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The trend line seems incredibly arbitrary. I can't imagine that an actual trend line would be so steep when most data points on the left side are UNDER it and on the right side there only 2 data points and they are WAY ABOVE it. SMH. Very biased graph, not rooted in math at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by ace3g
The DPS and OPA is likely based on a 48 minute scale.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebellmaniac
DPS league best is probably +12, your y axis maximum. League worst is -26.
OPA league best is +26, your x axis maximum. League worst is -12.
Slope is then connected from both (max y, min x), (max x, min y) coordinates
Say what? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
Uh, yeah. That is exactly how you do NOT do a trend line. That isn't a trend line at all. Just some arbitrary line that they justified in drawing. Pretty meaningless. Doesn't give me much faith in the rest after knowing how they came up with the "trend" line, which is what you would assume it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
That's not a trend line. It's there to indicate anyone above the line is a net positive player, anyone below it is a net negative...Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebellmaniac
It doesn't indicate that either, mathematically it doesn't. Only using some arbitrary Maximum and Minimum values to create that line is not a valid way to determine who is a net positive player and net negative. I mean, if that is the definition you want to use, sure, that can mean that. But in reality it has no meaningful purpose in helping identify net positive and net negative players.Quote:
Originally Posted by pad300
A waste of time to create, actually. And we are all dumber for having looked at it...
I didn't mean to say it was a trend line. I'm just saying that's how it kinda looks like.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebellmaniac
I'm not blaming you, I'm just saying that NBA Math has nothing to do with math on that graph. And that line is misleading, for whatever purpose it serves. Unless it is meant to mislead, then it does a good job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
I really get the impression you don't understand the math he's doing (note, I am not endorsing this math, but this is what he's doing).Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebellmaniac
https://nbamath.com/tpa-model/
Essentially BPM (adjusted box -score plus minus) can be broken into defensive and offensive portion. It is then adjusted to make all the players compared on a per 100 possessions basis... that gives you DPS and OPA. Those added together give you TPA (which is the player's net +/- per 100 possessions on the floor) ... The diagonal line that bugs you is where TPA = 0, above that line TPA >0.
When his shot starts going in he’ll be incredible. Very impressive.
Its good hes getting this experience early
Considering that there was no SL and he got drafted just a couple of months before the season started, he's been nothing short of incredible of defense.
Amazing defensive IQ, great rotations, deflections and hustle. Also looks really good on the glass.
Definitely 1st team all-defense player in a couple of years.
His shot looks smooth, I think it's just a matter of confidence on offense. He still stops and just passes the ball away, probably scared of Pop yelling at him. :lol
Perfect SG/SF for the modern game.
Hopefully he still keeps his minutes when Derrick comes back.
Another solid game for the rookie.
he is consistently showing he is a legit NBA PLAYER.
defense comes so naturally to him, its really quite impressive for a rookie. scoring department needs some work though.
That block on Kanter was great. He showcased a Khris Middletonesque pull up J from mid-range in garbage time, too.
its a big ask for his offensive game to progress as well as Middleton's but that should definitely be the targetQuote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
if anything he has a better shot coming out of college than middleton did
This guy has it........a soft spoken KILLER! He is something to mold like Keldon/Kawhi
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Hope this closes the book on who is taller between KJ and DV. Look at their shoulder height.
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D. Vassell has now recorded 1 steal or more in 10 straight games for the Spurs. #nbahttps://abs.twimg.com/hashflags/NBAL...eague_2021.png #gospursgo
Yup, this is the play I was talking about:Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
https://www.nba.com/stats/events/?Ga...0Shot&sct=plot
Practice that shot over the offseason and we'll have a hell of a player.
Dude, these formulas and graphs are created with the help of professional mathematicians. Are you one of those? If not, you should STFO, tbh. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by bluebellmaniac
Devin is the best looking Rookie since Kawhi.
Oh good, professional mathematicians. Who are some of those who contributed?Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Can't say? Then STFU, tbh ... LOL!
Tbh if Vassell were getting the same minutes as rookie Kawhi, he will have better numbers. Rookie Kawhi while very good defensively, likewise Devin is, he was very timid in scoring, which is not the case for Vassell. Vassell is not shy to let them fly with hands in his face.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
Sean always talks about the development curve for a player when the game slows down for him. The game has been slow for Devin since game one. That’s what makes him unique. That is not the norm for a rookie.