Everything the KG fans say is right. KG IS better than TD. TD just wins more because of TP and Manu and the rest of the help.
It's a sad truth.
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Everything the KG fans say is right. KG IS better than TD. TD just wins more because of TP and Manu and the rest of the help.
It's a sad truth.
:sleep :sleep
This is the first time that I can remember KG owning Tim in a LONG TIME. Oh by the way, Duncan is hurt. No excuses, but just look at what has happened the past few years between TD and KG, not JUST this game.
Concur.Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
yeah KG def. impressed me a ton tonight. i still would take TD over KG but aside form our superior supporting cast, in terms of one on one, KG vs TD is much closer than people seem to give the matchup credit forQuote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
one game, spoken by a so called TD fan, go back to the lakers bandwagonerQuote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Dre_7
don't make excuses dawg, tim got outplayed tonight pure and simple.Quote:
Oh by the way, Duncan is hurt.
Notice that most times Tim caught it in the post, KG forced him about 3 feet away from his spot? This happened sooo many times tonight, which is a large reason why Duncan blew nuts, and also why he started shooting nasty looking jumpers.
KG physically overpowered Tim tonight, luckily Tim got a sweet little revenge on his sweet And-1 that knocked KG to the floor. But overall, KG was keeping Duncan out of his sweet spot.
Not many people do that very well.
aside form the fact that when td knocked kg to the floor he DID NOT make the basket, he simply missed one of his two crucial free throws, that was a very good honest postQuote:
Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
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Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
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Originally Posted by Dre_7
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Originally Posted by Amuseddaysleeper
shit you are right. my bad....but it was still a great aggressive move by timmy. last year that shot would have been blocked.
Dre, i said that cuz you saying he is hurt is an excuse in itself. I wouldn't have said anything if you hadn't said that.
yeah dude, no worries, TD has great footwork fo shoQuote:
Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
"Duncan is hurt"
when did he get hurt? After he got 29 PT - 22 RB - 5 AST 48 hours ago?
TD got outplayed BIG TIME tonight. But I still think, based on his ENTIRE body of work, that TD is the best player in the game today.
i wont argue with thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Dre_7
Hes been hurt. Not an excuse for anything, just saying that once he (and the rest of the Spurs for that matter) get healthy, we will see a much better player (team).Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons
Get back to me in June! :D
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Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
One game means nothing. Tim is hurt and his injury is no joke. He played terribly but the injury played a big part. That doesn't take anything away from KG though. He knew this was a big game and treated it so.
Duncan needs to work out. He's probably the only guy KG can muscle out of the paint. I also think he could stand to play a little harder. I said KG is better than Duncan and for the past couple of seasons he has been, but I don't think he's 11 pts and 12 rebs better. I guess what I'm really saying is KG plays harder and gives more effort than Duncan and that, I think, is an indeniable fact.
If I were KG tonight, I would have played harder than if I were Duncan. But that's just me.
Look at who Minnesota fielded on the floor tonight.
Spurs had Horry support the mid-2nd quarter offense.
Minny does not have that option. They played wally, jaric, hudson, garnett, and carter for most of the 3rd quarter.
THEY PLAYED WALLY AT POWER FORWARD (which gayly enough panned out in their favor....)
Naturally KG would give more effort.
If spurs hit their free throws tonight this is a fucking blow out.
Spurs are that fuckin good. :smokin
I take the win...and the one with rings...
i dont know if i would say KG "outmuscled" td in the paint cuz td was knocking KG and posting him up all over the place. KG just has a much better outside game and is able to fade away from td and hit his shots night in and out. TD just got outplayed in all facets of the game from KG tonightQuote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
Tim will always be the more valuable of the two because after all of these years, KG is still reluctant to play in the paint. He's a perimter player. If he's so fucking great, why the fuck is Troy Hudson taking your last shot? KG's testicles wither in crunch time.
Geez, everytime Tim has a bad game someone has to bring shit like this up. What the fuck is wrong with you people? Can't you take a fucking win and be happy with it instead of trying to find something wrong with someone? Yeah, Tim didn't play as great tonight, and Garnett played better. But, KG is more of a jump shooter, and Tim takes it to the hole. Garnett is an awesome defender in the low post, like Tim, but since KG was shooting jump shots a good portion of the night, those are harder to guard.
