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Re: Offensive Goaltending
Agreed, Kori. They weren't going to call either of those situations. I just think Kings fans are funny for failing to aknowledge that what Bibby did (touching the net with the ball on the rim) is a violation, after SCREAMING at the tops of their lungs about a moving screen.
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Re: Offensive Goaltending
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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
Once again, touching the net is not goaltending.
With the ball on the rim? You bet your ASS it is.
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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
Once again, touching the net is not goaltending.
Well I think it could be considered vibrating the rim or basket (or however that part of the interference rule goes).
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There's no way they would call that in a situation like that, ever. Frankly I'd be embarrassed for the nba if they did, you don't want to win like that.
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No, merely touching the net is never interfernece. If you pull the net and it moves the rim, then it becomes interference, but nowhere in the NBA's rulebook does it even mention the net. The only thing mentioned is the rim and the backboard.
Incidental contact on the net while the shot is up is not interference. I leave open the possibility that I missed the rule, but someones going to have to link me to it and show me where it says that touching the net is a violation.
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Re: Offensive Goaltending
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Originally Posted by exstatic
Agreed, Kori. They weren't going to call either of those situations. I just think Kings fans are funny for failing to aknowledge that what Bibby did (touching the net with the ball on the rim) is a violation, after SCREAMING at the tops of their lungs about a moving screen.
No Kings fan on this board were screaming about the moving screen. I simply brought it up to counter this so called goaltending. Both would have been ticky tack if called, and I'm glad they weren't called.
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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
No, merely touching the net is never interfernece. If you pull the net and it moves the rim, then it becomes interference, but nowhere in the NBA's rulebook does it even mention the net. The only thing mentioned is the rim and the backboard.
Incidental contact on the net while the shot is up is not interference. I leave open the possibility that I missed the rule, but someones going to have to link me to it and show me where it says that touching the net is a violation.
No, you are right; touching it isn't an automatic violation. But touching it while the ball is on the rim could easily be ruled as the part about vibrating the rim or whatever. It's subjective.
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Originally Posted by Winnipeg_Spur
There's no way they would call that in a situation like that, ever. Frankly I'd be embarrassed for the nba if they did, you don't want to win like that.
I agree, they would never call it in a situation like that.
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Pulling on the net is a violation, but i haven't seen a replay so i don't know if it really made a difference. But yeah the refs aren't going to make that call unless it's extremely obvious that it effected the shot.
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Re: Offensive Goaltending
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
No, you are right; touching it isn't an automatic violation. But touching it while the ball is on the rim could easily be ruled as the part about vibrating the rim or whatever. It's subjective.
I agree with that. I also think that if you look at the replay, there is almost 100% certainty that the way Bibby touched the net was no where near enough to effect the rim which is why I hate to see so many fans reaching for something so weak.
I think its safe to say that we all hate seeing our team win on some technicality.
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There's no way they would call that in a situation like that, ever. Frankly I'd be embarrassed for the nba if they did, you don't want to win like that
Agreed. The Spurs should have never let it get to that point to begin with. Sacto earned Game 3. The Spurs need to go get Game 4.
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I saw bibby breathing near the rim!!! THat must be offensive goaltending!
Get over it, Manu and Pop fucked up the last play, the only decent player of the night was duncan
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If they called THAT, it would officially be the lamest call of all time.
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Originally Posted by FreshPrince22
If they called THAT, it would officially be the lamest call of all time.
I think everyone agrees (except maybe the thread starter).
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Re: Offensive Goaltending
Weak.
But unlike Adelman and the pick what are the chances Pop would mention it? Less than zero?
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Re: Offensive Goaltending
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Originally Posted by GO SPurs Go
Look, I'm not giving an excuse for the shit play, nor am I stating all the obvious errors that the refs had. All I'm really interested to know how much money the Maloof Brothers paid the refs, because although ALL THREE refs were supposed to look at the shot and no one saw (or no one chose to see) the goaltend, they had (by NBA rules) to watch the replay. Fucking assholes they still didnt call it!!.
