Florida Department of Education orders all its schools to reopen campuses in August after coronavirus closures

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I already have it. Thats why I know not in pandemic or epidemic thresholds. Great name calling



Now show your proof for your fake numbers

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[email protected] holderp asking for numbers, never provides his math

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I already have it. Thats why I know not in pandemic or epidemic thresholds. Great name calling



Now show your proof for your fake numbers

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OK Dr Foldren

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[email protected] holderp asking for numbers, never provides his math

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lol so you can't calculate it

where's randomguy with his concern over all the nordic countries school during covid?

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lol so you can't calculate it

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Lol so you can't show your math

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where's randomguy with his concern over all the nordic countries school during covid?

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Gossip

Older Children Spread the Coronavirus Just as Much as Adults, Large Study Finds

The study of nearly 65,000 people in South Korea suggests that school reopenings will trigger more outbreaks.

Children younger than 10 transmit to others much less often than adults do, but the risk is not zero.

And those between the ages of 10 and 19 can spread the virus at least as well as adults do.

The findings suggest that as schools reopen, communities will see clusters of infection take root that include children of all ages, several experts cautioned.

“I fear that there has been this sense that kids just won’t get infected or don’t get infected in the same way as adults and that, therefore, they’re almost like a bubbled population,”

Children under 10 were roughly half as likely as adults to spread the virus to others, consistent with other studies.

That may be because children generally exhale less air — and therefore less virus-laden air — or because they exhale that air closer to the ground, making it less likely that adults would breathe it in.

Children under 10 were roughly half as likely as adults to spread the virus to others, consistent with other studies

the large number of contacts for schoolchildren, who interact with dozens of others for a good part of the day, may cancel out their smaller risk of infecting others.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/h...n-schools.html

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Older Children Spread the Coronavirus Just as Much as Adults, Large Study Finds

The study of nearly 65,000 people in South Korea suggests that school reopenings will trigger more outbreaks.

Children younger than 10 transmit to others much less often than adults do, but the risk is not zero.

And those between the ages of 10 and 19 can spread the virus at least as well as adults do.

The findings suggest that as schools reopen, communities will see clusters of infection take root that include children of all ages, several experts cautioned.

“I fear that there has been this sense that kids just won’t get infected or don’t get infected in the same way as adults and that, therefore, they’re almost like a bubbled population,”

Children under 10 were roughly half as likely as adults to spread the virus to others, consistent with other studies.

That may be because children generally exhale less air — and therefore less virus-laden air — or because they exhale that air closer to the ground, making it less likely that adults would breathe it in.

Children under 10 were roughly half as likely as adults to spread the virus to others, consistent with other studies

the large number of contacts for schoolchildren, who interact with dozens of others for a good part of the day, may cancel out their smaller risk of infecting others.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/h...n-schools.html

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False. Ask sweden

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False. Ask sweden

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Lol outdated. This is July

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Lol outdated. This is July

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He's such a dumb bastard. Um, school children get virus, go home pass it to mom who works in nursing home, mom super spreads it to nursing home. Sweden's higher death toll reflects spread was more unmitigated.

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False. Ask sweden

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However, a scan of Swedish newspapers makes clear that school outbreaks have occurred. In the town of Skellefteå, a teacher died and 18 of 76 staff tested positive at a school with about 500 students in preschool through ninth grade. The school closed for 2 weeks because so many staff were sick, but students were not tested for the virus. In Uppsala, staff protested when school officials, citing patient privacy rules, declined to notify families or staff that a teacher had tested positive. No contact tracing was done at the school. At least two staff members at other schools have died, but those schools remained open and no one attempted to trace the spread of the disease there. When asked about these cases, Ludvigsson said he was unaware of them. He did not respond to a query about whether he would amend the review article to include them.

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Cut a school's staff by a 3rd just like that. I can never recall in a time going to school where a 3rd of the staff was out sick. Quit gossiping, dipshit.

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Yeah, let's ask them.



Cut a school's staff by a 3rd just like that. I can never recall in a time going to school where a 3rd of the staff was out sick. Quit gossiping, dipshit.

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THAT'S JUST GOSSIP YOU DIDN'T CALCULATE THE REAL MATH THAT I'M HOLDING HERE IN MY BUNKER THAT NOBODY ELSE CAN SEE

LOLOLOLOLO IFR

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Yeah, let's ask them.



