My problem with Tony Parker

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

I agree he has played well the last couple of games and I PRAY :worthy: he plays the same way he has the last 2 games. The reason why I call no one else out is because TP has the ball 75% of the time or more. His play with the ball affects the spurs because of this fact. When the team defense adjusts to Tony and takes away his drive he needs to not force the ball or dribble the shot clock down to the point we don't get good shot. It's very simple. I am glad Tony is not playing the way he has in the past but I will hold my judgement until I see him adjust his game against a better defensive team. He tore up Bibby the last 2 games because he did not force things nor did he handle the ball as much as he does when the defense is geared to him. It's amazing how I have valid criticism of one of our players so others don't agree tell me to stfu... Since when did this board become homerville?

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What do you expect? They're only coming at you now because Tony's had a good game. If he had a bad game a large percentage of them would skew towards your side....a lot of people have the fairweather mentality. So when he's great. "HOW DARE YOU!?" when he sucks "TRADE THE LITTLE SHIT! NOW!"

and you're right about the defensive schemes, pretty valid points, but I don't know why you're calling out Tony just now...some people should cut him some slack, Tony does whatever Pop tells him. That shows a lot of heart.

It also shows he's not quite matured enough to cut the decisions, when his JUMPER sucks asss, DON't Take 20 shots still, find your teammates, and don't ignore them even if you're told to...that's one problem with Tony's maturity. He means well for the team, but he tries to do too much at times. There are plenty of times when he's ignored a higher percentage shot from his teammate and just forced his the offense through himself...but whatever, he's done more good than bad, so Tony's the kind of player you have to be patient with, he can only get better.

Whatever Tony is doing, it resulted in the Spurs having the best team FG% in the first round of the Playoffs. And keep in mind there were teams playing the Suns and the Wizards in the first round.

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The reason why I call no one else out is because TP has the ball 75% of the time or more

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That's because he's the POINT GUARD.

Fuck all of you people. Who gives a shit how they win. They win. Period. Three Championships - including two in three years - and you still bitch like little kids. TP is the present and future of the PG position for the Spurs, and he is getting better game by game. Get your heads out of your collective asses and enjoy the show.

And all this shit about why didnt manu, tim, tony do this or that bullshit is fucking rediculous. I dont give a shit if beno scores 45, as long as we win. Just win. Do whatever the fuck you have to do to win.

If you are looking for the perfect basketball team then you are going to be miserable and looking forever because it doesnt exist. This is becoming as close as it gets, enjoy it.

I think someone needs to hit up Artest for his meds now that he doesn't really need them anymore.

My meds work fine. I dont need some psycho giant's meds. Mind your own fucking business.

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

We still don't need him dribbling for 3/4 of the shot clock and forcing up up bad shot after bad shot.. He did not and we dominated. (notice when he does not do those things we win handily) agreed?

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

He tore up Bibby the last 2 games because he did not force things nor did he handle the ball as much as he does when the defense is geared to him.

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Please stop contradicting yourself. You're making yourself look bad.

I love Tony! :)

But, with regularity, he drives the lane and causes a turnover when he should have passed it out to an open guy. He's a little too selfish, too often.

yeah no other players in the nba have turnovers
nash had 7 one game
kobe had 7 one game
manu had 7 I believe one game
these were all in the playoffs
but yep and no other player in the nba gets called for charging once in awhile in the playoffs

yep he always causes a turnover
he sucks

who do you want to replace him?

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Originally Posted by ducks

yeah no other players in the nba have turnovers
nash had 7 one game
kobe had 7 one game
manu had 7 I believe one game
these were all in the playoffs
but yep and no other player in the nba gets called for charging once in awhile in the playoffs

yep he always causes a turnover
he sucks

who do you want to replace him?

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There are times to drive, and there are times to pass it out. I didn't say that no one else causes turnovers. Please, try accepting some constructive criticism. Tony is my favorite Spur, I love him to death! But I can also see when he is being a too selfish with the ball and sometimes it hurts the team.

Well, maybe tony would not be that good in mid range shot if he didn't shot that much during the season.

Same for the playoff... It'is because he shots 20 shots last game that he is good the next game...


You can say that you are not a Parker fan, or that you think he should be better... But if you ask him to play the way he did last 2 games, you have to realize that you are expecting tony to be the best spurs player, if not the best player in the league.

So, maybe it's a compliment...

As a former critic...I have no problems with TP right now.

He has played through injuries. He has hit some jumpshots. He has gotten in the lane. He's fine by me.

