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Unfortunately, the fetishizing of property isn't close to being a GOP-only issue. This country was built on the idea that property determined political power. In some ways it's gotten better, but in a lot of ways that idea continues to poison the American soul.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazymaddopeyo
I can see the people trying to protect property are the problem and not the looters and people burning down property.
They weren't shot for attacking property. They were shot because they are a violent mob and decided to attack the guy with a gun.
What property of his was Kyle protectiing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas_Ranger
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Originally Posted by Nathan89
This meme doesn't even make sense. Right wingers desperate to come out of this not looking like un patriotic racists.
U are walking down the street and see a guy throwing molotovs and destroying someones house or building. Do u do something?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Evil people are demonizing self defense. They want you to sit down and take the beating the leftist mob decides you deserve.
I am right I know. Maybe lets re distribute that money from millionaires and billionaires to everyone and we won't have to worry about money anymore. Way to ignore the part of a whole race being angry for being shit on for years and years and years and years. I think a bit of anger is healthy at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas_Ranger
So he wasn't protecting anything of his own. Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas_Ranger
I'd tell the cops in the armored car I was just talking to a couple minutes earlier.
You do know that the best place by far in the whole world to be black is usa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazymaddopeyo
But hey, if you want some comunism stuff i am sure they would be more happy in china.
BLM is a violent and racist movement.
Well that's a pleasant surprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan89
This kids life is ruined because people like you incite and empower others with hate and vitriol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan89
You destroyed this kids life because you’re a racist. Good job destroying the life of one of your own.
So every person who uses a gun in a negative way is the fault of the parent? Does that include all races?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
The people who don't give a shit are not watching them anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Taking a step back from whether or not he is guilty of murder (we don't have enough facts to know at this point), I don't see any legitimate defense for him being there. I think all of us here agree that the looting and the burning of businesses is unjust and we don't like it. But none of us are loading up our guns and going down there to protect property. I don't know the law in Wisconsin, but I'm betting that there is not a right to use deadly force to protect personal property or even real property that is being burned. Maybe if there was someone stuck inside a building and you were using deadly force to stop a crime where the consequence is death, then you have an excuse. But stopping robbers in a riot using deadly force is bad news for someone that doesn't even live in the state and drove their intentionally to protect property with a gun, which implies the intent to use deadly force.
Now we don't know if the people shot were agitators, protesters, or looters. So we don't know if he was really protecting property when he shot the three people. So while the kid may have been there to protect property, there is no evidence as of yet that he was shooting anyone to protect property. There is some indication in might be self defense, but a lot of that depends on why the first person shot was chasing him and if the kid heard a gun shot and thought he was returning fire, and if the kid provoked the violence.
But all of that is mute if the kid stayed home where he belonged. If the business owners feel passionately about using deadly force to protect their place of business, that is there choice and their consequences. If they chose to stay home, the kid should have done the same. That doesn't excuse the looting and the arson. Those are despicable. But even if the people shot had violent pasts or had criminal records or were sex offenders, the shooter didn't know that when he shot them and it was not a justification for being killed. Now if they were attacking the kid, especially the first guy, then that changes things. But we don't know the motives of everyone as of yet, so we have to find that out first to the best of what the evidence shows.
Just maybe it’s not a good idea for a 17 year old to have an assault rifle???
:lmao :lmao :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Texas_Ranger
I don't know that you can say that for sure, but it's certainly a bad idea for one to have one, go to a riot, and think that a situation won't arise where someone gets aggressive with him and he might shoot and kill them. It's an entirely predictable outcome and while 17 year olds are mostly naive, you'd think his parents would know if he left to another state with a gun intent on defending property. That can only end poorly and it has ended as poorly as could be imagined. If his defense can't come up with a legitimate case of self defense, he's going to jail for a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by TXstbobcat
Prove that was a BLM member.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan89
Imagine following Andy Ngo :lmao
this immature 17 year old kid made choices that knowingly put himself in the wrong place at the wrong time with an assault rifle. He was definitely looking for trouble and it found him. His life is now ruined and I think he is to blame for it based on his decision making.Quote:
Originally Posted by cd98
My point is that not all 17 year olds with an assault rife are going to do that, though this one definitely did.Quote:
Originally Posted by TXstbobcat
a friend of the guy that was shot in the arm said, that his friend told him he regrets not killing him and not emptying the entire mag in him... well unlucky. next time be faster faggot.