Cut a school's staff by a 3rd just like that. I can never recall in a time going to school where a 3rd of the staff was out sick. Quit gossiping, dipshit.

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And that is 2 deaths out of the population of Sweden. Wich again would make ifr lower than flu. Stop the gossip and the name-calling

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ifr

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Show your math.

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And that is 2 deaths out of the population of Sweden. Wich again would make ifr lower than flu. Stop the gossip and the name-calling

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The entire population of Sweden isn't teachers, you immense idiot.

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The entire population of Sweden isn't teachers, you immense idiot.

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Lolololololol your argument.

San Antonio Teacher Groups Balk at a Return to the Classroom in August

“Having us return to the classroom is a disaster waiting to happen,” Espiritu-Azocar said.

“Once we return, I don’t see how we would be in the classroom very long before they start shutting down the schools” because of coronavirus outbreaks.

Returning brings personal health and safety concerns,

while choosing to stay home when the state mandates campuses reopen raises other problems.

there’s no guaranteed job security for educators who don’t feel comfortable returning to the classroom.

fear of contracting coronavirus is causing teachers to contemplate resigning or retiring rather than risk teaching in the classroom.

they fear bringing the coronavirus home to their family and worry about their own underlying health conditions that could affect them if they were to contract the virus.

They also worry about how to manage their own child care,

State funding plays a significant role in school districts’ reopening plans, Longoria said.

“Districts are being forced to open because funding is tied to opening,”

she said, acknowledging

districts can’t let all teachers remain at home without jeopardizing state money that funds payroll.

“If they don’t [reopen] then they’re going to get dinged on it, so we’re very concerned on [about] it.”

https://therivardreport.com/san-antonio-teacher-groups-balk-at-a-return-to-the-classroom-in-august

Florida communities live in ‘terror’ due to ‘COVID-19 parties’ large enough to block streets: Police

multiple gated communities are facing a threat from large “COVID-19 parties” being organized by out-of-towners renting vacation homes — and the residents are “living a life of terror right now.”

“They’re … actually getting together and they’re trying to mingle to potentially spread the virus amongst each other if they’re asymptomatic or whatever the case might be,”

we’ve been finding out that there are people here that are unsavory people that you wouldn’t want in your neighborhoods.

There are some gangs, that are renting these houses, and they’re coming here to Osceola County."

COVID parties have been reported in a number of other states, including Alabama, Kentucky, and Texas.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/flo...treets-police/

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The entire population of Sweden isn't teachers, you immense idiot.

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lolololoo 2

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San Antonio Teacher Groups Balk at a Return to the Classroom in August

“Having us return to the classroom is a disaster waiting to happen,” Espiritu-Azocar said.

“Once we return, I don’t see how we would be in the classroom very long before they start shutting down the schools” because of coronavirus outbreaks.

Returning brings personal health and safety concerns,

while choosing to stay home when the state mandates campuses reopen raises other problems.

there’s no guaranteed job security for educators who don’t feel comfortable returning to the classroom.

fear of contracting coronavirus is causing teachers to contemplate resigning or retiring rather than risk teaching in the classroom.

they fear bringing the coronavirus home to their family and worry about their own underlying health conditions that could affect them if they were to contract the virus.

They also worry about how to manage their own child care,

State funding plays a significant role in school districts’ reopening plans, Longoria said.

“Districts are being forced to open because funding is tied to opening,”

she said, acknowledging

districts can’t let all teachers remain at home without jeopardizing state money that funds payroll.

“If they don’t [reopen] then they’re going to get dinged on it, so we’re very concerned on [about] it.”

https://therivardreport.com/san-antonio-teacher-groups-balk-at-a-return-to-the-classroom-in-august

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Sucks that the president wants to put the onus on the states

Sucks that the states want to put the onus on the counties

But that's where we're at in these Trump times.... Take all the credit for the good, pass the buck on the bad

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A troll that proves other trolls wrong

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He's such a dumb bastard. Um, school children get virus, go home pass it to mom who works in nursing home, mom super spreads it to nursing home. Sweden's higher death toll reflects spread was more unmitigated.

