Should Rasho...

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Originally Posted by T Park

I would say telling someone not to get hard over Rasho would be hating.

The stats proved it, outside of Duncan, Rasho was the man tonight.


Horry was dissapointing.

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I'm starting to like you dude.....sexually JK :lol

When Pop subbed Rasho in the first quarter for Nazr, the Kings still had their entire starting line-up in. Pop sent Rasho to the scorers table when Nazr turned the ball over.

In the third quarter, likewise, Pop pulled Nazr after he turned the ball over twice and committed two fouls. Sacramento had not substituted anyone at that point in the second half either. It was apparent at that point that Nazr's night was over- no matter who Sacramento played.

Also, you do realize that the small line-up is what won us game two in the fourth quarter and overtime, and that same line-up got us back into this game tonight.

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Originally Posted by E20

Please watch the game before you say something that will ultimatley make you look bad. Nazr played 9 minutes and this is why.

The Kings had a setup of:
1-Guard
2-Guard
3-Guard
4-Small Forward
5-Power Forward

Pop had the choice of either playing it like he would normally or follow the same style and play small ball. What happend? We got killed on the offensive and defensive boards.

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Since when is Brad Miller a power forward-- because he played 36 minutes tonight.

yep

No. Mohammed's a more complete player and is usually better on the boards.

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

No. Mohammed's a more complete player and is usually better on the boards.

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define complete?

Versus Sacramento:
Nazr
20 minutes per game
4.6 rebounds per game

Rasho
18 minutes per game
6.3 rebounds per game

When Nazr is getting outrebounded by Rasho, it is a no-brainer as to who should be on the court. In the past 10 games, Nazr is averaging 4.4 rebounds per game- for the entire month of April 4.6- when the first, last, and main reason for Nazr's playing is supposedly his rebounding.

Nazr just flat out sucks, no pts, no RBs, no defense.

Rasho was a mofo on defense last night, covering a lot of ground, in a lot of plays, got 10 RBs, and it was so beautiful that he hit that 3G (typically, he looked tense, tentative, guilty going back to the bench, like he had done something wrong. :lol ).

He didn't get any BS, but he was right in there crowding shooters down low and defending the Spurs' paint like a pro.

I think it was a mistake for Pop to play so much small ball when Rasho was having a great game and Kings were beating the Spurs badly on the boards and in the paint for the second game in a row.

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Originally Posted by Tek_XX

define complete?

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Niether one is complete, nor more complete than the other. Rasho's strengths happen to be on defense, an area where the team has been struggling lately. Nazr's strengths happen to be on offense, at least on the glass. He didn't bring his game last night, played defense like Brad Miller, and was committing turnovers and silly fouls. Expect the same quick hook from Pop if he's fucking up in the future.

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Originally Posted by Tek_XX

replace Nazr? He seems to be playing well recently

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Absolutely. Did everyone see the box score stats?

More than the stats, Rasho knows the defense and how to play it in the system. I hadn't seen Nazr play much since I live in Houston, but it is painfully obvious that he still can't play Spur-quality defense and we'll need that to go through the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by ploto

Nazr: 10 minutes, 2 points, 2 turnovers- 0 rebounds!
Horry: 14 minutes, 3 points, 2 rebounds
Rasho: 18 minutes, 5 points, 2 steals, 10 rebounds

Gee, I just can not figure out why Rasho played more than Nazr and Horry tonight. Can you?

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You forgot Rasho's blocked shots. three I think I remember.

I don`t know if starting Rasho again would be a good idea. He is playing well from the bench, starting again might just mess things up. Just give him more minutes.

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Originally Posted by Pero

I don`t know if starting Rasho again would be a good idea. He is playing well from the bench, starting again might just mess things up. Just give him more minutes.

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I think that is what is already happening and will continue. He plays well with Finley and Brent, too, and I want them to keep up their play, as well. I think Pop will simply keep havng the quick hook.

The good news is that Nazr is motivated by playing time and often he plays more aggressively after Pop pulls him and cuts his minutes for a game or two.

Nazr had his best rebounding from the bench.

Rasho was good already as a starter.

I'm very disapointed by Nazr and Rasho this year. Pop has given them a huge opportunity to prove what they was worth at a moment of the year (first half of the season for Rasho, after the ASG for Nazr) and none has step up.

Right now Nazr is horrible and Rasho is good but it will maybe changed against an other opponent. For the playoff, if one is decent each game, it will be enough. I think that the right thing to do is to continue to start Nazr but if he sucks, play him only 10 min and give playtime to Rasho.

I know it's not the right moment to speak about that, but something must be done with our bigmen for the next season : we will need another quality player and I'm not sure one of our euro will be good enough.

Rasho is the best... He was given props for starting...and went to the bench when Nazr got outlandish a week or so. Nothing special can be said about Nazr this month.

Rasho deserves his starting spot.

NAZR is a turnover machine right now and a defensive liability!!!

If his game 4 performance is jacked, get Rasho in early and go from there!

One thing that has really bugged me though is the Spurs defense that forces the player to the baseline except that it seems this has proven to fare well for the Kings which are quick to the hole!!!!

I'd say force the action to the middle where the help is!

I look for Barry and Finley to play crucial (and productive) roles tomorrow!

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I'd say force the action to the middle where the help is!

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Too many options in the middle. The Spurs system has always worked when played properly.

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Originally Posted by exstatic

Too many options in the middle. The Spurs system has always worked when played properly.

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That's the problem thay have not played it properly!

Bonzi Wells has a clear path to the goal going baseline particularly when he is quicker than his defender!

I like Pops new rotation of Rasho, hes great off the bench and I think he might be better playing a larger role from there.
He works scr4eens better than NAzr and is a beast on defense, with the bench in he seems to work very well.
I expect more minutes for now, but not a starting job.
Nazr has his place, he sucked last game... but Ginobli, my second fav Spur, sucked big time.
I was screaming at the end when Pop gave it to Ginobli.. I looked at my buddy and said..
"Ready for the turn over and game losing shot?"
I shouldnt have said that.
Stupid stupid stupid.

For the past few weeks it has been obvious that the spurs needed to give him more minutes just as much as TP should have been a go to guy in the last seconds of the game last night.

I think Pop is still making adjustments and it is kind of late to still tweak things.

I'm keeping an opening mind for tommorrow.

Nazr was beyond horrible in Game 3. It was like he never played basketball before. I don't think I've ever seen a playoff performance that bad.

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Originally Posted by ALVAREZ6

You guys notice that Rasho and Nazr both have hit 3's in the playoffs already?

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But Rasho's 3 pointer was BEAUTIFUL!!!!
but then again...I am biased...:lol

Rasho should do whatever Beckie and Angel tell him to. :)

Remember my thread of three weeks ago. :)

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...ho%27s+minutes