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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
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Originally Posted by weebo
#1 The Spurs need to run more. They need to get out on the break and put the pressure on the Kings defense. The game's tempo has been in the king's favor. Drive to the basket when the oppurtunity arises and get to the line (eventhough our freethrow shooting is poor). Also, get Duncan more involved. No one player on the kings can gaurd him straightup. Force them to double and hopefully that will open up some shots from the three point line.
Sac. is playing great transition d. Every time the ball is outletted to parker and he starts the break he is going 1 on 2 at the best. sac is gearing to stop the break and defend the 3 point line. getting out on the break won't be that easy.
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
1. Finley is NEVER a defensive solution
2. Wells would torch Duncan like Josh Howard does when Bowen is locked up on Dirk every possession...
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
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Originally Posted by Que Gee
Look for Tim to guard Bonzi next game.
:lol are you serious? bonzi would go right by him. :lol
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
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Originally Posted by LEONARD
Wells would torch Duncan like Josh Howard does when Bowen is locked up on Dirk every possession...
It will be interesting to see how the Spurs guard Dirk in the next round. I guess they'll just continue to change it up within the game to try to keep Dirk slightly off balance. I do know that watching film of the way Memphis has tried to cover him ain't gonna help :lol
I'm hoping the Memphis players just aren't that bright and that Fratello is not coaching them to allow him wide open shots. :lol
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
Why not? He's a 6'9 small forward. Isn't that what you are looking for?
C'mon Kori...Sanikidze hasn't even proven he can make it the French League, much less be a key contributor(especially defensively) to a title contending team...And to top all of that off...somehow I get the feeling that the Spurs didn't draft Sanikidze for his defensive expertise.
RE: Bonzi 245lbs...you are probably rigtht about that, I just lifted his stats off ESPN, although to me Bonzi doesn't look that heavy(245lbs)...he's just got a huge upper body and he has always been that way...but he certainly could weigh that much...
In any case, he's too heavy for Bruce and there is no doubt Finley is our biggest swing. No one is stopping Bonzi, and I don't think it's because they lack heart, and it has always disturbed me that that is the first criticism Spursfans make. I just think Bonzi is too strong for them. But in any case, Finley is the best of our swings at drawing fouls and making defenders work, after Manu.
Let's make Bonzi use some of that energy playing D and give him some fouls to manage. My guess is that Bonzi isn't in good enough shape to go from being a part time player for much of the past few years to being a 38 MPG player on both sides of the ball and still be as dominant as he has been. Plus Mike is capable of offsetting Bonzi's dominance with points of his own. If we can stick a big body in front of Bonzi to cut his rebounding, his points will see a similar decline...It's his rebounding(and subsequent scoring off of it) that is killing us more than anything else.
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
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Originally Posted by mabber
It will be interesting to see how the Spurs guard Dirk in the next round. I guess they'll just continue to change it up within the game to try to keep Dirk slightly off balance. I do know that watching film of the way Memphis has tried to cover him ain't gonna help :lol
I'm hoping the Memphis players just aren't that bright and that Fratello is not coaching them to allow him wide open shots. :lol
bowen is always -- always able to give Dirk fits. He gets in Dirk's head everytime they play. that is one thing bruce can do - guard shooters.
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
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Originally Posted by Whottt
C'mon Kori...Sanikidze hasn't even proven he can make it the French League, much less be a key contributor(especially defensively) to a title contending team...And to top all of that off...somehow I get the feeling that the Spurs didn't draft Sanikidze for his defensive expertise.
I have never seen the guy play, so I don't know. But from what I thought, defense was the reason they drafted him. He's not a shooter or anything.
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
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Originally Posted by implacable44
bowen is always -- always able to give Dirk fits. He gets in Dirk's head everytime they play. that is one thing bruce can do - guard shooters.
Those days are gone in regards to giving Dirk fits. All good defenders that were around Bowen's size had given Dirk fits in past years but he's learned how to handle them this season. Dirk has done really well vs. Bowen, Artest, Marion & Battier this season. It was his #1 priority in the offseason.
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
This is a good idea. Bruce is overmatched against Wells and Artest. I also like the idea of using Horry on Wells.
Bruce is still a valuable asset to use on Bibby if needed. After getting a little sleep, I feel better about tomorrow.
Also, this is off topic a little but Horry and TP will be on Jim Rome is Burning tomorrow.
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
I have never seen the guy play, so I don't know. But from what I thought, defense was the reason they drafted him. He's not a shooter or anything.
IIRC Sanikidze was drafted for his shooting, rebounding and finishing ability...and what made him a project was the fact that he was considered too light and weak to be a viable SF in the NBA(IIRC he weighed under 200lbs at the time he was drafted), mainly because he couldn't handle the position in defensively. He's probably put on some weight since then(since he was 18 or 19 when he was drafted) but I don't envision some skinny 210lb Euro coming over and being the defensive solution to Bonzi and Artest...
