EVERYTHING from Trash's compromised, lackey-polluted, politicized CDC is suspectQuote:
Originally Posted by TSA
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EVERYTHING from Trash's compromised, lackey-polluted, politicized CDC is suspectQuote:
Originally Posted by TSA
There's a reason Donald Trump is 'comfortable' sending his son back to school
Baron Trump attends St. Andrew's Episcopal School in Maryland.
The number of kids in his grade is approximately 40.
The average number of students in a classroom is … 11.
It’s not hard to believe that St. Andrew's—enrollment $40,650 per year—is well-positioned to take extraordinary precautions regarding COVID-19.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...tail=emaildkre
The CDC trusts cities, counties and states to make the right determination; CDC was prevented from introducing technical curbs to reopening, Mike Pence was very open about this. The links you posted were drafted swiftly to mollify political higher ups, the faintly hortatory, somewhat breezy and philosophical tone gives it away as propaganda.Quote:
Originally Posted by TSA
It's startling how quickly Trump trashed the credibility and reliability of the CDC, turning it into yet another cog in the Trump political shop.
Economic depression and avoidable mass death will take their toll, maybe someday partisans like you will demand solutions from their leaders instead excusing their failures.
A Florida scientist has filed a whistleblower lawsuit for not fudging the data. Fired for not lying.
Need to fast track this suit.
As Trump Calls for Schools to Fully Reopen, His Son’s School Says It Will Not
St. Andrew’s Episcopal School, the private school in the Maryland suburbs attended by Barron Trump, said
it was considering either a hybrid part-time plan or
going back to entirely online classes.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/u...8h8xlAEAfpU8Jc
"Members of a leading group of infectious disease experts warned Thursday against reopening schools in Florida, Texas and other states where coronavirus cases are surging, saying older children are just as likely to spread Covid-19 as adults.
"The simple answer is no," Dr. Tina Tan, a professor of pediatrics at Northwestern University, said when asked whether she would suggest reopening schools in states such as Florida, Texas, California and Arizona in the near future.
""When you have such surges of disease in the community, you're basically asking for trouble if you open schools, because you're bringing in individuals from all across the community that potentially may be exposed to it," Tan said on a conference call hosted by the Infectious Disease Society of America.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/23/coro...ida-texas.html
"bioRxiv is receiving many new papers on coronavirus SARS-CoV-2. A reminder: these are preliminary reports that have not been peer-reviewed. They should not be regarded as conclusive, guide clinical practice/health-related behavior, or be reported in news media as established information."Quote:
Originally Posted by TSA
Smh
I understand the benefits of school for the kids. Over 600 adults in AISD are under quarantine orders and school hasn't even started.
If that happens when school is actually in session, who's going to teach and run the schools?
I think we all get benefits of school for so many families and kids for so many reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
But that question "what about the school staff?" always seems to get swept under the carpet or given the "what about Walmart workers?" treatment.
I guess the school districts pushing forward will be the guinea pigs
That'd be the dental hygenists who are out there cleaning our teeth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
Nah, it's pretty clear what PPE would work for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by rmt
And teachers can't wear masks (and shields if they are at high risk)?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
HA HA THAT WAS A GOOD ONEQuote:
Originally Posted by rmt
And back to the beginning of why we need masks. SmhQuote:
Originally Posted by rmt
What's so funny? Aren't Texan dentist offices open?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
failed whataboutisms are hilariousQuote:
Originally Posted by rmt
I forgot about the hundreds of people packed into dental offices in Texas that were already overcrowded before social distancing was important.Quote:
Originally Posted by rmt
Do hygienists in Florida treat 30 patients at once for six hours?Quote:
Originally Posted by rmt
No shit...it literally says preprint in the tweet. But continue on pointing this out on every preprint study I post and while staying silent while others post the same, it makes me laugh to know you are still this butthurt that I called you out for starting an entirely new thread on herd immunity based on a single anecdote from single doctor and his one patient :rollinQuote:
Originally Posted by Blake
Right now I prefer front line anecdotes from doctors over non-peer reviewed reports. You do you.Quote:
Originally Posted by TSA
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Blake
I think the CDC should have a baseline spec for reopening (ie: at most X number of cases in the last month, etc), in order to dissuade governors like Deathrow DeSantis, but leave the granular details to the States...
