Joe Biden was the right pick for Democrats

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Originally Posted by Will Hunting

Nothing, but if we’re in agreement that it’s a superficial and stupid way to determine who to vote for, then I’m not sure what we’re arguing about.

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:lol I wasn't arguing anything.

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Originally Posted by Spurminator

I said strategically speaking. I don't personally care about the demographics of the VP choice, except insofar as it helps ensure a victory.

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Understood

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Originally Posted by David Hogg

It’s all they have.

VOTE FOR CENTRIST DEMOCRATS OR EVERYONE WILL DIE

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VOTE FOR HILLARY - SHE MIGHT OUTSOURCE YOUR JOB TO INDIA BUT AT LEAST SHE DIDNT SAY GRAB EM BY THE PUSSY!!!!

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Originally Posted by Will Hunting

Yeah that’s what amazing, they didn’t just vote Biden over Bernie, black people genuinely despise Bernie and don’t even know why, they just see spear chucking Donna Brazile and Uncle Clyburn say they should so reflexively they do.

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This is an insane generalization.

Sure some black people will look to their elected leaders to do whatever they tell them to do but tyo just blanketely say all black folks are mindless drones pretty disrespectfull.

If you want to say all of black South Carolinians are dumbfucks who voted according to uncle Clyburn wishes, that's one thing. But to apply it country wide is asinine.

https://apps.npr.org/liveblogs/20200229-south-carolina/

Scroll down to the by the numbers stat. They're astounding. Biden won the white vote as well. The 30 and above age etc.

Sanders even lost the ideology battle.

Very liberal (20%): Biden 39%, Sanders 30%, Warren 16%, Steyer 10%

That's nuts.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

I don't care... If the Dem lose, they need to take a serious look in the mirror, you included. You can only keep pushing the progressives out of your party for so long.

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Sure. At the same time, Sanders types are a no go.

I'm perfectly fine with Warren. At least she showed some flexibility. Whether to her detrement or not, that is what you have to do to win primaries.

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Originally Posted by Reck

This is an insane generalization.

Sure some black people will look to their elected leaders to do whatever they tell them to do but tyo just blanketely say all black folks are mindless drones pretty disrespectfull.

If you want to say all of black South Carolinians are dumbfucks who voted according to uncle Clyburn wishes, that's one thing. But to apply it country wide is asinine.

https://apps.npr.org/liveblogs/20200229-south-carolina/

Scroll down to the by the numbers stat. They're astounding. Biden won the white vote as well. The 30 and above age etc.

Sanders even lost the ideology battle.

Very liberal (20%): Biden 39%, Sanders 30%, Warren 16%, Steyer 10%

That's nuts.

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The fact he won among the “very liberal” in South Carolina proves my point. Black people who clearly align more with Bernie ideologically than they do Biden still voted for Biden. They’re not looking at the actual issues, they’re voting off what Massa Clyburn and pastors like Creflo Dollar tell them to do.

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Originally Posted by Will Hunting

The fact he won among the “very liberal” in South Carolina proves my point. Black people who clearly align more with Bernie ideologically than they do Biden still voted for Biden. They’re not looking at the actual issues, they’re voting off what Massa Clyburn and pastors like Creflo Dollar tell them to do.

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Maybe all those people thought he's got a better chance than the self-proclaimed socialist.

Trump gets re-elected. RBG forced to retire due to old age. 6-3

Breyer follows a couple of years later. 7-2.

These are people in their 80s. One wrong body twist and they're in the morgue. It's not fear, it's reality.

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Originally Posted by Reck

Trump gets re-elected. RBG forced to retire due to old age. 6-3

Breyer follows a couple of years later. 7-2.

These are people in their 80s. One wrong body twist and they're in the morgue. It's not fear, it's reality.

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To me arguing that four more years of Trump is fine is saying everything is fine now.

I would disagree with that.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Maybe all those people thought he's got a better chance than the self-proclaimed socialist.

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I'm sure that argument getting parroted by CNN/MSNBC despite the fact it didn't work 4 years earlier had a lot to do with people believing it.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

To me arguing that four more years of Trump is fine is saying everything is fine now.

I would disagree with that.

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The funny and ironic thing for me is that back in 2016-2017 once I accepted Trump would be the president and you still have people overreacting to him saying how he's a dictator and so on I would scuff and laugh at that because I thought our constitution were solid enough to withstand Trump's assault. I was wrong.