I hate people who think stats make someone better than another. Manu doesn't average 25 points a game, but he still an amazing player, and better than a lot of players who do average 25 points a game. The Spurs are a DEEP team, and Tim is not the only option. On the T'Wolves, KG is the first and second option, and he IS there team. The Spurs have Manu and Tony, so that takes some of the load of Tim.
When Kevin Garnett does anything in the playoffs, let me know. Tim Duncan led the Spurs to the championship, no matter what anyone said. Tim does not fold like KG and Tim is a leader, Garnett is not.
But, if you want to go by some numbers tonight, let's look at some other numbers.
NBA Championships:
Tim Duncan - 3
Kevin Garnett - 0
NBA Finals MVP Awards:
Tim Duncan - 3
Kevin Garnett - 0
MVP awards:
Tim Duncan - 2
Kevin Garnett - 1
So yeah, pay attention to those stats.
Oh, and tim_duncan_non_fan...
Wally - All Star playing with KG
Starbury - All Star playing with KG
Gugliotta - All Star playing with KG
Terrell Brandon - All Star playing with KG
This "KG has never had support" shit has got to stop. It's the biggest myth since WMDs.
Isnt that 3 clutch time shots (in the last 3 games) in a row KG has missed? Correct me if im wrong...
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Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
I think there's better odds that the best defensive 3pt fg% team doesn't give up 8 of 13.
McCants doesn't play, this is at least a five point wolves win, he was that bad on defense.
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Originally Posted by exstatic
Yeah! Better support the Hawks...
Being given a shot in your foot does not qualify as being injured. That's irritates me when people use the most minor injuries as excuses. Ever heard of Isaiah Thomas? He played on a sprained ankle. Duncan's "injury" is more mental. He needs to be able to step up his game whenever it's needed. Sometimes he just flakes out on us and somebody just happens to save his butt examples:in the finals it was Horry today it was finley. If he keeps playing soft like he did today, even the coaches won't vote him into the ASG.
thats a HORRIBLE list. aside from marbury no one on that list is a "true" all star and you know it. garnett never did get a fair shake on a supporting cast. the one year he did, he almost went to the finals. it IS a factQuote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
Awesome post, you are 100% accurate. KG played great Timmy did not big deal, i just hope this plantar whatever does not affect him for a long period of time. I mean he was great against the Clips but he did look sluggish to me tonight. They were posting their head to head career and it was a little in favor of Tim heading into this game tonight anyway, so lets not act like KG is so much better than TD after tonight. I remember when we played them last year at home and TD had like 28 and 16 and Kg had a night like Tim did tonight. Everyone on the board was all yeah TD is the man Kg sucks. So many people here can be so fickle.Quote:
Originally Posted by TexasBalla1001
...And this is why you're not a GM. Yes, let's base everything on one of the few times TD is vastly outplayed by KG. Yes, KG is great, but there is a reason Tim wins. He makes his team better. Sure he's had better supporting casts, but KG hasn't exactly had a bunch of scrubs his whole career on his team. He had his chance to get to the finals when SA was already out and blew it. He can be MVP for the regular season every year for all I care.
Your screen name is Tim Duncan Fan and this is the shit that you write about him. How long have you been a Spurs and a TD fan since last June.Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
exstatic, debreiden-Just because I dont ride on Tim's nuts, it doesn't mean I'm not a fan. If a guy punks out ands plays like a little boy in a man's game then he should be criticized. It's just like when a player does well and people say he is great,
HOMERISM IS BAD!
But anyway, if not having rose-tinted glasses about a player means you're not a fan of that player then you are correct; I am tim_duncan_non_fan.
Then WTF is a "true" All Star? EVERY one of those players went to the ASG (last time I checked, that WAS the criterion for being an All Star) when playing with KG. It's not like they're Lakers and coasting in on big market coat tails.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amuseddaysleeper
Tim has had:
Dave - a couple of times
Manu - once
and he's done a LOT more than come close to the Finals.
Garnett is weak.
Like i've stated before, Duncan is too passive. Massive parts of game you'd think he wasn't even interested in puttin the ball in the basket.
During a stretch in the 4th, he got frustrated, and decided to go at Garnett.
