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Meh, I am by no means an LMA fan but the year Kawhi bitched up He pretty much dragged a bad Spurs team to the playoffs. He came up big in a lot of games then down the stretchQuote:
Originally Posted by Chomag
That was 3 years ago and that LMA is LONG gone now though
On a positive note, did Kedon just have a way better all around game 26/10 at the age of 21 than nephew did by the time he was like 24 or so? And he's playing LeBron and other all-stars.
Always... everytime he chokes, it's someone else's fault...if Toronto kept him, they'd still be ringless playoff failures that no one takes seriouslyQuote:
Originally Posted by Kurgan
Really any Spurs fan that focuses on what DeMar, LMA, or Rudy do all season is just asking to be angry and not enjoy this season. Just hope for good development from KJ, DJ, Derrick, and Lonnie. Everything else is irrelevant.
White hasn't proven he can do that consistently either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robz4000
Lol so much truth but dickless Bynumite will still be dickless.Quote:
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
FYI
Milwaukee, Miami, and Dallas has or had (they played tonight) a 2-3 record.
You quitters thinking this is a lottery team are going to eat your words again.
I was on the fence, but I'll go bold and say it like I see it: this is a playoff team.
This is basically the perfect loss, not sure why people are upset other than it's the Fakers :lol
Keldon balled out, Derrick is back, and another reminder that they shouldn't pay Derozan. All while getting closer to a lottery pick. Great f'n game tbh.
Devin DNP? WTF? How was this kid not useful?
Hell, at this point, I think I would take Yawn Mahinmi.Quote:
Originally Posted by daslicer
OK, maybe not.
But our frontcourt is pathetic right now.
I agree and have been saying that all along. The vets are the only thing holding this team back, sure there will still be allot of growing pains to come for sure but I would love to see how this team progress without these old guys holding them back.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpurPadre
Yup against lesser teams, that’s a win. Keldon is a certified stud, not backing down from LeBron/Davis. The kid knows he belongs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
Cheer up buddy. At least your spurs covered the +7.5. So they're not completely useless i guess :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by timtonymanu
Yeah but I think their development would be better with those vets traded to contenders.Quote:
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
Instead of White and Devin, we had White and Patty lolQuote:
Originally Posted by paperboy77
:lol at you fools talking lottery
Top 4 team in the West. Book it.
It's the Fakers losing to these chodes will always suck but you are right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
They really need to explore getting an asset for Rudy or Patty tbh.
I love Patty to death but it can be a win-win if the Spurs can nab a late 1st rounder for him and he gets to go to a contender.
What's your problem? You're a DeRozan and Aldridge suckup? How can anyone watch them play and say "yeah, more of that for my team please"? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Collins21
This fucking loser again who has nothing else to do than spend time on a board who gives no shits what he thinksQuote:
Originally Posted by Bynumite
KJ needs to stay in that starting lineup.
Also, got to find a way to get Devin time now that White is back. Take some minutes from Lonnie and Murry just to give the rookie 5-10 minutes.
Repeat after me, "He needs to get over himself."Quote:
Originally Posted by paperboy77
Sure, the Spurs are below .500 now but Kirby is below 6ft so it's a toss-up IMO :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Bynumite
I didn't expect a win against the champs so it's whatever but you'll still be up here obsessing over my team, win or lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bynumite
You obviously care about what i think, since you insist on following me around and replying to my posts :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
I think as the trade deadline approaches they will be some contenders willing to flip draft picks for some of the Spurs vets. Just have to wait for teams to become desperate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
He's a top for sure, imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by John B
Draft 2 strong, long PF/Cs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
Devin should not be getting dnp's... You don't do that with a lottery puck
So much bitching in a development year. Keldon just had 26-10.
You're on the game thread that just ended 10 minutes ago. Nobody's following you around. Is this how stupid you are?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bynumite
I'm with you on LMA (I'd be willing to move Gay too) but I don't see a trade with a contender that makes sense for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpurPadre
Nah they need to be able to compete and they cannot do it without the veteransQuote:
Originally Posted by SpurPadre
Was a good game and fun to watch.
Poeltl should not be a starter, we overpaid. He cant shoot make free throws and refuses to dunk. Spurs win this game had LMA been playing instead of Poeltl tonight.
This game would've been won with Ma Touches even with Demar's usual 4th quarter misses. Still doesn't change the fact that we should trade both of them by the deadline.
Jak has started every season with the Spurs slow AF tbh. I'm not too worried about him provided he can stay out of foul trouble. Lakers are a terrible matchup for him.
Somebody..." Todays NBA needs no Centers" The fr4eaking Lakers won the title based on big boy ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
Everyone was swayed by GS in the last few years. NOBODY is as gifted as Stef. I see all these videos of how people can relate cuz of his size. Hell, I see it at the park all the time. These kids hiring "coaches/trainers" cuz they think they can be Curry. LOLOLOLOLOL!