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Covid-19 Spread Fastest by Teens and Tweens, Korea Study Finds
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ea-study-finds

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For people who lived with patients between the ages of 10 and 19, 18.6% tested positive for the virus within about 10 days after the initial case was detected -- the highest rate of transmission among the groups studied. Children younger than 10 spread the virus at the lowest rate, though researchers warned that could change when schools reopen.

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Yeah.. TSA

There is the hole in your data.

Not safe to open schools, especially in hotspots
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-1315_article

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Florida teen met friends against family’s wishes.

Now dad has COVID-19, fighting for his life

https://globalnews.ca/news/7188224/f...onavirus-teen/

To Trash, his mafiya, and spineless Repugs, who don't give a fuck about you, what's a few 1000 debilitated or dead parents?

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Well that puts the Korean study in an interesting light. Fuck.

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Stupid virus doesn't know it's not supposed to transmit from young people.

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All the studies TSA was fapping to, all his links were to things about "children" 10 and younger.

With TSA there is always some missing part of the truth, and the part he left out, where he was disingenuous was that we didn't know about adolescents.

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Covid-19 Spread Fastest by Teens and Tweens, Korea Study Finds
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ea-study-finds



Yeah.. TSA

There is the hole in your data.

Not safe to open schools, especially in hotspots
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-1315_article

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Midnightpulp and RandomGuy lololololololikol

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All the studies TSA was fapping to, all his links were to things about "children" 10 and younger.

With TSA there is always some missing part of the truth, and the part he left out, where is was disingenuous was that we didn't know about adolescents.

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Yep, I noticed that too. Fortunately it will be easier to teach older students remotely but there's no way in hell it can be a one size fits all policy from PreK-12.

Sounds like Indiana has a solid plan :tu

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Pandemic in Indiana is as uncontrolled as any red state

the gov is a con man conning schools and businesses to open as the pandemic worsens, complying with the anti-leadership from Trash and Birx

see USA : Indiana

https://www.statnews.com/feature/cor...aign=hp_widget

I haven’t followed this thread, so I don’t know if this has been discussed already. But one of my biggest questions about re-opening school is about the age cut-off line.

Even if we were to assume that kids are for the most part (for lack of a better term) immune to the virus and are not generally vectors for the disease even if they do get infected, even assuming that to be true, until what age? Seems like I’ve read things like “under 17” stats. Well, there are kids in high school who are 17 and older. Do we just tell those high school seniors and juniors they can’t go back and have to do everything from home online? What about kids who are 16 and turn 17 during the school year? Pull them out of school after their birthday?

I know that the data is not certain, and certainly not absolute. We don’t know everything yet, obviously. But the whole children could be immune angle troubles me as it relates to defining who the kids are. Is it pre-puberty kids only? Only kids under 17? How do we know? I have a niece who will turn 17 next week and will be a senior in high school. I worry about her because I don’t know what the truth is when it comes to the age of kids and the coronavirus.

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I have a niece who will turn 17 next week and will be a senior in high school. I worry about her because I don’t know what the truth is when it comes to the age of kids and the coronavirus.

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this is Trash's CDC so not immune to political massaging, even if from CA

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID...Age-Group.aspx

The look on this guy's face at the end of the video. :lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C7R1vrbne8

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I haven’t followed this thread, so I don’t know if this has been discussed already. But one of my biggest questions about re-opening school is about the age cut-off line.

Even if we were to assume that kids are for the most part (for lack of a better term) immune to the virus and are not generally vectors for the disease even if they do get infected, even assuming that to be true, until what age? Seems like I’ve read things like “under 17” stats. Well, there are kids in high school who are 17 and older. Do we just tell those high school seniors and juniors they can’t go back and have to do everything from home online? What about kids who are 16 and turn 17 during the school year? Pull them out of school after their birthday?

I know that the data is not certain, and certainly not absolute. We don’t know everything yet, obviously. But the whole children could be immune angle troubles me as it relates to defining who the kids are. Is it pre-puberty kids only? Only kids under 17? How do we know? I have a niece who will turn 17 next week and will be a senior in high school. I worry about her because I don’t know what the truth is when it comes to the age of kids and the coronavirus.

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Best study to date was just released a couple days ago, Mid also made a thread on it: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/h...n-schools.html

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I haven’t followed this thread, so I don’t know if this has been discussed already. But one of my biggest questions about re-opening school is about the age cut-off line.

