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You heard it here first. :wakeup
Only as a 3rd party
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Hope so. Time to do something different.
I am done voting for another corporate Democrat.
Until your next choice is another corporate Democrat.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
which would guarantee a republican landslide tbh. Rust belt would give her a solid 20% as a third party (independent, green party, etc) and almost all of those stolen from the Dems.Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
Nope. I ignored a lot of arguments from hard-core leftists saying they were not going to give their votes to Democrats because they were being ignored.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursforSix
I have always been fairly pragmatic, and thought myself strategic. I was wrong.
Same, I think she'd do very well. She isn't your typical old out of touch Democrat, she appeals to minorities, young people, and women.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
Not happening. She won't have cross party appeal to conservatives like Biden has shown so decisively.
but, Kamala will be the incumbent by 2024, not Alzheimers JoeQuote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
i like her but given the outcome of this election, it's clear she is far too progressive for America still. maybe 2028
she'll be as hated as hillary by the southQuote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
She won't have nice tits in 2028. Better go for 2024.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Kony
Maybe Soros and Justice Democrats can splurge for her enhancements.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Neither did ObombaQuote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Its the independents....
So if in 4 years, if it's Biden vs. whoever, you're going to abstain?Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
Biden has Alzheimers dude... It will be Kamala.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursforSix
I give Uncle Joe a year tops before he's a vegetable and Kamala is president, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Millennial_Messiah
Not the point retard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Millennial_Messiah
Tell me again how that worked out this time?Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
I think it it time to stop repeating the same losing strategy and hoping it will work somehow differently. Dunno.
President Sniffles McAdderal is worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Millennial_Messiah
Poeple ding Biden, but a lot of what they go after is just a by-product of having to work around a stutter, IMO.
It was a joke about Karrin and DMC pretending they'd vote Democrat if they just weren't so damn socialistQuote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
Trump is history dude. Time to move forward. Biden is president but for how long?! Kamala taking power is an inevitability, not a possibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
Wanna take bets on when Trump will concede? I say he should today.
*should*Quote:
Originally Posted by Millennial_Messiah
But
won't.
I think you are underestimating his mental illness.
my bet is it goes to the courts, where he will hope the Angriff des Steiner will succeed in pushing him into another term.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Detachment_Steiner
(if you listen carefully to that famous hitler rant video he references "Angriff Steiner" (Steiner's attack)
It will be about as successful.
neocon, neoliberal, center-right, corporatist BigDollar Dem establishment person is the only candidate you will see.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
(nods)Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
Fucked... but I am still out on unfuckable.
At this point, I think the oligarchy may truly be unbeatable. In the end, you may indeed be right. Many here will owe you an apology when or if that finally becomes clear.
Abstain? Dunno. I really don't think I will vote for another corporate Democrat . Democratic party needs to get off its ass and run on policy, and quite apologizing for it. Fascists will scream communism no matter how mild sauce they go, might as well make it about ideas, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursforSix
I will vote for down ballot local races, but the Democratic party decides to weak sauce it again, fuck it.
Elena would have brought them over tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Sorry but AOC is too into the woke shit and too liberal on immigration.
YANG GANG 2024
Yang is for stimulus for all? universal basic income? would that abolish other welfare and medicaid?Quote:
Originally Posted by Will Hunting
Yang's from Taiwan, would be too easy to tie to the Chinese CCP for Trump's low information voter base.Quote:
Originally Posted by Will Hunting
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Originally Posted by Will Hunting
(shrugs) They aren't crossing over anyway. 1/2 the country will believe just about any lie anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Most of it would. Would still need universal healthcare, but yes, that would obviate welfare and food stamps, if set to the right level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Millennial_Messiah
lol you'll tow the party line like you always doQuote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
AOC 2024?
:lol
Please do.
Yep wouldn't cross over like you would have for Elena amirite?Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
Different game entirely.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
We step to the right and tell Dems they need to move towards the new center :lol
You mean sprint to the rightQuote:
Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
Not 2024 but could see it in 2028. She's still very young.
again with the honesty. you are harshing my buzz man.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.
"trump's a fascist"... cry cry cry yet here yall are wanting a real fascist in the WH as she sits already in congress. how fucking ironic.
:lol you thinking she isn't intelligent.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.
you have been lied to about how smart she actually is, and your rush to dismiss her because she is a woman leads you to accept that lie uncritically. You revel in making fun of her because of that lie.
nah she's a fucking retard who wears fake hipster glasses on the hill to try and come across as intelligent. she ain't nothing but a pitcher's mitt with tits.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
you have calf tats thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by koriwhat
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by RD2191
She'll never get it.. the democrats don't even like her or her bullshit
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by RD2191
Yeah trying to tea party her way to power while giving the R's their new Boogeyman, seems to have turned a few of them offQuote:
Originally Posted by DJR210
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Originally Posted by RD2191
:lmao
Democrats won't still that election for her; but I could be wrong.