Had to make room for Patty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chomag
No one is not acknowledging that. So we are good long-term at SG/SF. That doesn't mean you don't discuss fixing remaining problems; like guys refusing to move the ball to the open shooter.Quote:
Originally Posted by rankingtear
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
At least trade one of them but I'd rather trade them all. They deserve a shot at rings, especially LMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by mo7888
Steph isn't even Steph when there isn't another Steph next to him. No one intelligent likes to look at small ball, let alone actually run with it as a strategy. Length is damn near everything when it comes to preventing the other team from scoring.Quote:
Originally Posted by paperboy77
Dejounte/Lonnie/Keldon have all really impressed so far this year at different itmes. Adding Derrick back into the mix and this has been a pretty damn good start to the year so far IMO regardless of a meaningless record.
Excited to watch this team continue to get better this season...
I agree--Pop giving a lottery pick a DNP with this roster we've got is shameful bullshit.
If you can't play your big vs a team with other bigs, what can you do with him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
What contender will give up anything for him?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpurPadre
I could see sacto offering Barnes and a pick or Woodard but, I wouldn't consider them contenders.
They were given that shot last year. We need to rebuild. Next year's draft is loaded.Quote:
Originally Posted by John B
Does Keldon's mom have brothers?
The Dubs were willing to give up the #2 pick for LMA before Klay went down. So, interest is there.Quote:
Originally Posted by mo7888
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Originally Posted by SpurPadre
IDK, part of me thinks we finally have the team that can complement DDR and LMA. The only thing that made them strange is that they occupied the same space but if both of them have bought into spreading the floor with a 3 point shot. We have the slashers/defenders/passers who can shoot to back them up now.
Lakers have 3 starting quality centers tbh, probably a 4th if you wanted to play LeBron there.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
Jakob is soft (especially when he's been a slow starter every season as a Spur) but he's fine as a starting quality center in today's soft ass NBA tbh. Just needs his reps.
It's okay to say the word 'uncle'. That word is not banned from ST :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
Devin needs to take 5 minutes away from both patty and rudy. That's an easy 10m
I've only been burned by a maternal uncle though, so that's all I was worried about. Now you have me scared of uncles in general. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
Just that word alone gets me worried.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
So many games come down to execution, shot making in the last 4 minutes.
Spurs are not yet crunch time performers.
Yooo, we need to figure this out. What is with Jak and the "no dunking" thing? That shit has cost us a lot of points this year already. I don't like it.
At this point I am for real down for mass bullying this guy on social media until he starts going up strong.
So you agree with me that size matter in basketball. There's still room for a talented big.Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
BTW, all you hear nowadays is that the NBA is about position-less ball. Big's don't matter.
Not as optimistic as I was after Tuesday. The Spurs have talent, though, and they should have a chance to beat LAC.
Walker was passive again. He had some passes where you'd think you were watching 2K because he'd be in the middle of a drive and all of the sudden contort and throw the ball to a random teammate. He needs to accept that he's going to get blocked or stripped from time to time and to just go for it. There's a difference between passing when he gets an open man for a better shot and passing to avoid shooting. For the most part, Lonnie did the latter. I don't know that speed is going to be his defensive asset. He overran a number of plays to leave guys open. The way he was benched after that Schroeder three, it seems like he missed a big rotation. Right now, he's neither solid or spectacular. Still, his lack of spot-up opportunities over the past two games was alarming. He passed up a wide-TF-open three and missed another, but he basically didn't get any chances against the Lakers. Getting him open three looks needs to be the priority for an SL that doesn't really have bona-fide shooters.
Murray was a little better in how controlled he played, but there were still possessions where he'd randomly call his own number and burp up a shot. He needs to be honest with himself about when him being aggressive is the best thing for the team. Right now, it's not as often as he thinks it is.
Johnson competed and had better results in terms of scoring. He and the rest of the team figured out an effective way to stop James from scoring efficiently, but they lack the ability to stop him from passing well. I think moving Johnson to Davis was the right call even though that's an impossible size disparity. He's doing nothing to make Pop not play him a PF for the regular season. But I still worry about his ability to do it physically for a season. I think he'll have inconsistent energy from the strain, but that's not fair to judge after Williamson and James/Davis for three straight games.
White was good defensively. A lot of other fans think he's bad money on his new deal. But even in limited minutes and with meh offense, it's clear that the only way that's true is if his injuries consume him. He's an awesome defender mentally, and he used him body really well to guard James. His hands and instincts also let him help effectively. The defensive ceiling of the team is so much higher when he plays. Pop's going to have to decide how to make his rotation, though. I like the idea of a full bench unit eventually with Vassell getting a role. That means one of the ball-handlers has to come off the bench. I don't think it should be White, but that's probably the one Pop would most rather put there. It's a weird idea that the team may be too young to justify a full 10-man rotation. But I do think it's worth doing.