Even if we were to assume that kids are for the most part (for lack of a better term) immune to the virus and are not generally vectors for the disease even if they do get infected, even assuming that to be true, until what age? Seems like I’ve read things like “under 17” stats. Well, there are kids in high school who are 17 and older. Do we just tell those high school seniors and juniors they can’t go back and have to do everything from home online? What about kids who are 16 and turn 17 during the school year? Pull them out of school after their birthday?

I know that the data is not certain, and certainly not absolute. We don’t know everything yet, obviously. But the whole children could be immune angle troubles me as it relates to defining who the kids are. Is it pre-puberty kids only? Only kids under 17? How do we know? I have a niece who will turn 17 next week and will be a senior in high school. I worry about her because I don’t know what the truth is when it comes to the age of kids and the coronavirus.

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The idea that 17 year-olds aren't vectors sounded ridiculous when we know 21-29 year-olds in bars were by far the most devastating vector in Texas' descent into hell.

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I haven’t followed this thread, so I don’t know if this has been discussed already. But one of my biggest questions about re-opening school is about the age cut-off line.

Even if we were to assume that kids are for the most part (for lack of a better term) immune to the virus and are not generally vectors for the disease even if they do get infected, even assuming that to be true, until what age? Seems like I’ve read things like “under 17” stats. Well, there are kids in high school who are 17 and older. Do we just tell those high school seniors and juniors they can’t go back and have to do everything from home online? What about kids who are 16 and turn 17 during the school year? Pull them out of school after their birthday?

I know that the data is not certain, and certainly not absolute. We don’t know everything yet, obviously. But the whole children could be immune angle troubles me as it relates to defining who the kids are. Is it pre-puberty kids only? Only kids under 17? How do we know? I have a niece who will turn 17 next week and will be a senior in high school. I worry about her because I don’t know what the truth is when it comes to the age of kids and the coronavirus.

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And then there are the teachers

oops wrong thread

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The idea that 17 year-olds aren't vectors sounded ridiculous when we know 21-29 year-olds in bars were by far the most devastating vector in Texas' descent into hell.

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Lololololl proceeding to gossip

Does anyone know how covid affects kids compared to the flu? If it's even close, the kids/parents should be given the option of school in person - no one thinks of shutting down schools because of annual flu. Regardless, most parents probably has some option of online - if they are concerned, then have the kids stay home (and provide child care for the little/elementary-aged ones).

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Does anyone know how covid affects kids compared to the flu? If it's even close, the kids/parents should be given the option of school in person - no one thinks of shutting down schools because of annual flu. Regardless, most parents probably has some option of online - if they are concerned, then have the kids stay home (and provide child care for the little/elementary-aged ones).

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Does anyone know how covid affects teachers?

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Does anyone know how covid affects teachers?

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yes. There is data everywhere that shows who is at risk and who is not. Try reading that

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Does anyone know how covid affects kids compared to the flu? If it's even close, the kids/parents should be given the option of school in person - no one thinks of shutting down schools because of annual flu. Regardless, most parents probably has some option of online - if they are concerned, then have the kids stay home (and provide child care for the little/elementary-aged ones).

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Remember when your retarded ass said it was just increasing testing driving your outbreak?

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Lololololl proceeding to gossip

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LOL COVID Truther boomer

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Does anyone know how covid affects teachers?

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Not all teachers are at high risk - just like not all kids will choose to go to physical school. Those teachers can teach those kids from home.

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Not all teachers are at high risk - just like not all kids will choose to go to physical school. Those teachers can teach those kids from home.

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Why risk any teacher at all then?

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Why risk any teacher at all then?

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why live if covid will kill us all

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Teachers sue Florida governor for order to reopen schools in defiance of ‘basic human needs for health and safety’

Teachers in Florida—where coronavirus cases continue to surge—filed a lawsuit on Monday to block a state-ordered physical reopening of schools in August, saying,

“There is no rational basis for ignoring science and evidence-based data.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/tea...th-and-safety/

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Why risk any teacher at all then?

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Why aren't you concerned about the employees in the grocery stores, Home Depot, Walmart, Costco, dentist/doctor's offices? What's so special about teachers - other than they are unionized?