Trump has defied the law in this country and is on the verge of saying fuck it with the constitution. I wonder if he does get re-elected and he ends up appointing 2-3 more SCOTUSES that people saying my post is irrational and fearful would see it differently then.

FWIW, I'm voting for Biden largely because I have something to lose if the Republicans completely crater the economy like they did in 2008 or 1929. If I was a working class schmuck making $30,000 a year who declared bankruptcy last year because of overwhelming medical bills, I doubt the "vote for Biden because he's slightly better than Trump!" would really resonate with me.

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Originally Posted by Will Hunting

I'm sure that argument getting parroted by CNN/MSNBC despite the fact it didn't work 4 years earlier had a lot to do with people believing it.

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Do you like how things are going under Trump?

I don't.

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Originally Posted by Reck

The funny and ironic thing for me is that back in 2016-2017 once I accepted Trump would be the president and you still have people overreacting to him saying how he's a dictator and so on I would scuff and laugh at that because I thought our constitution were solid enough to withstand Trump's assault. I was wrong.

Trump has defied the law in this country and is on the verge of saying fuck it with the constitution. I wonder if he does get re-elected and he ends up appointing 2-3 more SCOTUSES that people saying my post is irrational and fearful would see it differently then.

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You didn't stop at 7-2, you mentioned 8-1 as 9-0 as possibilities, which I said was irrational. That's what I was commenting on.

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Originally Posted by Reck

The funny and ironic thing for me is that back in 2016-2017 once I accepted Trump would be the president and you still have people overreacting to him saying how he's a dictator and so on I would scuff and laugh at that because I thought our constitution were solid enough to withstand Trump's assault. I was wrong.

Trump has defied the law in this country and is on the verge of saying fuck it with the constitution. I wonder if he does get re-elected and he ends up appointing 2-3 more SCOTUSES that people saying my post is irrational and fearful would see it differently then.

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And in four years you’ll parrot the same fearmongering for Klobuchar v Cotton

”YOU’RE A SHITTY PERSON WHO HATES CIVILIZED SOCIETY IF YOU DON’T SUPPORT OUR ESTABLISHMENT CENTRIST!”

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Do you like how things are going under Trump?

I don't.

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Like I said, I'm voting for Biden. If I was a working class voter getting raped by things like private healthcare costs and stagnant wages, I doubt I'd be able to distinguish between the two.

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Originally Posted by David Hogg

I think even Mitch knows there’s no way he could block a Supreme Court seat for 4 years. But he’d sure as hell try.

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He'd definitely block it for four years under a President Biden if he had the senate the entire time. 100% he would.

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Originally Posted by Will Hunting

You didn't stop at 7-2, you mentioned 8-1 as 9-0 as possibilities, which I said was irrational. That's what I was commenting on.

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So I stretched it a little.

But then again, I did mention if he successfully runs for re-election he would then prop up Ivanka for 2024. She would no doubt continue his fuck up ways.

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Originally Posted by David Hogg

And in four years you’ll parrot the same fearmongering for Klobuchar v Cotton

”YOU’RE A SHITTY PERSON WHO HATES CIVILIZED SOCIETY IF YOU DON’T SUPPORT OUR ESTABLISHMENT CENTRIST!”

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I didn't like Klobuchar this year, but I'm going to like her in the next cycle. Makes sense..

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Originally Posted by Will Hunting

Like I said, I'm voting for Biden. If I was a working class voter getting raped by things like private healthcare costs and stagnant wages, I doubt I'd be able to distinguish between the two.

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OK.

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Originally Posted by Reck

So I stretched it a little.

But then again, I did mention if he successfully runs for re-election he would then prop up Ivanka for 2024. She would no doubt continue his fuck up ways.

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And I'm sure that after the "win the center with an establishment centrist" strategy goes 0-2 against DJT, you'd be advocating to trot out the same strategy against his daughter in 2024.

In-fighting! Worldstar! Worldstar!

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Originally Posted by DMC

In-fighting! Worldstar! Worldstar!

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:lol

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Originally Posted by Reck

I didn't like Klobuchar this year, but I'm going to like her in the next cycle. Makes sense..

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You’ll like her if the DNC tells you to like her.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

:lol You guys talking yourselves into voting green?

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No, not yet. Really don't like that they only vie for the white house. leaning towards La Riva