Poeltl was fine. He was benched because no one can stop Davis. The Spurs need to use him more on offense as a passer. If Poe had even Eubanks' level of shooting, he'd be a very good high-post player. As it is, he's probably best as a short-roller. He needs to score better, but it's clear the Lakers adjusted to the open looks he was getting. That's part of the reason why he can't just be a finisher on offense.
Eubanks wasn't really that bad either. He's a third center who should really see big minutes anyway, so him having to play half the game multiple games in a row isn't fun. But he competed on both ends and didn't look too much worse than Harrell. Not a good performance, but he didn't look disappointing.
The team needs Aldridge.
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Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
Just another typical non American born softy. Would rather have Tiago right now.
Let's face it, Pop has always hated dunking.Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
Interesting how Eubanks got so many minutes.
You don't need a gun either until one is pointed at you. People are dumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by paperboy77
If we moved Tim's and Shaq's brains into KAT's and Ayton's bodies, it'd be the 2000s all over again.
I mean, it is dumb, considering you can't touch the rim while the ball is in it, but you don't play by a rule that no one else plays by. He and Jakob are pretty much the only people who care about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpurPadre
Hes the reason why I dont want White to come off the bench. Dude just chucks and chucks and freezes out teammatesQuote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
If we're all about giving youth a shot then you give it to those with a modicum of NBA talent. Lyles, as bad as he is, should get more minutes than Eubanks because he can at least make shots and has done so more than a guy who went undrafted for a good reason. I mean, Samanic should get more minutes than Eubanks. We shouldn't be wasting our time with that guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Truth #6
Richaun Holmes & Bjelica would do, though...Quote:
Originally Posted by mo7888
I think they'll insist on Barnes to offload future salary.Quote:
Originally Posted by R. DeMurre
What can Portland give us besides a 1st round pick for LMA?
Yeah I have the opinion that White regress last year because Gay goes into iso mode and freeze out White.Quote:
Originally Posted by KobesAchilles
And LAC just lost
My observations:
- Start of the 4th quarter. For the first 3 minutes of the final stanza, I thought the Spurs were putrid offensively. Many will point to late game execution but thought the seeds were sown then for the L.
- Rudy Singularity Gay. Defensively, I thought he has been solid the last 2 games but that Offense...Trust your teammates!!
- D White impacts the game positively whether he shoots the ball well or not. Missed that guy. Give him 5 - 10 games and he will be back up to speed.
- KJ. Holy cow! DDR has been solid and is shooting the ball well but I think we know who has the 3 spot on lock for the next decade.
Kudos to all the early adopters. KJ is awesome.
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Originally Posted by Chinook
One thing that was great about Keldon tonight was his adjustment to pull up instead of barrel through and pick up a charge. I saw at least one floater and some other adjustments to get a good shot off.
https://media.tenor.com/images/de633...70d3/tenor.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by PhantomDashCam
Coffee.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpurPadre
If the most important thing this year is development-- a theory I actually agree with-- than why are DeRozan & Eubanks getting a combined 61 minutes while Vassell gets zero? What's getting developed there?
I wouldn't call the no call on DD, the no call on the goaltend, and the no call on lebron's charge a choke job.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpurPadre
Yeah and that amazing euro step he did and scored over Davis iircQuote:
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
Lonnie, Murray, Keldon, Poetl, White are all being developed.Quote:
Originally Posted by R. DeMurre
Not a popular opinion, but those three wouldn't look as good if they were thrown out there from year one.
Obviously, but that's not my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
That's what people mean when they say this year is development... I think that is your point. You're focused on one rook.Quote:
Originally Posted by R. DeMurre
LakerRef lets Bron-Bron commit offensive foul after offensive foul ala Shaq.
NBA = shitty product.
I think they learn in competitive games than from garbage minutes, that means matching the bigs with Eubanks. But instead of Vassell, Luka and Diop shouldve some burn. Spurs seriously need help on bigs, either thru PNR or they wouldnt guard our bigs.Quote:
Originally Posted by R. DeMurre
I'm going to bust a myth...
When people say, "the vets (DeMar, LMA, Rudy) are in the way of the young guys", I think they need to choose their words better.
The young guys are getting ample time and opportunity. They're getting enough shots for themselves (except in crunch time, I guess).
I'd say the better wording is... "The vets are in the way of us winning."
Though I wouldn't even say that's applicable for ALL games we lose. They do help us win sometimes.
We'll upgrade from these guys soon enough. For now, it's exciting to watch the development of our young trio.