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Not all teachers are at high risk - just like not all kids will choose to go to physical school. Those teachers can teach those kids from home.

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It's all high risk if you're in an enclosed area with 160 students 6-7 hours a day, 5 days a week, shithead.

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Why aren't you concerned about the employees in the grocery stores, Home Depot, Walmart, Costco, dentist/doctor's offices? What's so special about teachers - other than they are unionized?

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I don't know if you don't know this, but you die when you don't eat. So because grocery stores are high risk essential businesses that 100% have to be open, just fucking throw everyone into high risk areas.

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Why aren't you concerned about the employees in the grocery stores, Home Depot, Walmart, Costco, dentist/doctor's offices? What's so special about teachers - other than they are unionized?

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:cry If hospitals get to be open, why not bars? :cry

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:cry If hospitals get to be open, why not bars? :cry

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Give us the stats on hospital workers and you may have answered your question

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Give us the stats on hospital workers and you may have answered your question

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gossip

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:cry If hospitals get to be open, why not bars? :cry

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These buffoons go to this line of reasoning every time

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Give us the stats on hospital workers and you may have answered your question

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Give us your stats

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These buffoons go to this line of reasoning every time

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lolollopoloopolol

Hospitals never over capacity

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Give us the stats on hospital workers and you may have answered your question

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What stat? People have to work hospitals. Society can't function without hospitals.

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What stat? People have to work hospitals. Society can't function without hospitals.

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Oddly enough the cdc doesn't have the data. Shocking.

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Oddly enough the cdc doesn't have the data. Shocking.

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Oddly enough the cdc doesn't have the data. Shocking.

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they only have partial data. Beahahahahahhahahahahahaha


Cdc lolololollooo

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they only have partial data. Beahahahahahhahahahahahaha

Cdc lolololollooo

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wrong

I was in Lowe's this afternoon, cashiers had masks and behind extensive plastic screens

Every customer saw had a mask

Same situation at HEB

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I was in Lowe's this afternoon, cashiers had masks and behind extensive plastic screens

Every customer saw had a mask

Same situation at HEB

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You seem disappointed

‘Kids Are at Risk’: Coronavirus Cases Among Bexar County Children Reach Record High

Children ages 18 and younger now make up 11.2 percent of local coronavirus cases, a new high in Bexar County,

https://therivardreport.com/bexar-county-children-coronavirus-cases-covid-19

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I don't know if you don't know this, but you die when you don't eat. So because grocery stores are high risk essential businesses that 100% have to be open, just fucking throw everyone into high risk areas.

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Are you saying that they sell groceries at Home Depot? That's news to me. As far as I know Home Depot has not closed during covid. No sympathy for Home Depot employees when their clientele is much MORE likely to spread or be affected by covid.

And I guess all those liquor stores and pot places sell groceries too - just no sympathy for them. Maybe the sympathy is only for UNIONIZED employees but wait, that'd include POLICE - so I guess not.

There's no sympathy for the cops being beaten up on but omg, the little kids MIGHT spread covid to the teachers - like they can't take precautions like every other worker dealing with the public.

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Are you saying that they sell groceries at Home Depot? That's news to me. As far as I know Home Depot has not closed during covid. No sympathy for Home Depot employees when their clientele is much MORE likely to spread or be affected by covid.

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You're a fucking retard, Home Depot employees aren't cooped up in a small room with 30-35 students 7 hours a day. I mean really, die in a fire or something.

Is rmt serious?

"cops are beaten up" WTF

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"cops are beaten up" WTF

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Oh, you missed this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1VdhQbfSTY

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Oh, you missed this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1VdhQbfSTY

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boo hoo. did they die tho?

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There's no sympathy for the cops being beaten up on but omg, the little kids MIGHT spread covid to the teachers - like they can't take precautions like every other worker dealing with the public.

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TEACHERS NEED TO GET INSIDE THAT CLASSROOM BECAUSE WHATABOUT COPS GETTING BEAT UP ON.

makes totally perfect sense, imo

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Are you saying that they sell groceries at Home Depot? That's news to me. As far as I know Home Depot has not closed during covid. No sympathy for Home Depot employees when their clientele is much MORE likely to spread or be affected by covid.

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Have you been inside a Home Depot?

Have you been inside a classroom?

