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im a pistons fan just stopping by to say that its no doubt in my mind that the pistons and spurs will meet up in the finals for the second straight year. Both teams are very similar. Detroit's offense is much improved from last year, and the spurs are still doing what they do best. This year i think will be a little different on how it plays out. I think Detroit will have home court. Will be another great series barring any big injuries.
It's a long season, but I wouldn't mind a Spurs-Pistons rematch in the Finals. It was such a great series last year.
This time we make sure we sweep you guys in the finals
Yeah i'm sure the NBA is praying for a quick shaq, Amare return.
its a little early to call home court. But my dream is Spurs vs. Pistons in finals. I will sweat blood on that series.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hassdabballman
or maybe just sweat Bacardi + coke :)
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Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY
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...your offense improved from last yr, but i am a bit concerned your new Coach Flip Sounders dropped your team defense to # 15 man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hassdabballman
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It's still pretty early in the season. It wasn't too long ago that the Spurs were 11th.Quote:
Originally Posted by milkyway21
Spurs-Pistons is of course my favorite matchup, and what I'm rooting for. Last year's Finals was easily the most exciting playoff series the Spurs have played in since that series with Portland in David's rookie year. It's beautiful to watch two teams that care about their teammates and put their egos aside match-up. Last year's Finals convinced me that Ben Wallace is a true franchise guy on his way to the Hall.
I assume you're talking about opponent FG%. But that stat is a bit misleading concerning the pistons because we would rather take a chance a team getting an open shot, than fouling and putting guys on the line for free points. It might make our opponents shoot a higher percentage but it makes us better because we aren't handing out free points, and we aren't getting in foul trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by milkyway21
For example, if you went by FG% solely, then the Clippers would be tops in the league, but look at how many free throws they give up compared to the Pistons. 30.0, while the Pistons give up 22 per game. That's 8 free points there.
Not only that, but the Pistons are still an on/off switch type of team. I'd be willing to bet you that the Pistons have the best 3rd and 4th quarter defense in the league. They usually let the offense carry them in the first half, and crank up the defense in the 2nd half. They did the same thing last year, but they were shooting themselves out of games in the first half then. Now, they can at least hang in, and win games late that would have been a lost cause last year.
Add to that the 3X DPOY on 2 bum ankles, and you can see why teams shoot a higher percentage than before.
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well, i was surprised when i read that stats-Detroit #15? And Suns(#4) ahead of Spurs(#5)? no way!Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshPrince22
but that's based on rbd, blocks & stls on nba.com site.
http://www.nba.com/statistics/sortab...ml?cnf=1&prd=1
OMG, this is exactly Mike D'Antoni's defensive "strategy": giving up open shots is better than fouling.Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshPrince22
For your sake, better hope that's not really Flip's philosophy or the Pistons will be on their way to becoming Phoenix East.
Strongly contest everything without fouling, I hope that's the philosophy.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
The Pistons look great on offense, but to me, it seemed like their defense isnt as sharp. Which makes sense because Larry Brown is gone. Do any of you Pistons fans feel the same way or is it just as good/better. I haven't watched too many of their games.
Golden State hung 103 on em last night.
GOLDEN STATE!!
I watched the game, and Detroit's D is NOT where it was last year.
True its a long year, but its Flip Saunders and NOT Larry Brown.
The Pistons were even willing to get into a fast pass the ball quickly and get quick baskets kind of game.
BTW, Maurice Evans, for all those that ripped the Spurs for not signing him? Sucks.
SPURS > Pistons
TPark, you are the king at making blanket, all-encompassing statements after watching one game.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Detroit is 14-2 and playing great basketball.
Recognize.
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Originally Posted by T Park
Chicago hung 106 on San Antonio, AT SAN ANTONIO.
CHICAGO!!
Michael Finley: 25.4 mpg, 8.9 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.4 apg, .373 FG%, .278 3PT%Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Maurice Evans: 16.6 mpg, 5.9 ppg, 2.9 rpg, .9 apg, .452 FG%, .333 3PT%
It's all about perspective. Mo Evans is not great. But, on the NBA scale, he's worth $1.5 million a year.