Nope. I'm focused on all the young guys who will plausibly play important roles in the future... and that's not DeRozan or Eubanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
Vassell is going through what all our rookies have historically gone through. He's had opportunities and through those opportunities he's shown he's not on the level of rooks who are too impactful NOT to play (Timmy D, Kawhi, Parker). He's decent, but he's got a lot to learn. Because of this, his minutes are going to be spotty, unless he learns to make the most of his minutes. So far, his handle is a liability out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by R. DeMurre
Your comments are good about Walker. But I think it needs to be added, the coaching seems to have screwed him up. Those drives you mention, where he contorts and passes, I don't think that kind of thing is his own original idea. He's been overcoached to be a playmaker, is what it looks like to me. Too bad that nobody can tell Pop to go bother somebody else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
Murray's better, as you say, but he's still impulsive. Not surprising. More experience is the best teacher for that.
Keldon, the only thing to say is, keep playing him!
White stepped in, and was easily recognizable as the same player. Good to see.
I have to disagree. As a starting 7' center on an NBA team he was not fine at all. If he isn't good enough to compete with the best, he is not good enough for the Spurs, except maybe as a backup. Maybe.Quote:
Poeltl was fine. ...
Eubanks ... tried. Can't fault his effort. But there's lots of players who have tried their best, and are not in the NBA.
The team needs a young big man who can play the darn game.Quote:
The team needs Aldridge.
:lol I'm going to bust a myth too: a bunch of young players watching DeRozan have the worst body language on the team, emphasize offense over defense, play hero ball in late 4th quarter scenarios, and have a decade's worth of terrible advanced stats that incredibly get even worse come playoff time are not going to "develop" faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
It's fine to hate on DeMar like that (scratch that. Just don't copy duncan2k5's repetitive ass), but to say our young guys are being influenced by DeMar and that their destinies are being controlled by DeMar ... makes it seem as if they're stupid and easily influenced. That's a lack of accountability and I call it BS. They're in control of their own destiny. They're fully grown adults.Quote:
Originally Posted by R. DeMurre
Like I said, they're getting plenty of opportunities.
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Originally Posted by Dejounte
I don't hate Demar at all. He seems like a pretty cool guy. I just don't think he can play a prominent role on a championship team. And I said nothing about the young guys being too easily influenced or lacking in ability to make smart decisions-- I was simply pointing out the obvious shortcomings of the development angle. I think if DeRozan had never become a Spur and was now on the Clippers, Lakers, 76ers, or Celtics, people here would probably drag out all of the statistical arguments to show how ineffective he is in many situations, but since he's a Spur, the homer gene comes out and so some avoid the obvious like the plague.
Isn't that what Drew used to call the spurgy doink eyetester blah blah blah?
I mean, in some way I agree with this. I think maybe there's a chance there for him to be a 3rd option but unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by R. DeMurre
When you point out the development angle, you pointed out DeMar's flaws and how "a bunch of young players watched him". That implied to me that you think his flaws affect the young guys' development, which led to my response of "the young guys are in control of their own destiny and are getting ample opportunities, so why would DeMar affect their development at all".
I don't know how we aren't on the same page here.
We lost but we improved. Improved by gaining experience. As long as we don't lose confidence and understand that we learning.. I think we can overachieve.
Dude said Poetl played fine. I guess air balling lay ups is considered fine :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by RD2191
Not a popular opinion but Poetl isn't developing at all. He still can't shoot free throws or a jumper. He still sucks offensively at pretty much everything and he's stull soft. He also can't guard anybody with actual talent and he still is foul prone and playing 20 minutes a game. Though to be fair, 20 minutes a game would be a career high for him :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
There's no defending Poetl tonight. All I can say is he's young and hopefully he gets better.Quote:
Originally Posted by KobesAchilles
Do not worry this team is FAR FAR away from even close to sniffing a ChampionshipQuote:
Originally Posted by R. DeMurre
Man Poodle is so soft he is killing me with his kindness he needs to start to grow a pair and just Man Up. Just go out and play physical and don’t worry about fouling out. I wish Pop would just keep him in until he fouls out just let him play through it’s the only way he is going to figure it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
ST new obssesion Poeltl still leads the team in Net Rtg. This team should be good.
Completely disagree...if they were out there from year 1, they may have been stars at this point... Other teams play their first and second round picks from day 1, and now many of those players are players we would want on our team... It's almost like only giving Luka Doncic real minutes in year 3, then saying he only looks good because he was benched his first two yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte
That's a shit way of developing young players...teams OUTSIDE of the lottery are giving their draft picks consistent minutes...and we,who are a lottery team is still playing cute with ours...then wonder why they are inconsistent and not confident when they get real playing time...they don't get to learn tendencies of other teams and players sitting on the bench...nothing can simulate playing real gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by Dejounte