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You put the ball in Manus hands the last play. Granted he fucked up. Dont flop and expect the call. But more often than not, he pulls a win out for us. hopefully all the Manu haters are right. If so....every-other-game Manu should bring home a game 4 win on Sunday
My logic is flawed so what do you call the fifteen times Artest made Manu eat his lunch then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
The ball should've been in Tony Parker's hands. The guy that has ran the fucking team all year. The allstar, etc. etc. Manu clearly fucked up on the last play which clearly put the spurs in a predicament that they shouldn't of been in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
Manu hasn't played shit all year and when he has, he is clearly not allstar level anymore.
Manu fucked up, no one else did. The game was won and he fucked it up. Basically all by himself.
The entire team weathered the storm and took the lead and Manu fucked it up.
No one else.... Mr. I can only play once a week Ginobili. We'll see what happens next game.
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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
How is the logic flawed. You have a guy who's turned the ball over several times in game deciding plays. Now you put him on a night he's having a bad night and let him go against one of two best defenders in the league.
SHIT!
His logic is not flawed, look at his assist to turnover ratio, then look at his assist to points ratio, he was more likely to turn the ball over than he was to make a shot or assist...Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
Eh whatever, Manu let the team down. This is a rare blunder though, where his TO actually lost us the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by goliath
ANyway, you should all just take the loss like men, and quit being pussies and give props to the Kings for returning us the favor. Bibby did a great job at reading the drive and taking the steal.
Get over it with the self-doubt.
Tonight..... umm... Game 3..........
The Spurs played better when Manu was sitting on the bench. Pop is the dipshit that brought him back in at the end. Pop went against his own theory.
What can we learn from this shitty ass game???
Avoid bullshit situations where you are depending on 1 play's outcome entirely.
Win the game earlier in the 4th, and then relax. I'm tired of fucking crazy down to the wire crap every other night. Someone is always saving us. Being a Spurs fan is gonna make me have a heart attack.
Actually, I'm fairly sure TP's +/- was worse than Manu's. When TP went out and Beno came in, the Spurs went on a run that ended up being 27-11 Spurs.
TP was highly ineffective most of the game.
TV's should have built in defibrillators...Quote:
Originally Posted by ALVAREZ6
Man that would be a hilarious commercial, bunch of guys watching a playoff game on the tube, guy has a hear attack, other guys revives him with a built in defibrillator...
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by PM5K
good idea
Maybe if Pop eases up on his micromanaged Rotations and leave the Hot guys in longer. We'd have wider margin leads.
damn right.Quote:
Originally Posted by ManuTim_best of Fwiendz
We don't need such a large rotation.
That was the reason for our success last year, guys could actually adapt to the current game easily. In the playoffs, we only played like 8 guys, not freakin 12.
Um..if that were the case Barry woulda been on the bench for the shot in game 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by ALVAREZ6
Yeah, it's not like those 8 guys have to be the same 8 guys each game anyway. Just whoevers hot. I know his concern is health, but it's the playoffs, everything in the moment counts. Certain players needed to pulled for the most part, while others needed to stay for their D tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by ALVAREZ6
No, Barry was hot that night had 22 points, and was 4 of 7 from the three. Tha'ts why Pop picked him over Finley for the longer, quick release.Quote:
Originally Posted by goliath
The fact is this...if I had told you spurs up 1 with 28 seconds left ball in Manu's hands everyone here woulda been happy.
Yeah I would be happy, but you'd be leaving out the fact that he had SIX FUCKING TURNOVERS, and if you told me that I'd say: WHO IS THE FUCKING IDIOT THAT GAVE HIM THE BALL?Quote:
Originally Posted by goliath
Well Murphy's law was enacted for us...Quote:
Originally Posted by goliath
Manu won't forget this. He will SEEK VENGEANCE....
Eh forget Manu right now, he has let us down until proven otherwise. Timmay' needs to lead us to victory on Sunday.
I'll tell you how the logic is flawed, it's the same logic that everyone used in the past when we'd go to Duncan at the end of a game on a night when he was 3-16 expecting for him to win the game. I got told 'because that's the way it is.'Quote:
How is the logic flawed. You have a guy who's turned the ball over several times in game deciding plays. Now you put him on a night he's having a bad night and let him go against one of two best defenders in the league.
SHIT!
Well, for quite a while now, we've gone to Manu at the end of games, and that's 'the way it is.'
You're talking about the same guy who set up Barry to get us into OT in game 2. You're talking about the same guy who 30 seconds earlier set Michael Finley up for the three that got us the lead to begin with.
Think about that. I'm not saying Manu had a great game, because he didn't. But he's the same guy who set up Finley the play before that to put us up. And that was with Artest on him. And now you're bitching about the 'hot hand' and wondering why they gave it to Manu? He had just punked Artest the previous possession, and they went with the hot hand thinking he'd do it again.
Shit happens sometimes. Hell, the refs sucked on their whistles twice in the last 6 seconds while Bibby hacked the shit out of Manu and then grabbed the net with the ball on the rim. If the refs have any balls, they never get that miracle shot.
But I digress, our biggest problem is we're getting punked on the boards this series. I don't care how strong Bonzi is - the guy playing from the 2guard spot on the other team shouldn't be grabbing 14 boards against this team.
Unfortunately that's the kind of shit that happens when Pop goes pre-season with his lineup in the playoffs. Four guards + Duncan is let Bonzi run wild on the glass, and it's what ultimately cost us the game.
You are just wrong AHF, as I said:
Look at his numbers, look at his assist/turnover and point/turnover ratios, he was more likely to turn the ball over than he was to make an assist or score a basket...
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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
First, I doubt TD has the second best or best defender on him. Even if its Ben Wallace. I would take TD on Ben any day of the week, instead of Manu on Artest. TD is the best PF to ever play the game. IS Manu even close to that, NO!
And like I said, Manu screws up, just as much as he's come through. Screw that shit, with Artest on him.
And the Kings guy, the two guard, who had a great game and had all those rebounds. Tell me who was guarding him most of the night.
On the Tim Duncan 3-16 thing you're right on this call. Timmy is that type of player you just have to believe in no matter what the current Spread sheet says. Didn't we see him go from 3 of 10 to 10 of 17 or something like that in the 4th quarter against the Lakers in Reg Season. And in the 3rd quarter of game 7 in the Finals. His stats didn't tell he would erupt in the 3rd, but he delivered at the right time. Same can be said about Manu, who has delivered the game clinching play for most of his career in the regular season, postseason and the championship. So Pop was NOT wrong to assume...Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
But still, PMK makes his point with the help of HINDSIGHT. Pop gambled on Manu's performance tonight, and should have read the warning signs against the KINGS previous D on him. Manu had those turnovers for a reason. He didn't respond well to it agaiN, in the last possession and blew the game.
Hindsight is bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by ManuTim_best of Fwiendz
Hindsight is if Manu turned the ball over and I said to myself afterwards:
Shit, Manu shouldn't have had the ball in his hands
What happened was Manu had the ball in his hands and I said to myself:
Shit, Manu shouldn't have the ball in his hands, he has six turnovers.
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Originally Posted by PM5K
:lmao
Are you trying to say something.