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It's not like Nash had scrubs. Shawn Marion is an all-star.. averaging 22 and 12...Quote:
Nash's main contender is Billups, IMO, who did as much for his team as Nash but led his team to a better record. Dirk put up a great stat line, but has a lot more help. Of the Spurs, Parker is the most deserving of consideration, he carried the team this year.
who else? do the suns play 2 on 2? diaw, house, james jones, raja bell are all scrubs on any other team.Quote:
Originally Posted by JHoLove
Spurminator, you think dirk doesn't have the same kind of talent? Dallas has the 2nd largest payroll in the nba, there's alot of talent there it's just bad talent. Stackhouse, KVH, Dampier have talent, they just suck at playing team basketball. Detroit has the least amount of "talent" oh those 3, after the 5 starter who do they have? lindsey hunter? Mcdyess? Also PHX by the way is 22nd in payroll. After Nash and Marion who do they have?
Raja Bell is not a scrub. He had his breakout year in Utah last year. Diaw is inspired by playing on any other team than Atlanta.
People say "Nash was MVP last year. He's even better this year. Ergo, he must be MVP this year."Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainwreck2100
Then when you point out giving Nash B2B MVPs is a colossal cosmic joke, the same people say: "You can't take his winning MVP last year into consideration for this year."
Jones is averaging roughly what he did in Indy. I believe he is actually shooting a lower percentage in PHX.
How did Joe Johnson fare without Nash this year? He must've gotten signifigantly worse by playing without Nash right?
Giving Garnett one MVP is a colossal cosmic joke. An MVP does need talent around him to win, he finds a way to do it even when boris diaw is his starting center.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
Joe Johnson scoring went up because he shot more, but he went from 47% in 3s to 35% so yeah he didn't have the same kind of year. James jones went from 5ppg to 9.3ppg so he just about doubled what he did in Indy.Quote:
Originally Posted by DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
Steve Nash deserves the MVP.
Quit hating people.
Boris Diaw >>>>> Michael Olowokandi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slinkyman
Comparing Nash to Garnett is not a winning tack. You know it's weak when it can cause even someone like me to defend KG.
Trust me, put Kandi man on the suns and he'll look like an all star. Who had even heard of Boris Diaw before this season? who had heard of Joe Johnson before last season? Nash is making more guys rich and famous then American Idol.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
Nash >>>> Simon
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Originally Posted by Slinkyman
James Jones scoring went up because he shot more, but he went from 40% in 3s to 39% so yeah he didn't have the same kind of year. And he averaged 6 more MPG this year than last...
Welcome to Theater of the Absurd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slinkyman
Um, people who followed the NBA. Diaw's stats this year are as much a product of the Suns unorthodox system as due to Nash. And as for Joe Johnson:Quote:
Who had even heard of Boris Diaw before this season? who had heard of Joe Johnson before last season?
03-04 16.7/4.7/4.4 43% FGP
04-05 17.1/5.1/3.5 46% FGP (with Nash)
05-06 20.2/4.1/6.5 45% FGP
Yeah, Nash really made him.
No, no and no, Shoog. Just look at the stats that favor Nash, like 3 pt shooting percentage, and if a player averages more PPG this year than last on a different team. Things like minutes, shots taken and the gimmick O should not be brought up at all...
Boris Diaw has more talent than KG's starting center. You pretty much shot your own argument in the foot. By the way, who is KG's Shawn Marion?Quote:
Originally Posted by Slinkyman
Congratulations to Steve Nash. I think he's much deserving of the MVP again. I was one of the people that thought the Suns' free agent acquisitions were a joke (considering the talent they lost) and when Amare went down I wrote the Suns off as a borderline playoff team. Steve Nash earned my respect this year. I was on the "anti-Nash" bandwagon last year but he makes it all work no matter who they throw on the floor with him.
He's a very efficient player that shoots a high percentage in all areas (FG%, 3Pt, Ft, whatever), the best playmaker in the game today, and he's clutch. There's no doubt he's the leader of that team...people can talk about Shawn "disappearing act" Marion until they're blue in the face. People can talk about the "system" all they want...#13 makes it all go.
You know, what really impresses me is when Nash does that "turn water into wine" trick of his.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slinkyman
who else? do the suns play 2 on 2? diaw, house, james jones, raja bell are all scrubs on any other team.
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Spurminator, you think dirk doesn't have the same kind of talent? Dallas has the 2nd largest payroll in the nba, there's alot of talent there it's just bad talent. Stackhouse, KVH, Dampier have talent, they just suck at playing team basketball. Detroit has the least amount of "talent" oh those 3, after the 5 starter who do they have? lindsey hunter? Mcdyess? Also PHX by the way is 22nd in payroll. After Nash and Marion who do they have
What does pay roll have to do with being the MVP? Charlotte has the lowest pay-roll should they have the MVP? I think LeBron or Dirk deserved it more this year. I think the assist category is very glorified.
let the sunsfans n nash celebrate, cose td n the spurs are goin to abuse them in the WCF
He doesn't do that, he makes the water around him better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
How is he with Dasani?Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainwreck2100
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I don't think he deserves this award this year. Last year was acceptable. But giving the National Basketball Association's Most Valuable Player award 2x in a row to a player who is arguably the worst defender at his position is a farse.
It speaks volumes of the state of the NBA today.
its a sure LOCK! :angel :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
If Nash really won it, then good for him.
tony parker, ginobili, and duncan, will be the first ever triad co-finals mvps
props to nash...he deserves it!
now making a huge push as the second greatest canadian athlete of all time