Hey remember that time you retweeted gummi? That was funny tooQuote:
Originally Posted by TSA
Nonsense. Get out there and die for Republican re-election chances already.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
"One of Abbott's top medical advisers said Thursday more must be done to slow the spread of the virus, including greater enforcement of statewide orders and more flexibility for local governments to implement and enforce their own, more restrictive orders.
"It's not enough to just stop the growth in cases at this very high level," Dr. Mark McClellan, a former U.S. Food and Drug Administration commissioner and one of three outside health experts advising Abbott on reopening the state's economy, told the American-Statesman. "It's a very difficult situation for health care organizations. It makes it hard — if not impossible — to reopen schools. Further steps are needed, hopefully through more people wearing masks and following the guidelines, but more steps are needed to get the cases down."
https://www.statesman.com/news/20200...at-good-enough
BALONEY. LOOK AT SWEDEN
What was funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by Blake
blake didn't know how ny schools were opening but gossiped about it.
Wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by tholdren
no thats 100 percent correct f5Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by tholdren
LiesQuote:
Originally Posted by tholdren
Blake lying about blake lying
Lolololo
"DALLAS — Dallas County officials announced Friday that 29 children have been hospitalized for COVID-19 during the first three weeks of July.
Over 1,450 children under 18 years old have been diagnosed with confirmed COVID-19 during that same time frame, officials announced.
A 5-year-old boy is the youngest to die in Dallas County in the COVID-19 pandemic. He had been critically ill in a hospital and had underlying health risk conditions, officials said Friday...."
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/he...9-3af45c5e6745
If there's going to be disregard for human life and human health let it not be some wishy washy half step, but full blown and wanton disregard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
"Elisa Soliz lost her sister to the new coronavirus in late May and says at least nine other family members have tested positive. The 63-year-old school bus driver lives in Hidalgo County in the Rio Grande Valley — an area that’s been devastated by the pandemic.
In the weekend edition of The Brief podcast, listen to why Soliz says she’ll retire before subjecting herself to a busload of kids, many of whom lack access to health care...."
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07...navirus-texas/
I'm sure they have plenty of substitute drivers lined up. No worries
Should ask Balous Miller where to go from here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
Teachers sue Florida governor for order to reopen schools in defiance of ‘basic human needs for health and safety’
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/tea...th-and-safety/
Why aren't other schools in other countries having these problems?Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
CHILDREN CAN VERY DEFINITELY PASS COVID-19 TO OTHER CHILDREN AND TO ADULTS
a paper published in the most recent Emerging Infectious Diseases Journal at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) draws starkly different conclusions.
When adjusted for rates of contact,
risk of transmission was found to be higher for children than for adults.
In fact, school-aged children were the most likely source of infections in a household.
We also found the highest COVID-19 rate (18.6%) for household contacts of school-aged children and the lowest (5.3%) for household contacts of children 0–9 years in the middle of school closure.
That same study reinforces the information that other studies showing low rates of transmission among children “showed that
school closure and social distancing significantly reduced the rate of COVID-19 among contacts of school-aged children.”
In other words,
the low rates of transmission by children ...
was explicitly because of school closures and
the resulting reduced rate of contacts by children.
there are plenty of real-world examples.
Like in Kansas City, where resuming summertime sport activities and teen parties has driven a spike in cases not just among teenagers, but in their families.
And in Cincinnati, where rates of positive tests for teenagers are up to 7% after just a few weeks of relaxed guidelines. Even kids under 10 are seeing 5% positive results.