He did so for three straight possession, which , surprise surprise, lead to 3 straight fouls on Garnett. WTF was he doing the rest of the game, when he could've had KG sittin on the bench fouled out loooooooooong time before the home stretch
Tim Duncan Fan????....yeah right. Dude get your trollantics out of here. Ya poserQuote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
This is typical of the Garnett/Duncan matchups. KG gets over on Timmy occasionally; Timmy gets over on KG occasionally. Generally, the two guys have similar numbers.
I've maintained for years that the biggest difference between the 2 is what happens when things matter most. I'll never forget the end of Game 1 of the 2001 series between the T'Wolves and Spurs. In the last minute of the game, the Spurs were down one and needed a bucket in the worst way. They got the ball to Tim, who made a play and scored. On the ensuing possession, T'Wolves down by one, they got the ball to KG who .... passed the ball to Dean Garrett.
At the time T'Wolves supporters argued that KG was too tired to take that shot; but Garnett played 45 minutes in that game; Timmy played 46. And it wasn't from "carrying his team," either: KG had fewer shots, fewer rebounds, and fewer blocks. He had 2 more assists and 2 more steals.
In the end, Tim had accomplished more than KG and, when it mattered most, had what it took to take and make the big shot that KG backed away from.
I still think THAT series of plays is the difference between those two guys.
Well that's pretty damn stupid of you then, both guys have taken and made big shots in big games, both guys have also been unselfish and passed to their wide open teammates and trusted them to make those shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
I guess Michael Jordan doesn't have what it takes because he passed to John Paxson in the Finals instead of taking the shot himself.....
I agree that homerism is bad, but referring to the statistics and playoff wins is hardly homerism. There is a reason that most people would rank Hakeem ahead of David in terms of all-time centers, despite MANY regular season ass-kickings Dave put on him that were earily reminiscent of what Garnett did to Duncan tonight. Just the other day, Webber KILLED KG, posting a 20-20 game on him. Do you think Webber is better than Garnett? Amare averaged 37 against Duncan. Is he considered better though? Not by most, not yet, at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
Garnett is a great player. He is probably a better basketball-athlete than Tim. But ultimately, greatness comes down, in a large part, to reliability, and back-to-the basket post players take higher percentage shots and are more reliable in crunch time than players who rely on athleticism. That is a huge reaon Tim makes his teammates so much better, and why most would take him over Garnett.
If Garnett is weak then.....
Wow! What the hell is strong? I mean he's at least as good as TD. I used to deny it too, but after tonight how can people, even homers, still deny that KG is at least on par with TD.
By the way folks, this game is going to help ruin TD's chance to be an All-Star this year(not that he'd mind at all) cause he's already behind in the voting. Stupid T-mac lovers are keeping him from starting.
quit playing fantasy hoops baby! or better trade Duncan in your lineup...
You know it is going to be mighty funny one day when Timmy is retired and the Spurs are 20-62, all the TD haters will be kissing Tim's ass then.
ajh-amare never outrebounded Tim by 12, and during the phoenix series Duncan was actually hurt a little, unlike tonight. And about the Hakkem Dave stuff-
In this last championship it was more because of Bigshot and Manu that we won. Duncan was great but down the stretch in games I felt like he flaked and if it wasn't for Bigshot Rob...well you know what would have happened.
I'd be curious about the examples of KG hitting big shots in playoff games, but that's a conversation for another time.Quote:
Originally Posted by PM5K
My point is a direct comparison of the 2 in that moment. Tim's team had to have it, gave it to him, and he did it. KG's team had to have it, gave it to him, and he passed up the shot.
The Jordan comparison is ridiculous. It's one thing to pass out of a difficult shot to find an open teammate. Garnett's pass -- for which he was roundly criticized by the media -- was from a good look in the lane to a guy who was pinned by David Robinson. If you think that's the physical equivalent of Jordan's passes to Paxson or Kerr, I'm not going to change your mind. But my recollection is that Garnett had a look that was every bit as good as Timmy's but gave up the ball.
