying theres nothing to worry about as we are the most prepared country in the world vs a potential pandemic :lmao

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Originally Posted by SnakeBoy

Vaccines is the short answer

Lot's to unpack for the long answer. "Herd immunity", "more transmissible", and what you believe the endgame is or should be. Lot's of words required to discuss those things. Start the conversation if you want.

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Vaccines make herd immunity possible, but it’s unclear why you think there’s no cause for concern that variants will cause another spike before we get there. It’s one thing to be personally unconcerned, quite another to suggest that there is not a rational basis for concern.

Which prong of the fork is closer to your position and why?

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Meh

I remember when americal politicians and finance moguls were high fiving themselves because china was facing a crippling pandemic. At the same time, these idiots were saying theres nothing to worry about as we are the most prepared country in the world vs a potential pandemic :lmao

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China is in a tough situation. The West is on the verge of opening up, China can't possibly vaccinate enough of their population this year to open up to the world. By the time they are done with coronavirus they will have lost 2+ years of time towards building internal markets. Which means over the coming years as Mexico replaces them as the low cost manufacturing hub of the United States their economy will come crashing down. That's why they want everybody to stay locked down until the whole world is vaccinated. They are just trying to buy time in hopes that they can figure something out to save their failing system.

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Originally Posted by SnakeBoy

China is in a tough situation. The West is on the verge of opening up, China can't possibly vaccinate enough of their population this year to open up to the world. By the time they are done with coronavirus they will have lost 2+ years of time towards building internal markets. Which means over the coming years as Mexico replaces them as the low cost manufacturing hub of the United States their economy will come crashing down. That's why they want everybody to stay locked down until the whole world is vaccinated. They are just trying to buy time in hopes that they can figure something out to save their failing system.

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Geostrategery and quite a bold prediction.

What signs do you see that China is verging on collapse?

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China is in a tough situation. The West is on the verge of opening up, China can't possibly vaccinate enough of their population this year to open up to the world. By the time they are done with coronavirus they will have lost 2+ years of time towards building internal markets. Which means over the coming years as Mexico replaces them as the low cost manufacturing hub of the United States their economy will come crashing down. That's why they want everybody to stay locked down until the whole world is vaccinated. They are just trying to buy time in hopes that they can figure something out to save their failing system.

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:lmao ok

Americans also said china was gonna collapse anytime last February :lmao

Sounds like Snake Boy is a dove on COVID for reasons of economic dominance. For some reason he thinks the US has the edge on China right now, and that pressing that advantage trumps any concern about risks that COVID still poses to human health and the economy in the US.

Almost as if he thinks the real problem is disease mitigation, and not the disease.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

Sounds like Snake Boy is a dove on COVID for reasons of economic dominance. For some reason he thinks the US has the edge on China right now, and that pressing that advantage trumps any concern about risks that COVID still poses to human health and the economy in the US.

Almost as if he thinks the real problem is disease mitigation, and not the disease.

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:lmao he probably reads the Federalist or some bullshit like that :lol

Americans fail to understand that unlike fat americans chinese will eat shoes if need be for a few years if they encounter a depression. Plus their economy wqs spectacular last year. And to think mexico will replace them :lmao

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:lmao he probably reads the Federalist or some bullshit like that :lol

Americans fail to understand that unlike fat americans chinese will eat shoes if need be for a few years if they encounter a depression. Plus their economy wqs spectacular last year. And to think mexico will replace them

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All sounds very improbable to me, I'd like to hear more about what convinced Snake Boy that China is teetering on the brink of failure.