All the evidence indicates that
teenagers can spread the disease just as well as adults,
and there is really absolutely no reason to think the same thing is not true of younger children.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/23/1963133/-Reopening-the-schools-is-an-invitation-to-create-a-wholly-unnecessary-national-tragedy?detail=emaildkre
Many articles say opposite
this is falseQuote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
But you're a liar and a nobodyQuote:
Originally Posted by tholdren
Are you a truthful somebody cuckold?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
You're a liar and an ankle biter. That's the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurtacular
We can not even engage the already established cuckold part of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
Are you a truthful somebody?
Go back to your sandbox, boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurtacular
You can't even claim you're a truthful somebody?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
Then I guess you calling someone a lying nobody is laughable.
You've never proven I've liedQuote:
Originally Posted by Blake
wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by tholdren
Why did the Marlins play last night?
Oh the horror!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Callous disregard for the lives of pro ball players, whatever's that's worth to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by tholdren
They made a choice. Get over yourselfQuote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
MLB made a decision to play ball in a pandemic, they'll have to face the flames.Quote:
Originally Posted by tholdren
Calling the MLB season off?
FL now has more C19 cases than NY
:lmao fatball
they made a choice. Stop the gossipQuote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Guess which two states have the most newly unemployed. Hint: It's the two worst governors
UNADJUSTED INITIAL CLAIMS FOR WEEK ENDED JULY 11, 2020
FLORIDA +65.890 GEORGIA +33,292 CALIFORNIA +20.123
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/25/1963715/-Guess-which-two-states-have-the-most-newly-unemployed-Hint-It-s-the-two-worst-governors?detail=emaildkre
Completely out of context lololol like a media headlineQuote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
BUT NOT MORE DEATHS FLORIDA STILL WINNINGQuote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
Here's the more important tidbit:Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
The highest insured unemployment rates in the week ending July 4 were in Puerto Rico (26.0), Nevada (21.3), Hawaii
(20.7), Georgia (18.0), California (16.9), Louisiana (16.6), New York (16.1), Connecticut (15.4), the Virgin Islands
(15.2), and Massachusetts (15.0).
I think that Florida is at 10.7% unemployment for June 2020.
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/lau...au_srd_tb2.f.p
He said "newly" unemployed for a specific reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by rmt
But hey great to see Puerto Rico recovering from the hurricane thanks to Trump's paper towels
Nobody gonna die. Fake pandemic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Blake excited though; he gets to be a useful cuck. :lmao
TheGreatYacht
pretty muchQuote:
Originally Posted by Blake
So, you think the CHANGE in number of unemployed from one week to the next is more important than the MONTHLY unemployment rate? Yeah, the headline is FL (due to its bad governor) has biggest weekly increase - not mentioning that overall FL's unemployment rate is lower than all those listed above. It ain't that bad - especially considering how RELIANT FL is on tourism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
he's really bad with numbers in his defenseQuote:
Originally Posted by rmt
It's doubtful any major leaguers will die, but killing you isn't the only way COVID-19 can fuck you up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurtacular
Not fake at all.
I'm not saying which is more important at the moment. I'm saying you put up a red herring.Quote:
Originally Posted by rmt
And they're fat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
:lol "deadly disease"
It's doubtful any major leaguers will die, but killing you isn't the only way COVID-19 can fuck you up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurtacular
Not fake at all.
The pedophiles and Satanic elites are torturing us until we beg for the vaccine. The fake plandemic is what Chumpettes always wanted. Let government dictate our livesQuote:
Originally Posted by Spurtacular
you want a strasserist nazi governmen thoQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
elaborate....Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Sure, even though you won't ever return the favor.Quote:
Originally Posted by tholdren
Here's one example:
https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/...450062849?s=19
Lung damage, kidney damage, DVTs +strokes have been observed during the course of illness in otherwise healthy people. Kawasaki-like inflammatory illness in children also seems to be correlelated with COVID-19.
It may be awhile before the causal pathways are determined -- or ruled out -- but the trend is worrisome.
Further study needed on heart disease/damage correlated with COVID-19
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2768916Quote:
Question What are the cardiovascular effects in unselected patients with recent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)?