I've not ever tried to imply that KG is horrendous or that he doesn't match up to Tim statistically. KG is a great player and I actually enjoy watching him play. But in my opinion, there is a significant difference between those guys in big-time pressure situations, and I think that moment sums up that difference -- even if you disagree.
poser,poser,poser, Timmy goes for 25 and 15, oh man you are awesome i love you. Timmy goes for 15 and 9, man TD you suck go home you are a soft ass player. Tim Duncan fan my ass get lost dickhead.Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
3 nights ago, Webber outscored Garnett by 8 and outrebounded him by 14. Still, I would never consider Webber as skilled as Garnett. I actually like KG.I think he's great, and I think he has had weaker supporting casts for the most part than Duncan. But again, a smart GM would always choose consistent post play over athleticism, because it opens up the court in so many ways, and is more sustainable and consistent. A Duncan-led team, would never miss the playoffs either. Put Tim on the Wolves of last year, they would make the playoffs, not because one is "better" than the other, but because Duncan's consistency and reliance on skill and footwork is more reliable over a season or series than reliance on athleticism. And one on one matchups during the season rarely matter in terms of greatness. Garnett had his stuff going tonight. Great for him. He has to sustain greatness in a playoff series, to WIN, not put up stats, and achieve team success, and then I'll consider him in Duncan's league.
he was fresh off his painkiller shot to the foot 48 hours ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons
Oh, and while I'm unwilling to accept the "you know what would have happened without Robert Horry's shot" argument, even if we HAD lost that series without him, we would STILL have been closer to the title than Garnett EVER has in his career.
tim is a better post scorer and defender than garnett. he also has more of everything that matters.
debreiden- I just have to say one thing:
I'm a fan of what Tim does on the court. I can't talk about how great a person he is because I don't know him. So, if Duncan plays great I'm going to say "What a great game Tim played" and if he sucks like he did tonight, on a night where he didn't even try to get some extra rebounds because his scoring was off and his team needed a boost, I'm going to say "Tim sucked today." I'm not going to be all happy happy joy joy like he didn't suck just to impress some silly people who like Tim a little too much. When I say I am a fan of a player it means that I enjoy watching them play and I want to see them succeed and it makes me disappointed when they play horribly. It doesn't mean I have an undying love for them or everlasting faith in them. This doesn't just go for players on my team either. I'm also a tayshaun_prince_fan and a chris_paul_fan. Do you see how that works?
My opinion is when a guy has done all TD has done for the Spurs and you claim to be a fan of him, you owe him a lot more respect that you showed him. Calling him soft and saying we would not have won the finals without Manu and Horry, yeah i agree to an extent with that but do not downplay what Timmy has done. That shit is uncalled for man, Spurs are a fucking lotto team without this man.Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Garnett the ONLY rebounder on the Wolves team. And plantar fascitis is barely a cream puff injury. Try weighing 260lbs and running up and down a court for 30-35 mins every other night on a bad arch and see how much you can bare. Garnett outplayed Duncan tonight plain and simple but I would rather my team have more W's in the end than my star player. Team sports are funny like that, Lebron went 6 games straight scoring over 30 pts and they only won one of those games.
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Again, basing your arguments on ONE GAME in December. It's sad, really. You remind me of Bill Walton-it's all about what happened the game just before. It actually doesn't surprise me that you are so big on KG, because it's pretty clear that you look at stats and individual performances over the team game. Give it up already.Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
HAHA I especially like Walton's take on last nights Phoenix game with Diaw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh810
:smokin
Trolls are just amazing, and can come up with every and any kind of minor details to pick on in a game.
Let me see what is the problem here.
Duncan didn't play well, and Garnett played way above his head, and Manu was out of the game, and Parker didn't play particularly well, and Wally played VERY well, and the Spurs won .... what is the problem again?
Oh yeah, Duncan didn't show up in a regular season game in December. Only fans of teams that haven't won 3 championships in 7 years would worry about things like this.
Horry has 6 Finals MVP and 4 regular season MVPs? Or did his post got those lines cut off in your browser?Quote:
Originally Posted by The X Factor
bvllsh!tQuote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
they take turns owning one another.
Look dude, you're basing this 3-page thread on one freaking game. Well, two can play at that game ...Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
Here it is ... read it and weep
Duncan punks Garnett - 2004-05
Stat line:
Player
T Duncan 25 Pts, 10-21 FGs, 5-8 FTs, 14 Rebs, 6 Assists
K Garnett 12 Pts, 5-15 FGs, 2-4 FTs, 11 Rebs, 0 Assists
Ownage, huh? What does that tell you? That one any given day, each can beat the other. That does not indicate how much they contribute to their team's style of play, dominance, championship potential et al.