Candace Owens 2024 imo
You remind me of Trump thinking if you tell a lie enough people will start to accept it as truth. 2020 has proven that hard core democrats are the party of civil violence. Seattle, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
As for AOC, she is a moderately attractive parrot for her justice league buddies. She isn't stupid, but will always be on the fringe of her party like tea party republicans.
The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
I call it like I see it. You, like most people who self identify as conservative cannot have an honest discussion about... well just about anything.
I can prove my point with simple questions on just about anything. I can ask about right wing violence and get you to be dishonest pretty much in the same stroke.
You will prove my point for me.
Political terrorist attacks in the US are pretty much exclusively right wing.
Yes or no?
you’re trying to break the irony meter.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Blind Party of trump supporter.
Steve Scalise says hi. what Republican terrorist attacks are you referring to?Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
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Originally Posted by RandomGuy
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
I said you would prove my point for me.
You proved my point for me. You all can't help yourselves, smh. dishonesty. and violence.
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
Speaking of evading the question. :lol
What republican terrorist acts are you referring to?
Go on. Tell me that your post didn't prove my point.
You called it a lie, then went right out the first chance you got, and proved it out.
The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.
I did not refer to any "republican" terrorist attacks. I said "right wing terrorist" attacks. I thought you could read. Perhaps I was mistaken?Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
OK. Those right wing BLM and Antifa? :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
The easy answer to your dishonest question, is "none".Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
You really want me to google "right wing terrorist attacks" and provide you with dozens of links?
A 2017 report by The Nation Institute and Center for Investigative Reporting looked at the terrorist incidents in the US between 2008 and 2016.[13] It found:[14]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror..._United_StatesQuote:
115 Far right inspired terror incidents. 35% of these were foiled (meaning no attack happened) and 29% resulted in fatalities. These terror incidents caused 79 deaths.
63 Islamist inspired terror incidents. 76% of these were foiled (meaning no attack happened) and 13% resulted in fatalities. These terror incidents caused 90 deaths.
19 incidents inspired by left-wing ideologies (and eco-terrorism). 20% of these were foiled (meaning no attack happened) and 10% resulted in fatalities. These terror incidents caused 7 deaths.
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The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.
"I am going to attempt to prove the core of modern conservatism is not dishonest by lying repeatedly"Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
That is your thinking on this? smh.
Enjoying watching you duck and dodge and your inability to link republican conservatives to violence as you claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
Already directly answered your question. None. I did not ask about Republican terrorist attacks. That is a lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.
I asked about right wing terrorist attacks.
It's a two party system. Would "right wing" be Democrats?Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
Most would not qualify. Some centrists would be moderate right-wingers, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
The Republican party has driven out moderates. It is directly tilting actively fascist.
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Moderates tend to not commit terrorist attacks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_El_Paso_shooting
The anti-immigrat nutter that went on a rampage in El Paso was neither Democrat, nor Republican, having criticized both parties for being to lax on immigrants.
He was a white nationalist right winger, who viewed the Republican party as not right wing enough.
More evasion and inability to list specific instances of right wing political terror, even as I gave you a specific instance of Democrat political terror.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
I gave you as honest an answer as I could.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
What is evasive about this answer?
I essentially said "no". "most would not qualify as right wing, and those that would, are very moderately so"Quote:
It's a two party system. Would "right wing" be Democrats?
You did not list any "specific instance" of political terror.
Sorry. You essentially waved your hand and said "BLM ANTIFA BAD".
That is not a specific instance. I think that is just you repeating a talking point for the cult you belong to as if it is true, prima fascie.
Sorry I do not buy your cults assertions, unless supported by evidence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rorist_attacksQuote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
So let's start with something recent:
October 2018 United States mail bombing attempts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octobe...mbing_attempts
From October 22 to November 1, 2018, sixteen packages found to contain pipe bombs were mailed via the U.S. Postal Service to several Democratic Party politicians and other prominent critics of U.S. President Donald Trump. Targets included former U.S. President Barack Obama, former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden, and former U.S. Senator and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
Poway synagogue shooting
he Poway synagogue shooting occurred on April 27, 2019, when a gunman armed with an AR-15 style rifle[1] fired shots inside the Chabad of Poway synagogue in Poway, California,[2][3] a city approximately 20 miles (32 km) north of San Diego. The attack took place on the last day of the Jewish Passover holiday, which fell on a Shabbat.[4] One woman was killed and three other people were injured, including the synagogue's rabbi.[5][6] After fleeing the scene, the alleged gunman phoned 9-1-1 and reported the shooting. He was apprehended in his car approximately two miles (3.2 km) from the synagogue by a San Diego police officer.
After arraignment in late 2019, Earnest was scheduled to be tried on multiple state charges in June 2020; the state announced it would seek the death penalty. The federal government had also filed hate crime charges. The trial was originally intended to start in June 2020, but it was delayed until at least March 15, 2021, due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
Anti-Semitism is not political terror.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
next
I could go on for several pages listing various right wing terrorist attacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
I have you one direct Republican terrorist attack, the MAGA bomber.