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Are you saying that they sell groceries at Home Depot? That's news to me. As far as I know Home Depot has not closed during covid. No sympathy for Home Depot employees when their clientele is much MORE likely to spread or be affected by covid.

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I may not always go to Home Depot, but when I do, its not to stay in a small room with 25 people for seven hours five days a week.

keep the schools closed until the case counts are under control.

Even where Trump is popular, some school leaders reject his push to reopen schools

Reopening schools is seen as a linchpin to restarting the economy, making it a crucial part of his reelection bid.

school officials who worry that reopening schools could accelerate the spread of the virus.

In interviews, some expressed frustration that the president was pushing schools to reopen but

offering little in the way of help, financial or otherwise.

Congress allocated $13.5 billion in pandemic relief to K-12 schools,

compared with the $100 billion they got in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis.

I’ve got to look out first and foremost for the kids, for the teachers, the service personnel, all those involved right on down to the parents.”

The red-state governors who have followed Trump’s lead have faced swift backlash from school leaders.

Teachers, however, are pushing back hard.

On Monday, Florida’s largest teachers union sued DeSantis and the state’s top education official to force them to roll back their emergency order.

Many parents are reluctant, too, as the science around how well children spread the virus remains inconclusive.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/07/21/even-where-trump-is-popular-some-school-leaders-reject-his-push-reopen-schools

this whole teaching thing is now that parents realize how shitty it is to spend all day with their crappy kids, they want to throw them back at the teachers who initially had to spend all day with their shitty kids. And they still won't give them a pay raise.

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I may not always go to Home Depot, but when I do, its not to stay in a small room with 25 people for seven hours five days a week.

keep the schools closed until the case counts are under control.

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lol cases bwahahahhahahahahhahaha

^ lol gossip

https://i.postimg.cc/V6CqznjX/614033...2-CCA18743.jpg

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https://i.postimg.cc/V6CqznjX/614033...2-CCA18743.jpg

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"boo socialism but we need to drag these kids into publicly funded school buildings for their own good"

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"boo socialism but we need to drag these kids into publicly funded school buildings for their own good"

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:lmao the Republican way - “Put your children at risk for the betterment of our country! But not my kids, just yours.”

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people so blinded by media they only think virus happens in USA.

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That's you. You're in here hourly crying about Sweden

Students atheletes, I would expect most were not kids, but teens, middle and high school?

1000s of that age group have died, and many 1000Ms more have been severely damaged.

and student athletes are only a tiny %age of all students.

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Athletes getting depressed because they can't play sports?

Why didn't you say so? Let's get these schools fully open today!

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Originally Posted by Blake

Athletes getting depressed because they can't play sports?

Why didn't you say so? Let's get these schools fully open today!

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You sucked at sports when you were a kid, didn't you, board cuckold? :lmao

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Students atheletes, I would expect most were not kids, but teens, middle and high school?

1000s of that age group have died, and many 1000Ms more have been severely damaged.

and student athletes are only a tiny %age of all students.

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In the US 1000s of teens have died from covid and many 1000Ms more have been severely damaged by covid? Where are you getting these stats from?

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this whole teaching thing is now that parents realize how shitty it is to spend all day with their crappy kids, they want to throw them back at the teachers who initially had to spend all day with their shitty kids. And they still won't give them a pay raise.

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DCSAA just got 3% raise - only after teachers got theirs, of course. Don't swallow the lie that they aren't getting paid - especially the retirees before Rick Scott reformed Florida Retirement System. Before Scott's changes, COLA was 3% per year - imagine starting at 22, work 30 years and start collecting pension [based on 5 highest years plus max 60 days vacation plus all the {unlimited} sick leave accumulated from 30 years at 12 per year) for the rest of your life at 3% guaranteed raise per year. Now, after 2011, for each year worked, n/30 gets subtracted from COLA.

This is after a proposition was approved on last ballot for raises for teachers in Miami-Dade - I hear that some senior teachers got a $22k bump.

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DCSAA just got 3% raise - only after teachers got theirs, of course. Don't swallow the lie that they aren't getting paid - especially the retirees before Rick Scott reformed Florida Retirement System. Before Scott's changes, COLA was 3% per year - imagine starting at 22, work 30 years and start collecting pension [based on 5 highest years plus max 60 days vacation plus all the {unlimited} sick leave accumulated from 30 years at 12 per year) for the rest of your life at 3% guaranteed raise per year. Now, after 2011, for each year worked, n/30 gets subtracted from COLA.