Findings In this cohort study including 100 patients recently recovered from COVID-19 identified from a COVID-19 test center, cardiac magnetic resonance imaging revealed cardiac involvement in 78 patients (78%) and ongoing myocardial inflammation in 60 patients (60%), which was independent of preexisting conditions, severity and overall course of the acute illness, and the time from the original diagnosis.
Meaning These findings indicate the need for ongoing investigation of the long-term cardiovascular consequences of COVID-19.
It's well know at this point that this virus doesn't just cause respiratory problems, but can attack a number of organs (aka pan-organ). There's a high incidence of blood cloths, there's the 'covid-toes' skin condition, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
It's starting to look like COVID-19 is is a vascular disease too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
COVID-19 U-17(inclusive) new cases and child hospitalizations in FL up sharply in the last eight days:
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/...are-to-reopen/Quote:
On July 16, the state had a total of 23,170 children ages 17 and under who had tested positive since the beginning of the pandemic, according to the Florida Department of Health. By July 24, that number jumped to 31,150. That’s a 34% increase in new cases among children in eight days, CNN reported.
And more children in Florida are requiring hospitalization. As of July 16, 246 children had been hospitalized with coronavirus. By July 24, that number had jumped to 303. That’s a 23% increase in child Covid-19 hospitalizations in eight days.
But Sweden thoQuote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Yep didn't close the schools and no problemsQuote:
Originally Posted by Blake
Wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by tholdren
Problems.
No, I posted fatalities strat by ageQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
No problems
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by tholdren
Quote:
Originally Posted by tholdren
LiesQuote:
Originally Posted by tholdren
Some Countries Reopened Schools. What Did They Learn About Kids and Covid?
Studies from around the world suggest that
success depends on
class size,
distancing,
the age of the students, and
how prevalent the virus is locally.
https://www.wired.com/story/some-cou...ids-and-covid/
With the pandemic raging out of control in Trash/Repug states, sending their kids to school, and almost violating protective measures, will sicken and kill thousands.
iow, shitbag Repugs MISgovern their states yet again to be shitholes
possible implications for preschools
Quote:
Our final cohort included 145 patients with mild to moderate illness within 1 week of symptom onset. We compared 3 groups: young children younger than 5 years (n = 46), older children aged 5 to 17 years (n = 51), and adults aged 18 to 65 years (n = 48). We found similar median (interquartile range) CT values for older children (11.1 [6.3-15.7]) and adults (11.0 [6.9-17.5]). However, young children had significantly lower median (interquartile range) CT values (6.5 [4.8-12.0]), indicating that young children have equivalent or more viral nucleic acid in their upper respiratory tract compared with older children and adults (Figure). The observed differences in median CT values between young children and adults approximate a 10-fold to 100-fold greater amount of SARS-CoV-2 in the upper respiratory tract of young children.
[/QUOTE]https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2768952
Maybe the data/studies will be more valuable if schools are open everywhere.
We're treading really close to mass medical experimentation on children.
(*spidey-sense* tingles)
so what? Cases mean nothing. Your iq lowQuote:
Originally Posted by Splits
As the Coronavirus Comes to School, a Tough Choice: When to Close
As schools in the South and the Midwest reopen this week,
officials must decide what steps to take as staff members and students test positive.
the superintendent of the Elwood Community School Corporation sent out a note on Saturday thanking students and parents for“a great first two days of school!”
But the optimistic tone quickly gave way:
Several staff members had tested positive for the virus, he wrote, and
one employee at the high school had potentially exposed other staff members.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/us/school-closing-coronavirus.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_2020080 4&instance_id=20953&nl=the-morning®i_id=80821797&segment_id=35161&te=1&use r_id=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031
red states? What's not to ridicule! :lol
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...251-0/fulltext
some really good news from a preliminary Australian study on opening schools.
A number of caveats that the US no mask wearing “don’t you dare trace me, you can’t isolate me “, public would have trouble with
but encouraging for a small well done first study.
Jesus fucking Christ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splits
don't worry y'all, caseloads doesn't matter because "deaths are going down."
did I get that right, tholdren?
cool petri dishQuote:
Originally Posted by Splits
We deserve whatever comes from this, tbh.