Tony Parker is a top 3 point guard int he leauge. Anyone who doesn't realize just how incredible this season has been for him definetly has their head firmly implated in their ass.

Thats the end of the story.

Oh, and people that complain that he doesn't pass enough, are critical of his assist numbers or think he has the ball too much are just too ignorant to pick up on the style of basketball the Spurs play and how their offense works.

I'm not even going to read through this thread because I know it is just page after page of retarded comments by people ignorant on just how basketball is supposed to be played.

I think we need to give more ball to Tim, he shots just 8 balls per game, but Parker shots the ball 20 times. Parker needs to have more assists and not more shots. And it`s true that he`s got 80% ball in his hands. OK his shot is 50%, but that 50% shot always comes from inside. In some games he won`t get inside so easy and then he will not know what to do, or he will try to make shots from outside, in which he is not so good. His shot will be 20% and SAS will lose games.

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Originally Posted by 2centsworth

Anyone who still has a problem with TPs game after what he's shown this entire year has got to be the dumbest basketball fan ever.

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Originally Posted by Spurologist

Please stop contradicting yourself. You're making yourself look bad.

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Right. One post I say he causes trouble when he dominates the ball and forces the game. The other I said he did not dominate the game and we played great as a team. I noticed out of all my posts you find 2 sentences and then say' well you contradicted yourself". That show the weakness of your argument. What's funny is that there alot of parker fans who do agree with me . My problem with Tony's play is very simple and I will break it down for slower people such as yourself. WHEN DEFENSES ARE GEARED TO STOP HIM AND TONY IS SELFISH WITH BALL IT HURTS OUR TEAM. It's very simple hopefully even for you. When tony plays like he did the final 2 games of the SAC series we are much better team. I don't lose a second of sleep when keyboard experts such as yourself call people out or contradicting themselves. My point is sound and many people agree with me. I really want you to defend parker when he continually tries to drive a lane over and ver again and not get one good shot off or want him to dribbled the ball for 18 or 19 seconds of the shot clock to then be forced to force another shot.. please defend this. I'm done posting on this for now because I musr decide if I am going to wear my AJ spurs jersey or not because we were 0-3 in the finals last year when I did.

Uh...Tony totally dominated the ball game 6 and we won in blow-out fashion.

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Originally Posted by Texas_Ranger

I think we need to give more ball to Tim, he shots just 8 balls per game, but Parker shots the ball 20 times. Parker needs to have more assists and not more shots. And it`s true that he`s got 80% ball in his hands. OK his shot is 50%, but that 50% shot always comes from inside. In some games he won`t get inside so easy and then he will not know what to do, or he will try to make shots from outside, in which he is not so good. His shot will be 20% and SAS will lose games.

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Pop has asked Tony to shoot at least 20 times.

Since the All-Star break, Tony has hit 46% of his jumpers outside 16 feet.

Sometimes it seems people haven't watched any Spurs games lately and are thinking about last season.

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

Pop has asked Tony to shoot at least 20 times.

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Which is why I don't understand how people can be so damn stupid. The man is doing what he's supposed to and he's doing it well and people who have no clue still want to say that he's doing something wrong.

How are so many people flat out retarded?

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Originally Posted by Afro

I really want you to defend parker when he continually tries to drive a lane over and ver again and not get one good shot off or want him to dribbled the ball for 18 or 19 seconds of the shot clock to then be forced to force another shot.

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When does this happen?

You always post like this is how it regularly is. It isn't.

Most Spurs fans are idiots.

This thread is pure entertainment.

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Originally Posted by RobinsontoDuncan

Uh...Tony totally dominated the ball game 6 and we won in blow-out fashion.

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uh did continually force shots ?..uh did he dribble the shot clock down numerous times to then force a shot up?.. no so i am right when he does not do that we win. very simple.

oh and this crap "well pop told him to shoot 20 times"..I am going to assume Pop also to take these shots with the floe of the game and not play micheal jordan..

so now since I don't like the way our Point Guard plays at times I am stupid, a hypocrite, or dumb... coming from some of you i must ask when is the last time you looked in the mirror.. I am not a homer nor will I ever be one.. we have weaknesses believe it or not..

if you cant realize Parker totally outplayed a very good PG in Mike Bibby against the Kings, that he overall had a good series, or that Parker played fucking great in game 6 and helped carry them to victory when he took over in the 3rd you are a fucking moron.

the Tony Parker bashers are an embarrassment to Spurs fans