Did the Spurs deserve to win? NO
Should they have won? Yes
Yea, they must've paid them...
24 fouls on the Spurs
24 fouls on the Kings
What an injustice... :smokin
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Originally Posted by picnroll
Weak.
But unlike Adelman and the pick what are the chances Pop would mention it? Less than zero?
Well, the pick actually had an effect on the game. Still not something you should complain about considering there is no possible way to change the result, but it's a different situation.
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I like you guys. Some dumbshit starts a thread like this and you all call him on his bullshit. I only wish more King's fans were like this.
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Whether he touched the net or tried to completely pull it down ... doesnt matter. Spurs played like crap (except for TD) and blew the game in the last 10 seconds. The Kings outplayed the Spurs and deserved the game.
Now, let it go and let the Spurs beat the crap out of them in Game 4.
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Originally Posted by FreshPrince22
Well, the pick actually had an effect on the game. Still not something you should complain about considering there is no possible way to change the result, but it's a different situation.
Horse shit. Even if Duncan moved Bibby wouldn't have gotten close to Barry to effect the shot. Mavs and Pistons fans seem desperate making up fantasy reasons why the Spurs shouldn't advance.
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Originally Posted by KingsFanWithoutName
I like you guys. Some dumbshit starts a thread like this and you all call him on his bullshit. I only wish more King's fans were like this.
Not to mention the Kings' coach.
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Originally Posted by LEONARD
Yea, they must've paid them...
24 fouls on the Spurs
24 fouls on the Kings
What an injustice... :smokin
Another dumbass who thinks all fouls are equal. The number you should be looking at is FTA: 33 Sacto 22 SA. There were at least two CLEAR cases of continuation for Duncan in the 4th where he was making his move and never put the ball down after the whistle, and that dumbfuck Salvatore called on the floor fouls. The disparity in regulation in game 2 (+8 ___ramento) was almost as large, evening out in OT. Copngratulations, ___ramento: if you get a double digit or near double digit disparity at the FT line, you can hang. Good job.
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Re: Offensive Goaltending
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Originally Posted by SuperManu!!!
I saw bibby breathing near the rim!!! THat must be offensive goaltending!
Get over it, Manu and Pop fucked up the last play, the only decent player of the night was duncan
Finley...
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Originally Posted by LEONARD
Yea, they must've paid them...
24 fouls on the Spurs
24 fouls on the Kings
What an injustice... :smokin
Let's say there is a game in which both teams get 20 fouls. Wouldn't you say there's a huge difference between 1 team picking up 5 fouls a quarter and the other team getting all 20 in one quarter? Obviously this is exaggerated, but hopefully you get my point. The Spurs were in the freaking penalty by the 8 minute mark of the FOURTH QUARTER.
And anyway, going by your logic, the Spurs got a lot less FTAs. In a game decided by 1 point, this makes a huge difference.
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Re: Offensive Goaltending
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
Game 2: Duncan's screen was illegal, blah, blah, blah
Game 3: Bibby touched net, it was interference, blah, blah, blah
Either or both of these statements might be true, but fans need to get over the calls and non-calls. Somethings are subjective, somethings are just missed. That's just basketball.
:tu
some fans just need to realize, THE GAMES OVER, move on. Thats why its a 7 game series, the best team always prevails. What are we expected to do, submit a plea to the league to review a non-call on a offensive goaltending? :rolleyes
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Re: Offensive Goaltending
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Originally Posted by exstatic
Another dumbass who thinks all fouls are equal. The number you should be looking at is FTA: 33 Sacto 22 SA. There were at least two CLEAR cases of continuation for Duncan in the 4th where he was making his move and never put the ball down after the whistle, and that dumbfuck Salvatore called on the floor fouls. The disparity in regulation in game 2 (+8 ___ramento) was almost as large, evening out in OT. Copngratulations, ___ramento: if you get a double digit or near double digit disparity at the FT line, you can hang. Good job.
Why so much complaining?
Sacramento was taking it to the hoop in games 2 and 3. San Antonio was not. Simply look at the points in the paint those two games.