"Muh Sweden."

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Tore it apart lololol with your scatterplot. LolokIkokolokl then you say what data can and can't be inclided, yet you can't define your own terms used.



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Doesn't understand generalization or distribution




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Worse than RandomGuy

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you dont even uderstand how your data you use is collected.




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Then you say correlation


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Lolololol

Midnightpulp

0 math classes taken

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oh look, another meltdown :lol

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Originally Posted by ElNono

oh look, another meltdown :lol

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El nono you're better than this. Show us all the data

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Originally Posted by tholdren

El nono you're better than this. Show us all the data

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show us the math or f:lolldren

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Originally Posted by ElNono

oh look, another meltdown :lol

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Originally Posted by ElNono

show us the math or f:lolldren

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:lol

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Originally Posted by ElNono

show us the math or f:lolldren

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After you el nono

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Originally Posted by tholdren

After you el nono

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:lmao you're terrified

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After you el nono

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Already told you my sources. Now show your math.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Already told you my sources. Now show your math.

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nope

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nope

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:lmao you're afraid of math and science!

f:lolldren

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nope

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:lol gossip. f:lolldren

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strange they say no scientific proof but fauci says scientific..... who do you believe.

The guy who has lied to the public multiple times or the govt who has not....?

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You?

multiple times does not convey the actual frequency of bullshit from f:loldr:loln

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Originally Posted by midnightpulp

I don't buy any of his arguments. Z-scores are misleading because he wants them to be. Not a very compelling argument. I get what he's trying to argue, but what is the scientific evidence of "why" countries with weaker flu seasons had more severe outbreaks? It's another one of those spurious correlations like the warm weather theory in April. It sure seemed like hotter climates weren't experiencing outbreaks. Now that theory has gone up in smoke.

And the knockdown argument I have against his central point is that IF the flu theory is correct and a country/region with a prior light flu season is a just a tinderbox waiting to ignite, then that actually justifies more measures, not fewer. And I know this guy's MO. Lockdown skeptic.

And with regard to the US, our 2019 flu season wasn't particularly light. About average.

https://blogs.sas.com/content/graphi...e-flu-in-2019/

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SMH anonymous twitter

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SMH anonymous twitter

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Newsweek just did a great piece on sweden success.

Lol midnightpulp

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Newsweek

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Lol all ChumpDumper can do

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Lol all ChumpDumper can do

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At this point, all that's left is to laugh at you.

You're wrong about everything and I made you afraid of science and math.

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At this point, all that's left is to laugh at you.

You're wrong about everything and I made you afraid of science and math.

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? Science has proven me correct. Every time. Actually it's math, but o well.

Enjoy your goggles.

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? Science has proven me correct.

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Wrong. It's proved you wrong every time.

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Actually it's math

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:lmao I made you terrified of math.

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It makes intuitive sense that more vulnerable people you have in a population, the more likely it is to suffer more deaths from just about anything. However, the problem with his Nordic country comparison is that he didn't adjust for population (per capita). Let's see how these figures look when they're adjusted.

Sweden (most populated, so we'll have to adjust the other countries to them): ~9.1K below average over prior 71 weeks.

Norway: ~2700 below avg prior. Adj: ~5K

Denmark: ~1700 below avg prior: Adj: ~3K

Finland: ~2300 below avg prior: Adj: ~4K

So even after adjusting, Sweden still has a greater pool of vulnerable people. But reading through his examination, of course he arrives at the conclusion that how severe a country's death toll would be has more to do with this "tinder theory" than government response.

So let's look at the relative death toll performance and compare it to the vulnerable population differences.

Norway: 1.82x vulnerable pool size, 12x fewer deaths per million.

Denmak: 3x vps, 5.3x fewer dpm.

Finland: 2.5x vps, 9.6x fewer dpm.

So you can see each country significantly (Denmark aside) outperformed their vulnerable pool size relative to Sweden in controlling their death rate. So the conclusion is that the "tinder box" doesn't fully explain the relative differences in death rate among these countries. Maybe 10-15 percent of it, but my intuition tells me the primary difference among these countries is the stringency of government response.

Another issue I have with his theory. He says:

"This group would likely fall victim to the next "normal" flu season.

https://i.imgur.com/4OMC31D.png

Sweden had yet another normal flu season (the Swedish version of the Department of Health classified the 2018-19 flu season as one of moderate intensity), and the deaths didn't start piling until Covid entered the fray. Did Sweden just get lucky and have two mild flu seasons in a row? Maybe. But there's just too many variables at play to credit the tinder box theory with the differing death tolls.

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Another issue I have with his theory. He says:

"This group would likely fall victim to the next "normal" flu season.

https://i.imgur.com/4OMC31D.png

Sweden had yet another normal flu season (the Swedish version of the Department of Health classified the 2018-19 flu season as one of moderate intensity), and the deaths didn't start piling until Covid entered the fray. Did Sweden just get lucky and have two mild flu seasons in a row? Maybe. But there's just too many variables at play to credit the tinder box theory with the differing death tolls.

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you low level math

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math

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:lol

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I notice any time you are asked specifics you just emoji. Why?