Would you trade Lonnie Walker and Luka Samanic for John Collins?

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Originally Posted by R. DeMurre

Isn't that exactly what the Spurs did in order to land Kawhi?

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Uh, the spurs didn't want to pay hill his expected salary. It was hill or Parker.

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Originally Posted by R. DeMurre

Isn't that exactly what the Spurs did in order to land Kawhi?

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The way I mean it is basically the opposite. I am not talking about prospect like a draft pick. I'm talking about a guy who's been on the team for years and who at this point is somewhat differentiated, and I'm comparing him to a guy who's been in the league almost the same length of time. Like it doesn't make sense to me to use what Walker could be ideally but then consider Collins at his ceiling.

I could've been more clear on that, though. You're right than I've advocated for trading guys for draft picks, and that does weigh potential against production.

Why are y’all infatuated with Collins and why do y’all think the Spurs want him or if he’d even consider the Spurs in free agency? I don’t understand why this guy is linked to us but only here on our forums not anywhere else

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Originally Posted by stephen jackson

Why are y’all infatuated with Collins and why do y’all think the Spurs want him or if he’d even consider the Spurs in free agency? I don’t understand why this guy is linked to us but only here on our forums not anywhere else

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Collins was my guy during his draft. So I've actually wanted him this whole time. But the dude is around the age of the other young guys on the club and is the best free agent at the position of greatest need for the Spurs. That's why so many folks want him. That he seems to not want to play with established star guards, lived in VI and went to Wake Forest is why I think SA would have a strong chance to sign him. It's not a guarantee, though, which is why trading for him can make a lot of sense if the price is reasonable enough.

Lonnie and Luka is not gonna cut it, they will ask more.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Collins was my guy during his draft. So I've actually wanted him this whole time. But the dude is around the age of the other young guys on the club and is the best free agent at the position of greatest need for the Spurs. That's why so many folks want him. That he seems to not want to play with established star guards, lived in VI and went to Wake Forest is why I think SA would have a strong chance to sign him. It's not a guarantee, though, which is why trading for him can make a lot of sense if the price is reasonable enough.

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I see I like his game and kinda warming up to him, but I don't see us getting him in free agency or having any shot at him I'm sure some team will max him out

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Collins was my guy during his draft. So I've actually wanted him this whole time. But the dude is around the age of the other young guys on the club and is the best free agent at the position of greatest need for the Spurs. That's why so many folks want him. That he seems to not want to play with established star guards, lived in VI and went to Wake Forest is why I think SA would have a strong chance to sign him. It's not a guarantee, though, which is why trading for him can make a lot of sense if the price is reasonable enough.

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Hypothetically, if JC stays with Atl... what would you think about the fit of resigning DDR and adding Markkanan

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Originally Posted by mo7888

Hypothetically, if JC stays with Atl... what would you think about the fit of resigning DDR and adding Markkanan

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I don't love DeRozan coming back just because it means the team will continue to have to play small. I like that Johnson's bulk allows them to, but they need a legit PF to get to the next level. Markannen is an intriguing player to sign to a speculative deal (like $48M/3 with the last year non-guaranteed or something), but I wouldn't sign him expecting him to be a starter. The upside's there, but the dude is not that consistent. I certainly don't mind having a three-way competition among Sam, Mark and a rookie, though.

In a heart beat... Lonnie has been underwhelming and I'd rather just cut my losses with Luka.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

I don't love DeRozan coming back just because it means the team will continue to have to play small. I like that Johnson's bulk allows them to, but they need a legit PF to get to the next level. Markannen is an intriguing player to sign to a speculative deal (like $48M/3 with the last year non-guaranteed or something), but I wouldn't sign him expecting him to be a starter. The upside's there, but the dude is not that consistent. I certainly don't mind having a three-way competition among Sam, Mark and a rookie, though.

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I've been trying to watch Atl, Sac, and Chicago the last few week looking at their RFA's. I like all 3 guys to differing degrees. I think JC is the best player right now but Markannen surprised me a bit with his effort level. I thought he was softer and more uninterested than he is. In my eyes he has more upside than JC but his floor is much lower....he's riskier and therefore not worth as much right now but, I wouldn't be disappointed in him at all if we struck out on JC.

JC seems like a good fit with this squad.
Our young guns are so tight, the chemistry and coachability have to be there along with the talent and height.

My guess is that the draft will be where we find our next 4 & 5.