Give it a shot.
If it dont work.
You Keyshawn him.
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Give it a shot.
If it dont work.
You Keyshawn him.
The earliest his contract can end is in '07, and that would have to be his choice. You deactive him, maybe he decides to collect all of those Benjamins for the additional years. God knows no one else will ever give him another big contract. He would be impossible to get rid of at that point.
That's a huge chance and a lot of money for a player with a shitty track record of being team oriented, or even sane, for that matter.
Why would you take any chance of fucking up this team?
exstatic is right. For all Barry's shooting woes, he did give us a few quality minutes vs the Suns and the Pistons. And Oberto is insurance against injury to our bigs.
Artest was the 2nd option after JO in Indy, and managed to lead the Pacers in scoring for several games. Now he wants to be the first option ... how's he gonna adjust to splitting time with Bruce, Manu and Finley for the 2 swing spots?
Anyway, I don't think Ron is the kind of guy you want to rely on for leadership and responsibility in the playoffs. His version of leadership is swinging his fists. The Spurs have a pretty good combo of talent and veteran leadership. The best case here is that Artest adds some incremental punch to an already strong squad. But the worst case is that he spoils team chemistry and is then benched for the rest of the season ...at the cost of 2 not-so-talented but reasonably good roleplayers who are also good teammates. I have no doubt that we'll need Barry and Oberto at some point in the playoffs.
This seems a better trade to me
barry+nazr+any srcub player not name udrih :D for artest n foster
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he did give us a few quality minutes vs the Suns and the Pistons
A few minutes here and there is a joke.
Is this the extent everyone has gone to defend this overrated Silver Star?
Far from defending Brent Barry, I'm simply questioning the wisdom of getting on board a player who wants to be the first option on offense. Whereas we already have a 2-time MVP, an all-star who performed as well as the 2-time MVP in the 2005 Finals, and a point guard who's having a breakout year. Are you suggesting that the Spurs try to experiment with playing Ron Artest as the 4th option, immediately after he's quit on the Pacers, the stated reason being he was unhappy being the 2nd option?
Barry and Oberto may not be worth too much, but what we'll get in return might well turn out to be even less valuable.
Has Boozer been mentioned in any of the Artest Rumors? Utah and Indiana might make a great 3-4 team trade with those two pieces.
"O'Neal said he had two candidates in mind: his former teammate and best friend, small forward Al Harrington, whom the Pacers traded to Atlanta in 2004, and Sacramento's Bonzi Wells, whom O'Neal said he liked for his defense over the Kings sharpshooter Peja Stojakovic."
Lakers interested in Artest
December 15
Los Angeles Daily News: "The Lakers - and coach Phil Jackson, in particular - have strong interest in acquiring troubled Indiana Pacers forward Ron Artest, a source close to the team said Wednesday."
Knicks Not in Running for Artest's Services
"Isiah Thomas made a perfunctory inquiry about Ron Artest yesterday, but the Knicks are not aggressively pursuing a trade and, for that matter, will not make any deal that costs them any of their promising young players."
Celtics Not interested in Artest
December 15
Providence Journal (scroll down) (registration required): "Ainge was asked if he would ever take on a player like Indiana's Ron Artest , who has requested a trade. While the former Defensive Player of the Year is a gifted player, he also comes with baggage, and Ainge said his young team doesn't have a strong enough personality to successfully integrate someone like Artest."
artest would be a great influence on kwame brown.
Toronto Sun: " You can add Toronto to the list of rumoured destinations for Indiana Pacers forward Ron Artest. A rumour making the rounds last night had the Pacers badboy and second-round pick Erazem Lorbek going to the Raptors for Morris Peterson, another roster player (potentially Matt Bonner) and a first-round pick."
he is not going to a contender, that is for sure. think hawks, raptors, or any other cellar dwellers.
I think he is laker bound
and rumors are the lakers have offered odom
odom is by far the best piece pacers will get for him
Why would the hawks want him to ruin there young team?
Word is the wolves are offering up McCants and Kandi.
Pacers do need a typical SG................
What the Lakers could best offer for Artest - if they refuse to trade Odom - probably would be either forward Kwame Brown or forward Devean George and teenage center Andrew Bynum.
Brown could play center for the Pacers and allow Jermaine
O'Neal to play power forward. George could replace Artest at small forward and is a talented defender. Bynum was the Lakers' first-round pick and has shown potential despite being only 18.
The Lakers might stand a better chance of winning during the three years Jackson is under contract to coach by moving Bynum, though the franchise's long-term future might be best served by keeping the 7-foot-1 big man.
Odom, meanwhile, is the last player remaining from the trade that sent Shaquille O'Neal to the Miami Heat and is averaging 15.9 points, 9.4 rebounds and 5.6 assists in one of the best seasons of his career.
Jackson has said he returned to coaching with the belief that he could use Odom much as he once did Scottie Pippen in the triangle offense.
The possibility of an Odom-Artest pairing is intriguing because the two are friends from New York. Odom spoke out in support of Artest following last season's brawl and said Monday the two crossed paths a couple of times during the summer.
"He seemed like he was just ready to play," Odom said. "I was surprised by (the trade demand). You never know. ... My grandmother always said, 'You don't know what's going on in somebody else's house.' "
As coach of the Chicago Bulls, Jackson found a way to reach Dennis Rodman, the player in whose honor Artest used to wear No. 91. Jackson praised Artest on Monday as possibly being the best two-way player in the league and values his defense highly.
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I believe Jackson is one of the few coaches who could 'tame' Artest.... The above deal however would be very lopsided for the next three years or so....Quote:
Originally Posted by alamo50
If LA were allowed to retain Odom... Kobe, Artest and Odom would cause all sorts of matchup problems....
And S-Jax?Quote:
Originally Posted by sickdsm
We should give them Scola and Barry for Artest
The best trade for us is a 3 teams trade
We send Rasho or Nazr to Indiana, Indiana Artest to a third and we have a player Like Al Harrington or Forston
we should give 'em Beno as well
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Originally Posted by waly.mg
He's more a 2/3 than a legit 2 guard. Theres a reason they miss Reggie, they don't have someone to fill that spot.
Also heard about Hassell and Griffen, supposedly the like Hassell but i wouldn't do that trade unless there was some other fallback deal to get another big for Wally.