T park got owned on every which way possible.
It is true that u can't judge a team by one game, we don't like people doin' it to our spurs, let's just not use double standards
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I like the way the Pistons are playing. They finally have been encouraged to use their offensive fire-power.
Spurs vs. Pistons again in the Finals. Book it. :tu
The defense is not what it was, definitely, but I don't lay too much of that on Brown's departure; the defense was really built under Carlisle anyhow. '03/'04 was special - that was historic defense. But last year was pretty comparable to Carlisle's last year. Still, it's unquestionably slipped this year. Good thing it's only December.Quote:
Originally Posted by td4mvp21
Pistons and Spurs will be playing all season for Finals HCA, esp the Pistons who must feel, as I do, that they would have won Game7 at Auburn Hills.
In 2 so evenly matched teams, HCA looms larger than ever.
Both teams improved in the offseason so the odds are we will meet in the Finals. It should be a nail-biting series for both teams' fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons
Spurs will definitely meet the Pistons again in the finals... Time will show it:)
They're both doing a great job right now.. As long as no one suffers from major injuries, they will meet again! I just hope the Spurs can beat them! Last year was a finals to remember! They both did an amazing job on each other... Hopefully we'll see something like that again, and of course the Spurs winnin' it at the end:)
Well, that should be every team's philosophy.Quote:
Originally Posted by jochhejaam
Christmas Day will be interesting.
The Pistons only use the defense when they need it during the regular season. They did the same thing last year. Around Feb/March they kicked it up a notch and started playing lock down defense more of the game, but they were an awful defensive club the first 2-3 months last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by td4mvp21
The thing I look for is those streches of dominant defense that help us pull away from opposing teams. You can't expect a team to blow 100% of their energy in the first 2-3 months of the season by going all out on defense for 48 minutes per game. I don't expect it, and that just wouldn't be smart. That's what teams do when they fade down the strech.
Take a look at the last few games against the Knicks, Bulls, and Warriors where they Pistons cranked it up in the 2nd half:
@ Warriors: 4th Quarter, Warriors shoot 31%, didn't score a FG over a 6+ minute period. (Pistons shoot 71.4% in the 4th!!)
@ Chicago: 3rd Quarter, Bulls score 10 points on 27% shooting. Pistons score 27 points and cause 7 TOs in this quarter alone.
vs. Knicks: 3rd Quarter, Knicks score 8 points on 14% shooting! Knicks didn't score a point for a 5:18 strech. Pistons score 24 points.
If that doesn't show blatant on/off switch playing I don't know what does. The difference is that the Pistons can hang in games at the beginning with their offense and fire that switch on defense in the second half to take control. That way they don't use up too much energy over 1 game.
At 14-2 I have a hard time complaining if they don't feel like wasting all of their energy on the first halves of games. I know the defense is there when they need it.
Besides, how can you not be impressed with 9-1 on the road? That's just ridiculous.
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As said before we still are in December, it's too soon to speak about Final.
Pistons looks great for the moment, the offense looks really better and when they want they still can play great defense.
The only thing we can reproach to Pistons is that some player have too much PT: RIP 37 min and Prince 38min.
Maybe it's to find chemistry with the new coach's play systems and that they will play less in the second half of the regular season.
Yes, Flip has mentioned that those guys are just playing a lot right now because they are both playing very well right now, and we have had a very unique schedule (a lot of National games with extra long TV timeouts, 5 days off in a row, lots of road games where starters usually need to play extended minutes). Once we hit this 5 game home stand we have in about 2 weeks I think it will give Carlos Delfino a chance to get worked into the system. We have only had 6 home games so far, and they have all been scattered (we've only had 2 home games in a row once). It's hard for a guy who isn't completely fluent in english to pick up on an offensive system as complicated as Flip's, especially when we are playing a lot on the road in tough games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
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I hope they :pctoss are strip searching the fans by now at that palace. If Spurs burn the house down we don't want michigan angry again.
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Originally Posted by mikejones99
San Antonio 101 Detroit 99, merry x mas
Detroit 4 San Antonio 2, happy june
So whats up with periodical threads claiming Detroit fans hope to see us in the finals?
They need to worry about their own, first. The East...
It's kinda early and it just shows arrogance to me.
Michigan is a hell whole so people get kinda crazy there. If your sure go to Vegas and donate.
"Michigan is a hell HOLE so people get kinda crazy there. If YOU'RE sure go to Vegas and donate."
Relax. It's just a little friendly smack talk. It's not like many Spurs fans don't believe the Spurs are a good bet to make it to the finals as well. It's called homer fananaticism. Don't take it so seriously. I'd so fans of both teams have a healthy right to have faith and believe their respective fans will be in the finals.
Well Detroit so far looks like the better team but it is a long season.
Detroit even thinks the Lions will win most of their games, then reality set in and the hangover lasts till monday. Detroit might win 60 games but Indiana and Miami can beat them. Indiana would love to get some revenge.
Arrogance? No. Confident in the ability of our team, yes......(just as Spur fans are confident that their team will be in the Finals). Everyone realizes it's a long season and anything can happen. No one is jumping the gun and disregarding the competition. However as fans we do expect nothing less than what they've shown the last 2 years......and that was good enough to get to the finals twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutalis
I would be suprised to see anyone in the East beat us to the Finals. That doesn't mean I do not admit that there is a chance that it can happen.
Arrogant? pfft....
Christmas day will decide who is better at this point.
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Originally Posted by mikejones99
Not really. One game doesn't really tell you anything.
The Spurs should wear bullet proof jerseys in that building.
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Originally Posted by mikejones99
ignorant.........
Ignorant Detroit fans throw shit on the floor and players against Indiana after getting killed in that game.
In last year's NBA finals, there were no incidents at the Palace or any outrageous Detroit fans trying to hurt Spurs players. In San Antonio there was a rock thrown by a Spurs fan at the Detroit Piston bus that broke a window and could have done some serious damage to Pistons players.
Doesn't it get old blindly categorizing the entire City of Detroit and the State of Michigan as a crime-infested place where people get killed all the time? Detroit has its share of crime. And, its crime rate is higher than a lot of other cities. But, need the stereotyping continue?
I live in the city proper of Detroit. I don't own a gun. I have never robbed anyone. And, I don't throw things at players at professional sporting events. And, I'd venture to say that most people here and even most people who frequent Pistons games could say the same thing. There was one freak night when fans really went overboard. It's over. Get over it. Move on. Most Spurs fans are classy enough to have done so.
Sorry. Arrogant was a bad choice of vocab.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pistons < Spurs
Immature.
And ps, you barely beat an injured Heat squad. And when Shaq comes back you guys really think you're going to stuff them again in the playoffs? Sigh. I don't see it happening.
Yes everybody pokes fun at Detroit fans because you guys are widely known as the worst fans in professional basketball. You gadda deal with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pistons < Spurs
They should have put every fan that throw stuff, in jail. Then it will not happen again. Michigan has more crime that all states but Florida. Be careful if you have to go there.
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Originally Posted by JamStone
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Originally Posted by JamStone
Boasting that your home team will go to the finals is smack talk.
Talking about people getting killed is unnecessary.
Golden State was 12-7 coming into the game against us. We won, and you rip us for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Atlanta was 2-16 coming into the game against the spurs. You lost.
Do you feel silly now?
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Detroit plays at the Clippers soon so we will see if you hang on to that lead. We are comin for x mas to win.
Now you're just plain exaggerating. Show me where anyone said anything about "people getting killed".Quote:
Originally Posted by JamStone
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Originally Posted by mikejones99
TOP CHERRY,
I'm assuming he didn't mean paint ball bullet proof jerseys.
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Originally Posted by JamStone
Oh come on. Like he's really serious about Detroit fans killing players. You can't expect people not to keep joking about what happened. Get used to it.
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Originally Posted by Brutalis
Seeing what Joe Johnson can do against the Spurs with a pretty bad Atlanta Hawk team, perhaps we can say the same thing about the Spurs beating an "injured" Suns squad last year. Look at Phoenix without Amare Stoudemire. And when Amare comes back you guys reall think you're going to stuff them again in the playoffs?
Food for thought.
Michigan people are kinda crazy but security will be higher now that the brawl happened. Still, no one in their right mind would go there for anything but the game or to get money.
We were talking about the playoffs.
Not meaningless regular season losses.
Holy shit. Im on a role tonight. Ez.
Wow, I lost a ton of respect I had for Spurs fans after reading this thread.
Good, we should ban all people from Michigan anyways. Like we need to hear from the fucking enemy at a time like this, Fuck off
If you really want to go with that logic, stop complaining about people making fun of the Detroit brawl. Cause this is nothing compared to the ton of respect Pistons fans have lost by the majority of the NBA fanbase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trapt1307
I'm just saying the stereotypes about Detroit are really old.
If you wanna talk smack, say how the Spurs are better than the Pistons and how they will beat them again.
Why does anyone have to make a comment like the Spurs will get shot at the Palace. It's unnecessary. It's tired. It's old. Get a new schtick.
Quit being a douchebag because your team lost a game. Get over it. You guys have an awesome team. Getting pissed at other fans because you had one bad game isn't gonna help anything or make you feel better.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikejones99
Well... I can't speak for all the idiots out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamStone
After reading all the suicidal comments from Spurs fans after this loss, I am just at a loss for words...
Because a couple of Spurs fans?Quote:
Originally Posted by Trapt1307
Good going.
Well then, people in Michigan should change their ways so it is safe again. Stats do not lie. Not only that, the Spurs are a far better team and have a better history of basketball. Maybe you should read more about the great Spurs before you come back in here.
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Originally Posted by mikejones99
Dude, where did you and your 30+ piece of shit posts come from? If you want to talk basketball, then do so. But so far I've seen nothing but 'Detroit sucks.... ...murder capital.....bulletproof vests......strip search fans.....burn the city.....Michigan people are crazy....'
Like Rome would say, have a take and don't suck.
Is crapping over our state that exciting to you? Does it give you a hard on or something?
Your shit is old, stereotypical and boring.
I'm a Spurs fan and Detroit Pistons is our chief rival. The rest is just the truth. If you don't like it you should move to a better area or leave the Spurs area at once.
After re-reading the thread, I take that back. Just mikejones.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWriter
Thanks, being unpopular in Michigan is an honor.
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Good, we should ban all people from Michigan anyways. Like we need to hear from the fucking enemy at a time like this, Fuck off
I come here because I like to get a feel for how the fans from different teams feel. I didnt know that just by showing up you could offend people.
If you would read you would learn just how offensive your state is and just how great the spurs are.
Put a sock in it already. None of your posts have been very insightful.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikejones99
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Originally Posted by admack
screw it...just ignore this mikejones kid. He's new here and obviously a complete dick. He doesn't really reflect the attitude or maturity level of the other posters here.
One ghetto is no different from the rest. I now reside in Orlando, Florida and I see the same stuff here as when I was back home. I am sure that not every street in Texas is the most safe place with colorful scenery on earth. :spin
Oh ok thanx for the heads up.
You can come here and talk shit now, but on X mas it will be quieter from Detroit.
I'll certainly come here to see how you feel Mike, win or lose. I betcha one thing though, its gonna be a good one.
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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000
The Spurs have also played 4 more games then the Pistons. I'd have to see the Pistons catch up in even amount of games played before i'd rate them as a better team RIGHT NOW. Things will change.
not nearly as bad as Chicago scoring 106Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Pistons are unquestionably playing better now.
I figure they are on a team on a season-long mission to go into the playoffs with HCA throughout and re-capture the Title they missed by 12 minutes last June because they didn't have HCA.
Pistons 2L
Spurs 4L
to bad spurs beat them head to head and it spurs head advantage
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Originally Posted by Brutalis
talk about "Immature" and btw it is "Detroit fans because you guys are widely known as the best fans in professional basketball" or that is at least what the media has been saying the past few years when it becomes time for the playoffs, loudest building in the league, greatest atmosphere, awesome public address announcer, etc...... now deal with it :king
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Originally Posted by THE X-FACTOR
He's an annoying coked up black man, just about every fan outside Det. will agree.
Many people here(no it wasn't the majority), during the Finals said that they would like to have him w/ the Spurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainwreck2100
ahh you guys are racist too, nice to know......Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainwreck2100
Trainwreck2100= :idiot
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Originally Posted by THE X-FACTOR
Actually I heard he was a recovering crack head my mistake
"it spurs head advantage"
Spurs' heads, as seen last night and by some ugly Ws earlier, aren't in very good shape, yet, vs Pistons or anybody else.
I'm pretty sure the Pistons have no fear of the Spurs.
We'll see in 15 days
who fears whom,
whose head is where,
who wants it more, and
on national TV.
I really hope the Spurs win against the Pistons, but if you guys beat us, I really want to be one of the first to congrad you. Every Piston fan I have met have shown good sportsmanship from the finals last year. I am sure there are the few fans that are jerks, but Pistons fans are awesome. I just want to see a good game on Xmas to get fans ready for June! Yeah, I know its early, but both teams are the best this year. I wish good health to both teams!
GO SPURS GO!
chill out people, especially spurs fans, talkin about how michigan is crap and stuff like that.....come on. Detroit is much improved from last year and the spurs are still doing what they do and thats win. Every team will have a couple off losses to teams like the hawks but to me those losses dont mean nothin. IMO right now detroit would win in a 7 game series. They can turn it on any time they want on defense, and there offense is not 10 times better with flip.
I'm pretty sure that's the point. If he's getting under the skin of opposing fans and players, he's doing his job well. Part of home court advantage. He knows how to get the fans to make noise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainwreck2100
i don't think the pistons are that much improved from last year, they just aren't off to a slow start like last year.
Michigan is crap and as everyone saw, most of their fans are idiots. Throwing beers on players. What the hell is wrong with you people? In Michigan it seems like the criminals are running the asylum. Piston players and coach are great and no problem with them. It is the moron fans gm and owners tat cause the problems in that dump. Like Charles Barkley said, they should have let the Indiana Pacers beat the shit out of every fan that was throwing shit. Those pussy fans would run or never do it again if the players were allowed to get them. Stephen Jackson, Oneal and Artest should get raises.
can they beat the clippers tonight?
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Originally Posted by mikejones99
It's unfortunate you feel that way. We know that's how you feel from the first 5 negative posts you made about Detroit. You need not write 20 more posts essentially saying the same thing. You are entitled to your opinion. Many of us here in Detroit are embarrassed by the actions of some other Detroit fans. We choose to try to learn from it and move on. Out of courtesy, we would ask you do the same thing. If all you can do is belabor the fact that the city is crime-ridden and fans suck, I guess that means the Pistons team is pretty darn good, and that's a good thing in my opinion since this thread really is a BASKETBALL discussion. But, honestly, the stereotypes and tired insults about criminality and bad fans is really unnecessary. You could learn a lot from some of the more respectful Spurs fans on this messageboard.
It's a toss up.Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
Clippers: 9-1 at Home
Pistons: 9-1 on the Road
Should be a great game!
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The Pistons look pretty raw.
I'm fucking working on the day when the game is on, why not at night, why in the morning?
it's at 8pm cst.
pistons-109
clips-101
pistons just straight up kicked there ass. They tried band-a-ben but that did not work.
Yeah, we won pretty easily, but remember that they didn't have Corey Maggette tonight.
Pistons missed 20 free throws, Ben 15 of them. Still won by 8 on the road against an above average team. They'll take the win.
Jesus Christ, are you three retarded? This is the San Antonio Spurs talk, not the Detroit Pistons board. No wonder u got so many murders there.