Josh 810-When comparing players on an individual basis you go off of their personal stats. Individual stats are what you go by when you are comparing individuals.
You cant fairly use the number of team awards won when comparing individual players. To make my point clear:
Bigshot Rob has I think 6 rings while Duncan has 3 going on 4. Is Bigshot Rob better than Duncan?
An even better example: Elton Brand is outdoing Duncan in almost every category, but he does not have the better record. Can anybody honestly say Duncan is outplaying Brand just because his team has a better record? Think about that.
Also, I think people are under the impression that I'm a KG fan when I'm really not. I was just feeling sorry for him because he played extra hard and TD didn't do shit but his team still won. You have to admit that Tim won, at least tonight, simply because his team is better than KG's.
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Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
Whoa, whoa, whoa. TD, ala Michael Jordan, has won each of his rings with different supporting casts each time. It takes a consistent player of superstar status, which is TD, to be able to win like that. If you hypothetically put KG in TD's place, KG, IMO, would not have won any titles. As good as he is, and he's really good, KG doesn't have that winner's mentality, that killer mentality. I think there's also a lot to be said about TD's personality. He's such a competitor and yet he takes a licking from Pop as rookies do. Yet Duncan gets along with his teammates and veteran superstars and stars want to play and win with TD. Finley comes to mind, instead of going to MN. Barry. VanEx. Horry. Anyway, that's my $.02.
Wow man you went out and made a thread because you felt sorry for somebody. I guess I'm more of a team guy where I look at the win/loss column before I go to the box score. KG had a hell of a game and TD was off. Spurs Win and thats all that really matters to me personally. I guess if the Spurs would have lost you would have had a lot more support from others on this thread then you do now.Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
Killer mentality? Don't talk things like that when you're tslking about TD. I would take Duncan over KG too, but killer instinct? You must not have seen "the sad face" Tim had while he gave up and sat on the bench in the Finals last year. That was one of the lowest points of his career.
Once again, 1 single game.Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
As ajh mentioned, if that's what its about, Garnett should have been traded by the Wolves for the mighty Chris Webber already:
Webber embarrasses the great KG
K Garnett 19 PTS, 9-22 FG, 0-0 FT, 7 RB, 4 AST
C. Webber 27 PTS, 13-25 FG, 1-1 FT, 21 RB, 3 AST
Or for a package of Reef and Kenny Thomas maybe?
2004 MVP Shut owned by the Queens
K Garnett 11 PTS, 3-14 FG, 5-8 FT, 10 RB, 4 AST
Have you visited the Minnesota forums lately? Try seeing what the ESPN Wolves board is discussing nowadays. They are basically calling KG out for being a pussy and disappearing at the end of close games. Even his die-hard supporters are agreeing that he is useless in the last 2 minutes of a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
Say what you want about Duncan, he doesn't shy away from pressure, even if that means setting himself up for failure. I mean who would want the ball in the last play of regulation when he's 1-11 from the line? KG looks to get rid of the rock in the clutch even if he's having a good night. This season itself, KG and the Wolves have had numerous let-downs in the late 4th qtr. In fact, they have lost the last 3 games by a combined 5 points. And KG has vanished in the 4th in each of them.
If you think KG is clutch, you should go down to the MN boards and cheer up the poor bastards who're calling for his head.
KG missed that last one and the Spurs won.
TD>KG
Did I mention anything about team awards?? It's how you play with your team; it's if you make them better. Even when comparing individuals it's not all about stats! That's the whole point. This isn't an NBA Street 1 v. 1 league. Sure, KG would be better at that. The NBA is a team game, and given that, Tim Duncan is a better NBA player. Are you telling me that right now you'd rather have had KG on our team this whole team instead of Tim?Quote:
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Wow, what brilliant analysis.Quote:
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Josh810-I meant TD's supporting cast is better. Meaning if TD and KG had switched supporting casts tonight, KG's team would have won in a blowout. Tell me I didn't really have to spell that out for you.
i think duncan and garnett are equally rated. i cant choose between him or garnett. well, ill probably lean towards duncan because he has 3 championship rings plus 3-time finals MVP to show forth, KG has none.