How many do you wish to have?
The right wing terrorist who attacked the synagogue had direct political motives, with the political goal of creating a pure white, Christian nation, free of jews.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
You are attempting to be dishonest, and claiming that anti-semetic attacks are not political, when they are almost always explicity political, with the policy goal of an ethnically pure theocratic state.
Would you like to read his published manifesto, in which he outlined his political goals?Quote:
An anti-semitic and racist open letter was posted on 8chan shortly before the shooting and signed with Earnest's name.[24] It said that Jews were preparing a "meticulously planned genocide of the European race", a white genocide conspiracy theory. In the alleged shooter's manifesto, he denied that he had learned anti-semitic beliefs from his family.[25]
Earnest is believed to have written the letter, in which he cited shooters Brenton Tarrant and Robert Bowers for their involvement in the Christchurch mosque shootings and the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, respectively. He said that Jesus, Paul the Apostle, Martin Luther, Adolf Hitler, Ludwig van Beethoven, "Moon Man" and Pink Guy were figures who inspired him to commit the shooting. Earnest made a joking mention of PewDiePie and referenced "The Day of the Rope", an event from William Luther Pierce's neo-Nazi novel The Turner Diaries (1978), in which African Americans and Hispanics are executed and urged more violent attacks.[24] He condemned President Donald Trump as a pro-Zionist traitor
A mentally ill homeless guy that had been butt fucked by a priest as a child and been previously arrested 9 times. What could possibly go wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
So it is starting to sink in. Your attempt at the No True Scotsman fallacy shows that you are beginning to realize I have a point about the level of right wing violence.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.
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No true Scotsman, or appeal to purity, is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect a universal generalization from counterexamples by changing the definition in an ad hoc fashion to exclude the counterexample.
Anyhoo, I got other shit to do today.
Thank you for proving my point about the core of modern conservatism being dishonesty at least. The violence, speaks for itself, IMO.
LMGIFY
https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=...wing+terrorism
Painting all conservatives as violent because of a few mentally ill individuals is the epitome of dishonesty. It would be like me claiming you were violent because of the actions of a violent left wing antifa supporter.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
I should be clear:Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Not all conservatives are violent. Most aren't. The vast majority aren't.
Not all conservatives are liars. Most are fairly honest.
I am saying that the core ideology seems to encourage dishonesty. and violence.
The fact that I can't have a single honest conversation with any self-identifying conservative convinces me of that.
The underlying violent streak shows up in the overwhelming urge to mock and/or belittle. It is a mild form of bullying.
You have bean provably dishonest, and mocking.
I don't think you even can have an honest discussion these days. Your "fight or flight" mechanism kicks in, you get slightly angry, and stop thinking.
Tell me you didn't get peeved here. Did you?
Nope, didn't get peeved. Just finally made you admit your broad generalities were wrong. Took a few posts but you finally admitted it.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
Not really.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
I do think I should be a bit more clear though. It seems you have misunderstood me and we are/were talking past each other.
The core of modern conservative ideology encourages dishonesty. and violence.
I told you social democrats you would be better off voting for Trump over Biden. That was honesty but you didn't want to hear it.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
Now you're saying never again but it's too late. You fucked yourselves :lol
Biden was the better choice than Trump. No regrets on that, and would do it again in a heart beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
:lol dishonest piece of shit voting advice. Sersiously, go fuck off to the edge of fuckville, to the sign that says "no fucking off past this point" and keep going.
The truth always makes you so angry :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
:lol The core of modern conservatism is dishonesty. and violence.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
You want me to be angry, so you make up a lie in your mind that I am.
You can't even be honest with yourselves.
Or maybe especially with yourselves. smh.
The demographics probably need to change more for her to have a shot. At least 2032 IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Kony
i have tattoos all over my body you stupid fuck and wgaf anyhow about tattoos on anyone? your insults are as lame as your pol ideology you pussy.Quote:
Originally Posted by RD2191
you're a pussy bro so it's no surprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
... and back on ignore. You're a worthless human being. No one will miss you when you die, and few will care to bother remembering you. that is... sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by koriwhat
I hope you find some modicum of happiness though.
2024 ticket
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I don't care which is on top
You say that, but I hear:Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
"I didn't get enough nepotism and rank incompetence in the first trump term, I want more Trumps in office, because monarchy, that's why"
You only hear that because your an idiotQuote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
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Originally Posted by RD2191
:rollin this never gets oldQuote:
Originally Posted by koriwhat
Sadly, Spurs tats these days are like having Memphis grizzly calf tats.
A misspelling followed by calling someone an idiot never gets old. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
What about my idiot? Are you volunteering?Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
I don’t think this country will ever vote for a socialist, especially in the swing states.
That must be why Katie Porter won her race in a red district by 10 points while the centrists who won swing districts in 2018 got their teeth kicked in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelicans78