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Where does Brent's shot stand in Spurs' lore?
I think playoffs are the only game winning shots that really matter. Here are some memorable ones that come to mind and to me are the best of the bunch. Are there any others that are equally important?
Brent's exciting 3 last night in Game 2, was do or die, because SA had no timeouts left and fouling the Kings on rebound would not have mattered. Spurs go up 2-0.
Horry's 3 in OT with 5 secs left of game 5 of 05 Finals to win the game, by 1 point. (Most important shot in Spurs' history, IMO)
Sean's Memorial Day Miracle in 99 to beat Portland, also in Game 2.
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I rank them this way (as I mentioned last night in chat, still stand by it):
1. Sean's Memorial Day Miracle
2. Horry's Dad's Day Dagger
3. Barry's yet to be named 4/25/06 shot.
Horry's shot is only edging out Barry's because A. it was on enemy territory court & B. it was a Finals game.
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Depends on what SA does from here. If they don't win the championship it will end up forgotten. Unfair, but that's what happens.
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The reason why I think Horry's shot is more important is because it was in game 5, and had that shot missed, Detroit would have won the NBA championship in game 6 in SA.
Sean's did not matter so much, because SA was the best team and they swept Portland anyway, so losing that game 2 really would not have affected the Spurs championship drive in 99.
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Originally Posted by Jimcs50
Sean's did not matter so much, because SA was the best team and they swept Portland anyway, so losing that game 2 really would not have affected the Spurs championship drive in 99.
I respectfully disagree. In '99, the Spurs had a choker's rep and that shot was pivotal in changing perceptions, not only of the general public but of the team itself.
SA had lost plenty of playoff series to inferior teams before that. Sean's shot said, finally, homey don't do dat shit no mo'.
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Originally Posted by CubanMustGo
I respectfully disagree. In '99, the Spurs had a choker's rep and that shot was pivotal in changing perceptions, not only of the general public but of the team itself.
SA had lost plenty of playoff series to inferior teams before that. Sean's shot said, finally, homey don't do dat shit no mo'.
Still, the Spurs swept the Blazers, as they swept their opponents before them, they were by far the best team in the NBA, with no equal that year.
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Aren't you forgetting Avery's Championship clinching 2 pointer against New York? sure it wasn't as heart-palpatating, but it was still a nice clutch series capper.
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Originally Posted by ManuTim_best of Fwiendz
Aren't you forgetting Avery's Championship clinching 2 pointer against New York? sure it wasn't as heart-palpatating, but it was still a nice clutch series capper.
I did not forget, I loved that shot, but I have to diss AJ right now, he is the enemy. :)
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Originally Posted by Jimcs50
Still, the Spurs swept the Blazers, as they swept their opponents before them, they were by far the best team in the NBA, with no equal that year.
But if he doesn't make the shot, they go back to Portland 1-1 not 2-0, the ol' self-doubt bug creeps in again, and God only knows if they would have won the series. Prior experience would dictate not.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
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Oh yeah. It's nullified. Didn't you hear after he won COY? He called Pop a Sorry-Ass Coach...that's gratitude for ya.
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Duncan in game 6 against the Sonics last year must be in the top 10. Not a jump shot, but a clutch basket.
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How important are great plays or amazing shots in the FIRST ROUND of the playoffs to a franchise that wins championships? How memorable really?
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Definitely #1 on the "lucky bounce" list :oops
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1) Robert Horry
2) Sean
3*) Barry
4) AJ
* If Spurs go on to win it all
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Duncan in game 6 against the Sonics last year must be in the top 10. Not a jump shot, but a clutch basket.
Oh yeah that was sweet.
The Negative of Spurs Lore would be that .04 Game, with Kobe's, then Tim's, then eep...Fisher's...
I think it's apart of the Team though.
...But it wasn't all a letdown, since seeing the Pistons Help Obliterate the "Lakers ReLoaded" Dynasty once and for all, helped bring about some comfort. I think that's why Spurs really respect the Pistons.
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Nowhere near the top 10. Even if we lost this game, we would have won this series.
For example, HOrry's shot last year >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barrys shot
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Originally Posted by JamStone
How important are great plays or amazing shots in the FIRST ROUND of the playoffs to a franchise that wins championships? How memorable really?
exactly
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I don't know about how memorable it will be, but Brent just keeps raising that trade value of his. By the end of the postseason the Spurs will get half of NOK for him. I'm with Jamstone on this one; while dramatic the shot was in the first round, in San Antonio, to tie the game against a depleted opponent that the Spurs had no business being down to in the first place. It's a great play but I don't think it will be remembered because it's from a game that I'm sure some would just as soon forget.
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Originally Posted by JamStone
How important are great plays or amazing shots in the FIRST ROUND of the playoffs to a franchise that wins championships? How memorable really?
Not that important. And right now, this thread is kind of premature, we'll have to wait, for the 14 other WINS to earn, before putting it up to rankings.
Horry's was everything you could ever ask for in 05': vindication, saved Timmy's ass, etc. etc.
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Horry is easily the #1 shot on the list.
That was essentially a championship winning shot. Everything else happened at times when you could argue that we could have come back and still won a series.
Horry doesn't hit that shot, this team chokes away the series to Detroit last year.
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I have a feeling there will be other shots more important than Barry's in this postseason if the Spurs go on to win the title. So I don't think it will rank up there with Horry's and Sean's.
But The Barry Bounce was still great.
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Originally Posted by JamStone
How important are great plays or amazing shots in the FIRST ROUND of the playoffs to a franchise that wins championships? How memorable really?
it was a great shot. i was there and the building went nuts. i don't know how historically memorable it would be, but it was crazy to watch that shot bounce around on the rim, then finally go in.
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Seans shot in 99, without it we lose the next game. We played our absolute worst game and the Blazers played their best and we still beat them. It broke their will.
You guys are forgeting Duncans shot game 2 vs lakers 99 ; in 99 we struggled in every game 2 losing to Minn and NY. Lakers have a foul to give but Kurt Rambis "forgets" to tell Shaq and Kobe, Duncan backs down Shaq gets doubled by Kobe, turns around and flips in the shot. Ooops. Then Kobe inbounds the ball off of Derek Fishers head game over.
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Barry's NIOSA Bounce is #3 on mine. #2 is Sean's Memorial Day Miracle. #1 is Horry's Detroit's Dagger.
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How can you rank anything that happens in a first round game two with the 8th seed as a "top" anything?
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I cannot believe how consistently forgetful you all are, as a group.
The far most important shot, ever in Spurs history, was Avery's jumpshot to close out the Knicks and win San Antonio's first championship. Sean's MMM may have come at a more crucial point in the series, but Avery's won the CHAMPIONSHIP.
I rank it:
1) Avery jumper (Avery had a jumper?)
2) Memorial Day Miracle
3) Horry's Dad's Day whatever
4) Stephen Jackson's 3-point barrage to beat the Mavs in '03 (not a single shot, but crucial nonetheless)
5) Kerr's imitation of the above in the Finals
6) Barry's
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Originally Posted by Samr
I cannot believe how consistently forgetful you all are, as a group.
The far most important shot, ever in Spurs history, was Avery's jumpshot to close out the Knicks and win San Antonio's first championship. Sean's MMM may have come at a more crucial point in the series, but Avery's won the CHAMPIONSHIP.
I rank it:
1) Avery jumper (Avery had a jumper?)
2) Memorial Day Miracle
3) Horry's Dad's Day whatever
4) Stephen Jackson's 3-point barrage to beat the Mavs in '03 (not a single shot, but crucial nonetheless)
5) Kerr's imitation of the above in the Finals
6) Barry's
While I'm the biggest Avery fan and I'm constantly in search of a photo of that shot for my wall, without the MDM, that doesn't happen.
The MDM killed a tough Blazers squad on the spot and propelled the Spurs to the Finals.
Forever, the Spurs were also-rans...after that and the championship, the Spurs were perennial WCF and NBAF stalwarts.
The collective breath of the Spurs Nation forced Sean's shot in and I bet anybody not in front of a TV or radio at that moment in San Antonio heard an audible roar from wherever they were at in the city.
That shot finally put the Spurs over the hump to be championship contenders.
That shot is the most important in Spurs history. Horry's is a close second for sheer will and the fact that is was in Detroit. Avery's is third because of the fact that NY basically dared him to shoot it with his history and he nailed down the Spurs first championship.
As of today, I think Barry's is #4 in Spurs modern history. I'm sure the fans from before '90-'91 and historians of the game can find others to alter the list.
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Originally Posted by Jimcs50
Still, the Spurs swept the Blazers, as they swept their opponents before them, they were by far the best team in the NBA, with no equal that year.
BS. If Sean misses that shot, Portland beats the Spurs.
The Blazers should have won game 1 that year, but couldn't cash in down the stretch. If they had won game 2, they would have had all the confidence in the world coming back home. Instead, they had a glazed look in their eyes the rest of the series.
Sean's shot is the one that forever changed the Spurs. It was the first huge game winner in franchise history, and the reason we're sitting on #3 going on 4.
1. MDM
2. Horry
3. Avery
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
How can you rank anything that happens in a first round game two with the 8th seed as a "top" anything?
:tu
Yep. It was a damn good shot but it's still the first round of the playoffs. The Kings were without Artest and even if the Spurs lose the game, they'd still be overwhelming favorites in the series.
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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
Sean's shot is the one that forever changed the Spurs.
Yeah, I agree with that. That shot has to always be number one. Without it, the Spurs remain the Spurs. With it, the Spurs became champions.
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Brent's shot is somewhat devalued in historical perspective because the game wasn't that important. Make that shot in June, and we got a shot to engrave on a monument.
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AJ's shot was not the same type of shot...AJ's shot was with a freaking 1 minute left in the game, that is not a last second shot, it's not even a late shot, and we were up 3-1 in the series. Geez.
As for if these shots count before the finals...of course they do, but only if we win a championship...if it wasn't during a championship run it doesn't belong on any list. Ask Sacremento and Laker Fans if they remember Horry's shot agsainst them in 2002...that wasn't in the finals.
With that said...
1.Sean Elliott's MDM is easily #1 on the list. That was a freak shot.
#2.Horry's Father's day trey(I forgot who called it that but I liked it).
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There is one very famous shot that Brent's should be compare to . . .
*pulls up rocking chair*
A shot by, believe it or not, Don Nelson, in Game 7 of the 1969 Finals for the Celtics against the Lakers. I thought of that one the instant Brent's dropped through.
There's a (legal) video of it on nba.com. It's #12:
http://www.nba.com/playoffs2004/grea...s_moments.html
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Originally Posted by boutons_
Brent's shot is somewhat devalued in historical perspective because the game wasn't that important. Make that shot in June, and we got a shot to engrave on a monument.
You never know about the subtle nuances.. Think about Brent's confidence and the Spurs confidence in grind-em-out games this season. They blew it a couple times in the regular season. And that bounce could be the difference maker between a doubting Spurs team in close games or a confident one. That shot also takes the Pressure off Horry. It also confuses the upcoming Opponents. Who's it gonna be Horry? Tim? Manu? Barry? If we could get Nick, even Tony to make more minor, clutch shots. Our Opposing Coaching/Defense will have hard time reading crucial plays.
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Nice thoughts here. Sean's shot was great, but still the Spurs were the better team, and swept the Blazers. Detroit would have repeated had Horry's shot not gone down in OT, that is a fact.
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Come to think of it I am wrong....it does count even if it doesn't win a title...
For instance...ask a Spurs fan if the number .04 has any meaning to them...Hell ask a LakerFan.
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Originally Posted by whottt
Come to think of it I am wrong....it does count even if it doesn't win a title...
For instance...ask a Spurs fan if the number .04 has any meaning to them...Hell ask a LakerFan.
Laker fans wouldn't put .4 on any of their lists of best shots ever because they didn't go on to win the championship.
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Originally Posted by Jimcs50
Nice thoughts here. Sean's shot was great, but still the Spurs were the better team, and swept the Blazers. Detroit would have repeated had Horry's shot not gone down in OT, that is a fact.
No one can say if we go on to beat the Blazers if we don't make that shot...
And BTW, no one can say we go on to beat the Kings if Barry doesn't make his. We weren't that heavily favored over the Kings...many people expected them to give us a good fight.
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There are special cases where a play that doesn't lead to a championship can count.
Every Celtic fan remembers Bird's steal and pass to DJ against the Pistons, but Boston lost to the Lakers in the Finals that year.
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Originally Posted by whottt
No one can say if we go on to beat the Blazers if we don't make that shot...
And BTW, no one can say we go on to beat the Kings if Barry doesn't make his. We weren't that heavily favored over the Kings...many people expected them to give us a good fight.
I can agree with that.
If the Spurs lose last night, Sacramento can take many positives from how they played the game.
Like how the hell does Bonzi Wells get into the lane that easily? Sure, he had some shots you just have to say "damn" on, but that was maybe three or four, not all of them.
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Originally Posted by timvp
Laker fans wouldn't put .4 on any of their lists of best shots ever because they didn't go on to win the championship.
I bet they do...it gets mentioned over at Lakerground quite a bit.
I bet if you took a poll of LakerFans, not only does that shot make the list, but even if the fans are old school, Jerry's West non championship winning -half court buzzerbeater against the Celtics makes the list too. I know they show that shot by Jerry West all the freaking time on TV...
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Originally Posted by timvp
Laker fans wouldn't put .4 on any of their lists of best shots ever because they didn't go on to win the championship.
Yes, but Spurs fans put it on their worst shot against them in their history.
It took me a month before I could get over that shot.
Barkey's shot over DRob was another than comes to mind, but they were the better team. SA was better than LA in the 0.4 shot.
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Yeah, I think Laker fans still get satisfaction over 0.4* the way Celtic fans get satisfaction over Bird's steal.
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Originally Posted by whottt
I bet if you took a poll of LakerFans, not only does that shot make the list, but even if the fans are old school, Jerry's West non championship winning -half court buzzerbeater against the Celtics makes the list too. I know they show that shot by Jerry West all the freaking time on TV...
Against the Knicks, youngster.
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No one can say if we go on to beat the Blazers if we don't make that shot...
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I do, because SA was the best team, they went 15-2 in the playoffs, which was a record at the time.
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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
Against the Knicks, youngster.
Thank you Shoogar for proving my point...
See TimVP, Shoogar remember that shot...it didn't win a championship...It was a half century ago.
And I've always had a hunch Shoogar was a bit of a Celtics fan prior to the Spurs existence.
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Originally Posted by Jimcs50
Nice thoughts here. Sean's shot was great, but still the Spurs were the better team, and swept the Blazers. Detroit would have repeated had Horry's shot not gone down in OT, that is a fact.
I'm with the crowd that believes the MDM was the biggest shot in the history of this franchise. You keep saying the Spurs were the better team and swept the Blazers, but that Memorial Day weekend in 1999, the Blazers sure looked like a team that could compete with those Spurs.
The Blazers played Game 1 of that series with one day's rest after beating Utah and had to travel to SA to play a day game on Saturday. The Spurs had been sitting at home for almost a full week. The Blazers fought and clawed and were right there in the end. Rasheed Wallace missed a jumper with a few seconds left, and the Spurs won.
Those circumstances made Game 2 (Memorial Day) all that much more important. The Spurs couldn't put away a tired team in Game 1 and in Game 2, the Blazers ran out to an 14 point lead at the half. The Spurs whittled it down in the 3rd and the 4th, mostly because Elliott was unconscious from behind the arc. Even with all of that, the Spurs couldn't get over the hump and take a lead in the game and were down by 8 with less than 2 minutes left. They never took a lead until Sean hit his shot (Bob Costas' line at the end of the game was something like "The Spurs' only lead of the day is the final score.").
The point of all of that is that Portland was very, very close to being up 2-0 heading back to Portland. The Game 1 loss was tough on the Blazers, but losing Game 2 as they did truly broke their spirit. It also was a sea change for the Spurs franchise. Before that shot, the Spurs were always the team that had the big lead late, only to see somebody daggar them in the end (Robert Horry in 1995, for example). It was the first time that there was really reason to believe that the Spurs would win the big series and advance to the Finals.
That shot turned the Spurs from a good organization that had won a lot into an organization that believed it could win titles.
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I do, because SA was the best team, they went 15-2 in the playoffs, which was a record at the time.
So, 1999 happened before 1983 (when the Sixers went 12-1)? Just curious.
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And I've always had a hunch Shoogar was a bit of a Celtics fan prior to the Spurs existence.
Them's fightin words. I was a Knicks fan (Clyde+Pearl=Best Backcourt Ever) and a, believe it or not, Virginia Squires fan before SA got a team. Which of course meant I despised the Celtics, always have, always will.
Living in Boston for 17 years was sheer torture in that regard.
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I am gonna remember that shot...the bounce makes it even more memorable, and BTW, aren't they all lucky shots? .04 was lucky, so was Horry's buzzer beater against the Kings(lucky because the ball got tapped right out to him). And sorry but Elliott's MDM was lucky too....that's why we call it a Miracle.
Fact is Barry hasn't missed a late game winner or shot to tie the game, yet in his Spurs career, he hit several of them last season for us(that no one seems to want to remember) and that was probably the biggest shot of Brent Barry's career...I knew it was going in, and I would have been surprised if it didn't...and something tells me Barry would have been surprised too.
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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
Them's fightin words. I was a Knicks fan (Clyde+Pearl=Best Backcourt Ever) and a, believe it or not, Virginia Squires fan before SA got a team. Which of course meant I despised the Celtics, always have, always will.
Living in Boston for 17 years was sheer torture in that regard.
My bad...it must have been the way you swing off Bill Russell's jock that confused me. Point made.
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I think if the Sean misses the MDM, we still win the series in 6 or 7, IMO they were too mentally tough to let one game detour them from the Championship.
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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
So, 1999 happened before 1983 (when the Sixers went 12-1)? Just curious.
The records change in each year that the number of games changes...get it????
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#1 always rests with horry
i want to know how many times that man has single handedly changed the outcome of an entire championship
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Judging by the ring count I'd say six times.
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The records change in each year that the number of games changes...get it????
I dunno if the record you are talking about was ever that big of a deal...what is it? Best winning % in a best of 26 playoff?
The one I remember...and the one the Spurs still hold, is most consecutive wins in the playoffs, 12....
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My bad...it must have been the way you swing off Bill Russell's jock that confused me. Point made.
:lmao This from the guy who uses DRob's old jocks as ski masks. In summer.
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:lmao This from the guy who uses DRob's old jocks as ski masks. In summer.
Hater!
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Originally Posted by GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
I think if the Sean misses the MDM, we still win the series in 6 or 7, IMO they were too mentally tough to let one game detour them from the Championship.
The MDM was the turning point in Spurs history, and the moment in which they became, mentally tough.
Prior to that shot, "mentally tough" and "Spurs", were seldom used in the same sentence together...at least not without the word, "lack" being included.
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Before the MDM, the Spurs were one of the few teams who had blown 3-1 series leads. In fact, they almost did it twice.
Before the MDM, the Spurs were the team that lost games after blowing big leads (well, okay, they still do that). But also before the MDM they never came back from big deficits to win playoff games. Since then, there have been plenty.
Maybe you just had to suffer a lot pre-MDM to really appreciate what it was.
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What I'm wondering is how Brent's shot ranks in Kings lore.
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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
Maybe you just had to suffer a lot pre-MDM to really appreciate what it was.
I think that's precisely the point. The 1999 Spurs may have still won a title without Sean's shot, but that shot -- for me at least -- will always be the embodiment of the split-second that the Spurs went from being contenders to champions. Champions make that shot; contenders don't.
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Originally Posted by spurster
What I'm wondering is how Brent's shot ranks in Kings lore.
:lmao
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What I'm wondering is how Brent's shot ranks in Kings lore.
Well the beauty of the Kings fans...they love their torment and dwell on their failures more than any fandom I can remember.
I was reading their game log and honestly...I felt sorry for them...
They already called our bench the, "Kings Killers", because of Finley, Van Exel and Horry, who have all screwed the Kings at some point in their careers...
Horry is the worst one, they call Horry, "he who shall not be named", :) Seriously.
Right before that shot all the Kings fans were going, "guard Horry, please guard freaking Horry, triple team Horry"...
Barry was about the only guard/shooter on our bench that hadn't hurt them at some point, I think even Rasho had a big game against them one time(I think his career high 9 blocks came against the Kings)...they'll remember, maybe more than Finley and Van Ex, but not as much as they remember Horry...Horry definitely stole their ring.
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Originally Posted by whottt
Well the beauty of the Kings fans...they love their torment and dwell on their failures more than any fandom I can remember.
I was reading their game log and honestly...I felt sorry for them...
They already called our bench the, "Kings Killers", because of Finley, Van Exel and Horry, who have all screwed the Kings at some point in their careers...
Horry is the worst one, they call Horry, "he who shall not be named", :) Seriously.
Right before that shot all the Kings fans were going, "guard Horry, please guard freaking Horry, triple team Horry"...
Barry was about the only guard/shooter on our bench that hadn't hurt them at some point, I think even Rasho had a big game against them one time(I think his career high 9 blocks came against the Kings)...they'll remember, maybe more than Finley and Van Ex, but not as much as they remember Horry...Horry definitely stole their ring.
In case Kings fan forgot what it looked like (and a bonus note since Hedo "Mr. March" Turkoglu is standing right there), here it is.
Thanks, Misti!
http://www.mistilynn.com/rh02-25.jpg
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"SA was better than LA"
no, they weren't. "The better teams always prevails in 7 game series", and the Lakers flat-outplayed and out-coached the Spurs for 4 straight Ws.
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And standing in for the role of Rasheed Wallace is his good friend Chris Webber!
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Re: Where does Brent's shot stand in Spurs' lore?
Youngsters.
MDM is #1; w/o it I think that series becomes a tossup - that Portland team was stacked and about as athletic as any team EVER; the sweep occurred BECAUSE of the MDM - also, level of difficulty AND how far down the Spurs had come (and ALL of Elliot's other 3's to get them even back into it) make it tops. Also, it was Sean - his jersey in the rafters, the kidney, the Detroit give and go; too much nostalgia and love for him not to occupy the top spot; FOREVER.
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Re: Where does Brent's shot stand in Spurs' lore?
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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
Before the MDM, the Spurs were one of the few teams who had blown 3-1 series leads. In fact, they almost did it twice.
Before the MDM, the Spurs were the team that lost games after blowing big leads (well, okay, they still do that). But also before the MDM they never came back from big deficits to win playoff games. Since then, there have been plenty.
Maybe you just had to suffer a lot pre-MDM to really appreciate what it was.
Word.
(Spurs fan since 1976)
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Re: Where does Brent's shot stand in Spurs' lore?
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Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
Word.
(Spurs fan since 1976)
Hell, you don't have to be old school to understand it. I've been pulling for the Spurs since I was 5, which means that I had about a decade (or two thirds of my young life as of '99) worth of Spurs playoff heartache. I understood what a huge deal that shot was then, and my understanding and appreciation of it have only grown since then.
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Re: Where does Brent's shot stand in Spurs' lore?
What if we say the shot turned the team on? Someone said earlier today...."Barry hit the three and then they realized they were the Spurs again." So, I say the shots following Barry's were of moere importance, even though this one was more exciting.
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Re: Where does Brent's shot stand in Spurs' lore?
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But The Barry Bounce was still great.[/QUOTE]
:D Kori, I love that name for Brent's shot! Good Call!
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Re: Where does Brent's shot stand in Spurs' lore?
Barry's shot definitely is up there. I can only think of Sean's MDM and Horry's game 5 dagger as being more dramatic.
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Re: Where does Brent's shot stand in Spurs' lore?
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Originally Posted by UtownSpur
But The Barry Bounce was still great.
:D Kori, I love that name for Brent's shot! Good Call!
Solid used that name for it at 7:25AM, and Kori used it about an hour later.
They'll have to arm wrestle or something over who gets credit for it.
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Re: Where does Brent's shot stand in Spurs' lore?
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Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
Solid used that name for it at 7:25AM, and Kori used it about an hour later.
They'll have to arm wrestle or something over who gets credit for it.
Sounds like a VBookie waiting to happen. $50 on the princess!!! :princess
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Re: Where does Brent's shot stand in Spurs' lore?
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Originally Posted by JamStone
How important are great plays or amazing shots in the FIRST ROUND of the playoffs to a franchise that wins championships? How memorable really?
I was thinking the exact same thing. I'd put Duncan's shot over Shaq in the .04 game above last night's shot just because of the situation and the competition.
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Re: Where does Brent's shot stand in Spurs' lore?
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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
I was thinking the exact same thing. I'd put Duncan's shot over Shaq in the .04 game above last night's shot just because of the situation and the competition.
I wish he had missed that shot, then maybe, they would not have been depressed and gave up in the next game.
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Re: Where does Brent's shot stand in Spurs' lore?
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Originally Posted by Jimcs50
I wish he had missed that shot, then maybe, they would not have been depressed and gave up in the next game.
The loss in that game isn't the part that sickens me, it's the giving-up thing.
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I just now recorded the last 5 regulation minutes from the NBA TV replay (the rest of the Spurs game wasn't worth keeping)
The bounce had the ball bouncing off the border at the top front of the backboard. A couple inches higher, and the ball would have cleared the top of the board and out of bounds.
A crazy trajectory, too. From the side of the court, hit the back rim, deflected 90* from its shot path towards the front rim, bounced straight up, hit top of back boad, and down and in.
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Re: Where does Brent's shot stand in Spurs' lore?
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Originally Posted by 101A
Youngsters.
MDM is #1; w/o it I think that series becomes a tossup - that Portland team was stacked and about as athletic as any team EVER; the sweep occurred BECAUSE of the MDM
The Spurs had lost six games out of their previous 42. They probably would have won that series in 5 if Elliott's shot hadn't gone in. It's still a great shot, and one of my favorite moments, but the Spurs have had exciting moments in seasons where they didn't win the title, which aren't as easily remembered.
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Re: Where does Brent's shot stand in Spurs' lore?
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Originally Posted by ObiwanGinobili
I rank them this way (as I mentioned last night in chat, still stand by it):
1. Sean's Memorial Day Miracle
2. Horry's Dad's Day Dagger
3. Barry's yet to be named 4/25/06 shot.
Horry's shot is only edging out Barry's because A. it was on enemy territory court & B. it was a Finals game.
I haven't read all the posts...but i heard it as
THE "HAIL BARRY!" :fro :fro :fro