Wow, only responding to the least important part of my post, I see. Well alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
I'm just trying to see what your objective in this thread is. Is it to say KG is a better overall NBA player than Duncan? That he would have more rings with the Spurs if we had him instead? Or is he just a better 1 vs. 1 player? Just trying to understand here.
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Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
Playing hurt = automatic excuse?
Wow rest of your comments = dismissed.
Dude, last year TD's regular season stats are the same as now, but notice in the playoffs his averages elevated just like Manu, because that's when it counts, that is where it is crucial or not. TD has already proven himself in the regular season, so there is no reason to make a big fuss if he doesn't get 20/20 everynight.
When did Plantar Fascitis become a "minor injury"
That shit is a big time hinderance.
Duncan plays through a hell of alot of pain, but you could tell tonight the foot was bothering him.
It'll bother him Sunday night as well.
Hopefully Fin, Barry, and others step up BIG time.
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because troy didn't pass it. are you that dumb?
you ever try bowling with a sore wrist?Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
duncan is a prima donna with no balls.
Wow and you are how old?Quote:
Originally Posted by SequSpur
Duncan gets it done when it matters most, I hope I don't have to bring out Finals statistics to show you that. He plays through nagging injuries, including when he landed on a Seattle players' ankle in the playoffs last year. We know how that game ended. You seem to just say retarded stuff like that to get people riled up.
Past history forum.Quote:
Duncan gets it done when it matters most, I hope I don't have to bring out Finals statistics to show you that. He plays through nagging injuries, including when he landed on a Seattle players' ankle in the playoffs last year. We know how that game ended. You seem to just say retarded stuff like that to get people riled up.
Right, and following that logic C-Webb and Kenny Thomas are better than Garnett because they owned him last week. So if Kenny Thomas and Duncan switched teams, Thomas's team would have blown out Duncan's team by 200 points. Also Kenny Thomas has been cheated out of the MVP award for this whole decade, since we're using his last game vs KG to basically decide how good a player he is. Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by tim_duncan_fan
when the twolves and spurs play it is billed as garnett vs. duncan.
garnett is consistently owning duncan.
but the spurs are winning the war, but still I hate to see Garnett dropping 20 and 20 and Rasho has better stats than Duncan.
Ok then, what has Tim done this year to show he's a "primadonna with no balls?" Gotten hurt? Been outplayed a few times?Quote:
Originally Posted by SequSpur
duncan was a no show in games 3-6 of the finals. horry bailed him out in game 5. hell he bailed us out of the entire series in game 5. every season he seems to have more and more slumps.
Well apparently the past doesn't count.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amuseddaysleeper
some people here are so crazy. Here is a guy who is wanted by every GM in the NBA and we have people ragging about his game. So what if he has a few bad games here and there and is outplayed a few nights. He isnt going to have the best outcome every night when it comes to one on one matchups. Other players are always gunning at duncan and some nights these players have career nites, and then people start bitching that duncan is old duncan and is nothing of his past.
the season is very long and there will be off nights and yes his teammates will have to carry him on those off nights. Whats wrong with that? THEY ARE HIS TEAMMATES for crying out loud. They are supposed to help him out, make baskets in key games. Jordan passed up the ball many times at the end of games and key situations. Everyone knows those plays, why not bitch about him being saved by someone?
all that matters is that he will get us to the playoffs and will lead us to the finals...what more can you ask for?
What the hell are you smoking? Duncan had 26 and 19 in game 5, and carried the team through the first three quarters of that game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amuseddaysleeper
I can't believe anyone would ever trade Tim Duncan. The only player since Jordan on-par with Tim is Shaq.
:lol @ some people.
Spurs are over 80% and if evryone is healthy they will prove how good they are on Christmas. Tim Duncan is still the best player in the NBA and he is lucky to play with 3 other all stars.
How about keeping the political bullshit in the Politics cesspool where it belongs, hmmmm?Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
Put up or shut up, dipshit. Let's go...post your proof.Quote:
Originally Posted by SequSpur
Show us all how Garnett is consistently owning Duncan.
Or are you going to pull a KG and have your testicles shrivel up the the clutch?
From the boxscores I could find...
