Celtics need a upgrade up front. We can try Gordon for one year and he comes off the books.
Trade Lamarcus and Metu for him.
Rotation
Jakob
Gordon
demar
white
murray
Patty
Keldon
Walker
Gay
Eubanks/Lyles
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Celtics need a upgrade up front. We can try Gordon for one year and he comes off the books.
Trade Lamarcus and Metu for him.
Rotation
Jakob
Gordon
demar
white
murray
Patty
Keldon
Walker
Gay
Eubanks/Lyles
Kuzma?
China doll.
no signifiact change, gordon more injury prone, no thank u
I am just thinking about possibilities. Honestly I am starting to think we should just run it back and let the young guys play more. Rudy, Demar, Lamarcus, and Patty will be off the books after next season. I really don’t think we can get much in the market for the expiring contracts anyway. We have a bunch of cap room next summer.
Actually not a bad idea, tbh. Celtics would welcome with open arms the idea of turning Hayward into a center of Aldridge's quality. Hayward doesn't have much value right now, but he's still better than the nothing we have at SF. We might be able to extend him at a cheap price to be our backup SF for the next 3 years. If we can get another piece on the trade then it would be a bonus (maybe add Murray and we might be able to get one of their first round picks on this upcoming draft).
Another good thing about this trade is that PATFO wouldn't feel like they are doing Aldridge dirty since they would be trading him to a contender in a big market.
Actually not a bad idea, tbh. Celtics would welcome with open arms the idea of turning Hayward into a center of Aldridge's quality. Hayward doesn't have much value right now, but he's still better than the nothing we have at SF. We might be able to extend him at a cheap price to be our backup SF for the next 3 years. If we can get another piece on the trade then it would be a bonus (maybe add Murray and we might be able to get one of their first round picks on this upcoming draft).
Another good thing about this trade is that PATFO wouldn't feel like they are doing Aldridge dirty since they would be trading him to a contender in a big market.
Murray for late Boston’s pick? No thx
I just want him traded before becoming a mediocre player doing 17 millions per year, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignazzz
I’ve been driving the Hayward to Spurs train for years now. Glad somebody is on my side lol bc these conversations have not gone well for me :lol
I think it's bit of a wash unless Boston gave up something and have no real incentive. Both on expiring contracts. Neither is really a long term building block (IMHO some may differ about Hayward).
Hayward is a long term building block if you own a medical rehab equipment company...Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddog
ive always liked hayward more than most. decent defender, good passer and shooter. would fit well here tbh... would make more sense if derozan were moved, though
I like the idea of bringing in Gordon, but the Spurs would resign him for 4 years ,100 million...pass
Yeah, I'm growing impatient with Murray too. No excuse for his handles or shooting to still be so raw four years into his career. If his work ethic matched his ego, he'd already be well worth that contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
I really like Gordon. He’s a scrappy, high IQ, deceptively athletic gym rat tbh.
I like Gordon but, I wouldn't make that trade unless they were attaching a late 1st.
The Celtics aren't giving up a jack of all trades big wing for a 5 year older big, when they've been fine playing center by committee with Theis/Williamses/Kanter (Theis and R. Williams in particular are solid).
If anything, the backup four minutes are a bigger issue (Ojeleye, G. Williams).
Ibaka for the MLE would be ideal as he'd kill two birds with one stone.
This would be decent haul for LMA tbh. Hayward really needs a change of scenery and a team that needs him more. He could be our poor man's Manu.Quote:
Originally Posted by smush
Wow...Ibaka is like 50 years old at this point. Hell noQuote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
This. At some point his luck will turnQuote:
Originally Posted by Play Boban
Ibaka is likely younger than Aldridge (his age has been questioned, but he's adamant it's true and either way I doubt it's off by 5 years) and has just had probably his two best seasons back to back.Quote:
Originally Posted by phxspurfan
He's primarily a center now, but can still play some four in certain matchups.
If not him, they (Celtics) can pursue Millsap or even someone like M. Williams.
Ibaka is about to turn 31, and playing great.Quote:
Originally Posted by phxspurfan
https://www.basketball-reference.com...ibakase01.html
He lies. He's not his stated age.Quote:
Originally Posted by R. DeMurre
Mills and Gay for Hayward works money wise.
Aldridge/a new PF/Hayward/DeRozan/White is a playoff team
Of course nobody would want Gay and Mills but we can dream lol
In terms of points and rebounds per 36 min., he had the best year of his career this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by phxspurfan
Aldridge with his trade kicker is only 27.6. Hayward is rounded up to about 34.2.
There's no way the Spurs are taking on that kind of money with this broke ownership amid the pandemic.
It would probably have to add players, and the one that makes the most sense is Mills as he's old friends with LMA and the backcourt was fine without him in the bubble. Spurs have to take someone else back of course, but the money has to be equal or the Spurs taking back less.
And the Celtics would have to throw in one of their firsts if the Spurs aren't as dumb as their recent trade history suggests.
One other thing that would make it unlikely ....
Whether or not it would/could make a difference, I don't know, but Hayward is MAGA. That may or may not affect Pop's willingness to go along with such a deal. If Pop is traded to the Nets then no problem.
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Originally Posted by exstatic
Shit. I was going to make a comment, but that says it all.
would rather send out demar, rudy, and murray to okc for cp3 and bazley.
then sign noel.
cp3 / patty
white / lonnie
bazley / keldon
la / luka
noel / poeltl
Good points but it will work with MetuQuote:
Originally Posted by objective
The MAGA stuff is interesting.
If you can get Hayward for trash I'm all for it. I don't think give away any of the good chips; maybe Luka though. I'm not as yet sold on him.
no thanks ... we will have enough problems keeping Derrick White healthy ...
Great point.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
I don't think he is a great building block even with good health. IF healthy he's a good addition to a team that's almost there.
Exactly, it’s like people weren’t watching the Celtics. Center is not one of their concerns. Theis played well this year, and Kanter is fine as a backup big (if he opts in).Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Ibaka for the MLE is the exact move I’d make especially if you could trade Aldridge for a big wing (and keep Poeltl). Alternatively, if you can find a S&T partner for Poeltl if you prefer to keep Aldridge. Ibaka should play mostly at the 5 and can stretch the floor, but excelled last year - albeit in limited minutes - playing alongside Gasol, so can spot you some minutes as a big lineup 4.
Glass Joe Gordon just got hurt reading this thread and is going to be out an additional 4 to 6 weeks
Ibaka for the MLE is fine. Ibaka for LMA is dumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by cjw
I meant Ibaka for the Celtics.Quote:
Originally Posted by cjw
I don't really see it for the Spurs, who'd have to create cap space to interest him (obviously not worth the trouble). If not for being able to offer significantly more than the MLE, there's no reason he'd want to sign with a non contender.