This is after a proposition was approved on last ballot for raises for teachers in Miami-Dade - I hear that some senior teachers got a $22k bump.

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Lol "I hear"

38 people test positive for COVID-19 following Ky. high school football team outbreak


BY VALARIE HONEYCUTT SPEARS
JULY 20, 2020 01:31 PM , UPDATED JULY 20, 2020 07:53 PM

A COVID-19 outbreak among Hazard Independent High School football players had spread by Monday to 38 people, including 18 football players, three coaches and 17 of their family members and close contacts who have tested positive.


Scott Lockard, the director of the Kentucky River District Health Department in Hazard who provided the numbers to the Herald-Leader, said all 38 have been recovering at home.


Lockard had reported on July 11 that the southeastern Kentucky school had suspended athletic team workouts as nine players and a coach tested positive for COVID-19 in a cluster.


With the increase in cases, he said Monday that athletic workouts, practices and training at the school have now been suspended indefinitely. A weight room at the high school was considered to be the common denominator.


“The outbreak is related, we feel like is related, to out-of -state travel,” Lockard said.


On Monday night, Lockard clarified that the first student reported to the health department as testing positive and his family had not traveled out of state as Lockard had said earlier in the day.


“But he was exposed to other individuals associated with the team who had traveled out of state and have tested positive for COVID-19,” Lockard said.


Lockard did not identify the other state.


He said the high school weight room “we think was a big part of the transmission between the students.”


Lockard said the health department would work with the school to determine when it was safe to resume workouts.


Last week, Hazard Independent Superintendent Sondra Combs said the district school reopening date was going to be delayed to August 24, noting “the rising number of positive cases and some anxiety of our families.”


Lockard said he could not confirm that Hazard Independent was the Kentucky school that Gov. Andy Beshear mentioned during a Friday news conference as having 36 positive COVID-19 cases as of Friday and being an example of “community impact.”


Beshear would not identify that school where he said masks were not being worn inside a weight room. He noted that 18 players and three coaches had tested positive and as of Friday, 15 others.


“This is just one example of why wearing a mask is absolutely critical,” Beshear said. “Let’s just take this as another lesson that we’re living in really dangerous times.”


“It says that we need to be nervous right now about sports,” he said.


The case associated with a high school athletic team comes as school districts across the state, including Fayette, are trying to decide how and when to reopen schools which shut down in-person learning in March as the coronavirus spread.


On Sunday, Beshear announced the largest single day increase in COVID-19 cases at 979. Lexington health officials on Monday announced a spike in cases of children under 18.

Hearing of schools in maryland, dc and va are going to be virtual

But but the children will hqve to stay home :cry

Time to start building lots of little coffins

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The stunted education and mental health of kids learning from home with shitty resources is a legitimate concern tbh. But “just send the poor kids back to school” isn’t a great solution.

I know some like to bash Rick Scott but reforming the Florida Retirement System was one good thing he did - saved a lot of runaway abuses - now it's in pretty good shape (compared to other states).

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I know some like to bash Rick Scott but reforming the Florida Retirement System was one good thing he did - saved a lot of runaway abuses - now it's in pretty good shape (compared to other states).

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Wow imagine bashing the criminal behind the biggest case of medicare fraud the country has ever seen.

Kids are reasonably safe from dying.

https://data.cdc.gov/d/9bhg-hcku/visualization

The primary argument is how will it spread it to staff at schools? In Sweden:

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However, a scan of Swedish newspapers makes clear that school outbreaks have occurred. In the town of Skellefteå, a teacher died and 18 of 76 staff tested positive at a school with about 500 students in preschool through ninth grade. The school closed for 2 weeks because so many staff were sick,

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We tend to do things on another level of irresponsibility in the US, so if Sweden is having outbreaks in schools that cause shutdowns, what will happen here? My other worry is that while kids are at less risk from dying of Covid vs. the flu, are they at less risk from long term complications? Sure, I think opening schools in sparsely population regions like Montana or whatever is relatively safe, but an inner city in New York presents a different problem.