12/15/05
Tim: 13pts, 9rbs, 6asts, 0blks
KG: 24pts, 21rbs, 6asts, 4blks
04/20/05
Tim: 3pts, 6rbs, 3asts, 2blks
KG: 15pts, 11rbs, 5asts, 3blks
03/16/05
Tim: 25pts, 14rbs, 6asts, 5blks
KG: 12pts, 11rbs, 0asts, 2blks
03/23/2004
Tim: 26pts, 8rbs, 5asts, 3blks
KG: 27pts, 10rbs, 4asts, 3blks
03/18/2004
Tim: 22pts, 10rbs, 1asts, 1blks (from the bench!)
KG: 28pts, 12rbs, 3asts, 0blks
01/14/2004
Tim: 36pts, 20rbs, 7asts, 1blk
KG: 22pts, 10rbs, 3asts, 3blks
I hate to admit it, but it looks to be like a fairly even matchup.
if you include tonight, i think garnett has the slight edgeQuote:
Originally Posted by Ginofan
36 20 n 7 jesus. and with wins Duncan has the edge. watch x mas to see how he plays in the clutch
kg plays better early in the season and fades
kind of like the cavs
You have obviously never had a heel spur (plantar fasciitis); it's one of the most painful and helpless INJURIES you can have. It most definitely results from an injury, although not a recent one. And the injections they give you for it are excruciating.Quote:
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BTW, you do not deserve to have your screen name, IMO...you ought to think about changing it to something more appropriate for a Tim Duncan hater.
Then, IMO, you should STFU. If you don't know him, you are not a fan and your screen name is a lie.Quote:
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Rasho had better stats last night???Quote:
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4 pts ZERO REBOUNDS
vs.
TD
13 pts. 9 rebounds SIX ASSISTS
What game were you watching.
The biggest reason that TD is better than KG is he is able to make players around him better and therefore win more often in the big games.
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Manu played last night? Damn, I missed that part.... :rolleyes
Oh, and uh, who won the game?
If Garnett is so good, why couldn't he win a game on his Home Court?
OMFG , I can't believe people is questioning Duncan's supremacy for last night's game. KG took it personally as always with Tim last night and he played like it was the last game of his life. Tim went into this game like any other game but what remains important to me is that when timmy got pissed garnett couldn't contain him in the POST and accumulated like 3 fouls in 2 minute span.
I hope we see the timberwolves in the playoffs, that's where the real men are separated from the boys.
11/11/02
KEVIN GARNETT F 39 5-17 0-1 4-7 3 11 14 3 1 0 3 4 14
TIM DUNCAN F 40 9-22 0-0 2-5 2 7 9 2 4 1 0 2 20
1/27/03
KEVIN GARNETT F 36 14-19 0-0 6-8 3 7 10 8 3 2 2 1 34
TIM DUNCAN F 39 5-17 0-1 7-10 4 6 10 4 5 0 3 1 17
3/12/03
KEVIN GARNETT F 43 6-19 0-0 5-7 2 11 13 7 3 1 1 3 17
TIM DUNCAN F 41 8-17 0-0 2-4 3 11 14 5 2 0 1 3 18
3/21/03
KEVIN GARNETT F 49 12-21 0-3 0-0 8 10 18 8 5 1 5 5 24
TIM DUNCAN F 49 12-21 0-0 5-6 2 10 12 2 0 1 4 3 29
2/23/02
KEVIN GARNETT F 41 13-21 2-2 2-2 4 7 11 5 2 1 4 1 30
TIM DUNCAN F 39 10-20 0-0 5-6 2 4 6 5 2 0 3 1 25
Those are during his MVP seasons. I don't think anyone on this board would have dared say Garnett was better during those seasons. Just some more matchups for the dumb bitches that think Duncan should be traded. Go to hell or be a Lakers fan (I don't know which is worse at the moment), you can't judge a player's ability vs. another's by this matchup. Last year Chris Kaman outplayed Duncan one game. I dont think any of the idiots in here were proclaiming to trade Duncan for Kaman. Or maybe IceColdBrewski did. Just :stfu already.
I am not aware of the fact that Bigshot Rob has Finals MVPs and regular season MVPs, I must have went into hibernation in those years. And yes, those two categories were stated in the post.Quote:
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Ummmm ... yes.Quote:
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Because you are a "Dallas Mavericks fan". Seriously, how many logins do you have? Do you ever get confused logging in and forgot to switch personalities?Quote:
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