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Playing Monday Monring Quarterback, we can all agree that the ball should have been kicked in to Timmy and allow him to draw in the double team, or have TP handle the ball, but then SAC would have just fouled one of our poorer freet throw shooters. Having one of our better free throw shooters go hard towards the basket while were up by one with 5 seconds left isn't a horrible idea though.
What?Quote:
Originally Posted by jcrod
Monday morning my ass, anyone that knows their balls from their elbows should have known Manu shouldn't have had the ball in his hands at the end of the game, he already had six turnovers!Quote:
Originally Posted by eriks
nothing bro, its funny. you wrote the samething twice, twice. I agree. Almost like you were trying to write a poem
:lol were you thinking that before he dished the ball to Finley?Quote:
Originally Posted by PM5K
Obviously Pop and Manu had too much confidence in themselves from the past, and were forgetting to think about the present....
Anyway all that b.s. about Manu doing equal amounts of bad for the Team is way off. Manu has made key plays that delivered more wins than losses. This is the first time Manu has seriously blown a game on a bad night. His inconsistency usually meshed with the teams, but never cost us anymore than anyone else's output.
It's not the same man, read it again...Quote:
Originally Posted by jcrod
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Originally Posted by eriks
I would rather have them foul TP or TD with 3 seconds left and then have our defense set, than to have that shit. Especially the way TP has been hitting his freethrows.
And it is a horrible idea, the refs aren't gonna make the call at the end of the game nine times out of ten, shit Manu WAS fouled, did you hear a whistle?Quote:
Originally Posted by eriks
seriously they shouldve gone to duncan for a high percentage shot, i dont care if he goes to the ft line, at least he mite put one in at the line, then go back on defense and gaurd the perimeter.
Of course.Quote:
- we were outworked on the glass AGAIN in this series, and Pop had his stupid ass lineups in there
Nazr should've played more obviously.
he was playing so kick ass when in there!!!!
Everyone knows at the end of games they run ISO for Manu up top. Even though Manu had a horrible night, Pop isn't going to go away from him. You still have to trust that your stars will come thru in the clutch. This time, he didn't. Oh well. Most of the time he does.
time to switch gameplans for last plays, teams know what we be doin.....
Manu hasn't played a consistent game all year. Pop needs to recognize this and the fact that Manu sucked all night long. Finley, Barry and Parker were clearly the better players all year and last night. Even after all the beers and getting a full 8 hours sleep, I am still pissed at not just Manu but the whole execution coming out of the timeout. That was piss poor coaching which led to compromising the series and injuries to players unnecessarily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
Finley guarding Artest at crunch time was a genius plan...
R u saying Pop would've benched Manu in the last possession?Quote:
Originally Posted by SequSpur
The previous possession Manu had 6 turnovers, had Artest on him, and he set up Finley for the basket to put us up.Quote:
Monday morning my ass, anyone that knows their balls from their elbows should have known Manu shouldn't have had the ball in his hands at the end of the game, he already had six turnovers!
If Manu didn't have the ball that play, we probably never get the lead to begin with.
You're a dumbass Tpark. A true dumbass. Where did I say anything about Nazr being in there? This is what pisses me off about you. You take someone's argument and totally skew it to try and look like you know something about basketball.Quote:
Of course.
Nazr should've played more obviously.
he was playing so kick ass when in there!!!!
Tim + four guards was fucking dumb. Last time I checked, we had other bigs, namely Rasho and Horry, who could probably be good for a few minutes of play ;)
Again, the Spurs *system* is successful defensively because we always have had two bigs down there.
When they lifted Brad Miller up high and Tim had to go with him, who was left to defend the rim? Manu? Finley? Yeah, those are some serious shot blockers right there
Pop got cute with the matchups and Adelman fucked him at the offensive end. Tell me what part of Finley guarding Artest you thought was a good idea. I'm waiting.
yep manu saved the day no other spur could have set up finely for that shot
manu has not been that clutch in the postseason this year compared to last year
he missed a free throw at the end of game 2 which spurs did overcome that with barry's three
but last night he turned the ball over
had it been any other spur you would be all over him ahf
after you say it was manu in the game thread you turned it around and said it was really the faulit of letting wells get 14 rebounds and turning the subject
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
thatis just it why not try something else to catch the kings off guard
no that would take brains and trust in someone other then manu
This loss is pop and manu. Pop chose bad because manu was playing AWFUL and manu because he did the play.
Nevertheless we can´t say now, that manu and pop are the worst because as we watched matches winning for both, now we watched the opposite. Personally, i think manu played with too much respect towards artest when he shouldn´t have done that. If you want to win artest you have to play with the same energy he leaves on the court.
Ducks, get off your knees for Tony. Manu fucked up, I said as much. The point still remains, all the Monday Morning Quarterbacks are asking WTF Manu got the ball, when half of them were kissing Manu's ass 30 seconds earlier after he set up Finley for the go ahead three.Quote:
manu has not been that clutch in the postseason this year compared to last year
he missed a free throw at the end of game 2 which spurs did overcome that with barry's three
but last night he turned the ball over
had it been any other spur you would be all over him ahf
Manu wasn't clutch in game 2? :lol And you call me biased? Get off your knees for Parker. Parker nearly had as many turnovers in game 2 (7) as Manu had assists (9). 32 and 9 and Manu wasn't clutch? Yeah, I guess Tony's 12 bricks last night was "clutch". :rolleyes
For once, I actually have to agree. It was pretty apparent that Manu didn't have it last night. I would have run it for either Parker or Barry as the primary ball handler.
parker 4-13
manu 3-9
they both shot below their %
but manu had 6 turnovers
and manu last year in the playoffs would not have missed that big free throw at the end
hopefully manu can regain his play from last year
Ding ding ding. We have a winner....Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
Sorry but I say you still have to go through Manu.
Even with six turnovers, Manu is the best guy in crunch time with the ball in his hands. Refer to the play where Finley hit the 3. Refer to the last play of Game 2. Even if he had 20 turnovers, I'd want Pop to still have the confidence to go through him. He's a winner and in the playoffs, winners step up even if they are having an awful game.
His turnovers weren't just because Artest was smothering him on D. A lot of his turnovers were just plain screw ups. So oh well. You keep going to him and most of the time he'll come through for you. Last night he didn't. Oh well. Move on.
It's easy for you guys to say now that Pop fucked up. But if Manu would have scored (Or dished to someone else who scored) you all would be in here praising Pop for sticking with Manu even on a bad night.