You are more in touch with the Spurs than I am and I certainly could be wrong about what his talents were...but IIRC Sanikidze was drafted for his offensive skills(this fact has probably been lost because, from what I saw, he got dominated and played poorly in the French League).
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
finley does not rebound better than bowen, just that.
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
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Originally Posted by mabber
Those days are gone in regards to giving Dirk fits. All good defenders that were around Bowen's size had given Dirk fits in past years but he's learned how to handle them this season. Dirk has done really well vs. Bowen, Artest, Marion & Battier this season. It was his #1 priority in the offseason.
If you say so.
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
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Originally Posted by SA Gunslinger
This is a good idea. Bruce is overmatched against Wells and Artest. I also like the idea of using Horry on Wells.
Bruce is still a valuable asset to use on Bibby if needed. After getting a little sleep, I feel better about tomorrow.
Also, this is off topic a little but Horry and TP will be on Jim Rome is Burning tomorrow.
jim rome said earlier that the spurs better get their collective shit together or they will be fishing earlier then they thought. much much earlier.
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
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Originally Posted by zocool16
finley does not rebound better than bowen, just that.
wow if he doesnt rebound better then bowen then he must really suck at it. :lol
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
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Originally Posted by implacable44
If you say so.
I know so! :hat
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
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Originally Posted by zocool16
finley does not rebound better than bowen, just that.
Finley has pulled down over 6 board per game before and has a career rbpg aver of nearly 5. Even Barry has pulled down over 5 boards per game before. Bruce is the worst rebounder of all our swings.
Check facts first before before backing yourself into a corner with a statement from your ass.
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
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Originally Posted by whottt
IIRC Sanikidze was drafted for his shooting, rebounding and finishing ability...and what made him a project was the fact that he was considered too light and weak to be a viable SF in the NBA(IIRC he weighed under 200lbs at the time he was drafted). He's probably put on some weight since then but I don't envision some skinny Euro coming over and being the defensive solution to Bonzi and Artest...
You are more in touch with the Spurs than I am and I certainly could be wrong about what his talents were...but IIRC Sanikidze was drafted for his offensive skills(this fact has probably been lost because, from what I saw, he got dominated in the French League).
I see him all the time and he's still skinny. Honestly I don't know anything about him. I always thought the scouting reports were that he had a good touch but really bad shooting technique. And that his strengths were his athleticism, long arms, length, rebound and defense. He's really young and I don't think he's played anywhere this whole season. So I honestly don't know what to expect of him.
But he's been hanging out in S.A. all year, so I'm guessing them are expecting him to come on board soon. He'll be in summer league, so we'll get to see what kind of player he is.
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
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Originally Posted by RON ARTEST
jim rome said earlier that the spurs better get their collective shit together or they will be fishing earlier then they thought. much much earlier.
Most hardcore Spurs Fans are well aware of Jim Rome's hatred for the Spurs. But I thought I would let everyone know he is interviewing TP and Horry tomorrow. That is all.
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
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Originally Posted by RON ARTEST
:lol are you serious? bonzi would go right by him. :lol
Not likely, duncan would play off bonzi giving him the jump shot and if bonzi tried to drive Tim would sent that shit to row 9. The point of putting Tim on bonzi when sac. goes small is that it would eliminate the mismatch of bowen, manu, etc. trying to box out bonzi, no way in hell bonzi gets more then 10 rebs with tim boxing him out. no Orebs no 2nd chance points = spurs win by 10
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
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Originally Posted by Slinkyman
Not likely, duncan would play off bonzi giving him the jump shot and if bonzi tried to drive Tim would sent that shit to row 9. The point of putting Tim on bonzi when sac. goes small is that it would eliminate the mismatch of bowen, manu, etc. trying to box out bonzi, no way in hell bonzi gets more then 10 rebs with tim boxing him out. no Orebs no 2nd chance points = spurs win by 10
normally i would agree, but bonzi drove right by tim several times last night and tim basically backed off.
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
Solid evidence, but one just cannot bench Bruce.
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
Should just let Wells get his and shut down the rest of the team. It worked against Phoenix. Rebounds is a problem though.
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
Tim could handle Bonzi. Pop put Timmy on Quentin Richardson in the early games of last seasons WCF, and Q and Bonzi are essentially twins in regards to body size/weight. Tim would back off Q enough so he couldn't drive around him, but his extra height and length was enough to bother Q's jumpshot despite being backed off. Tim on Bonzi for stretches would be a fantastic move.
Benching Bruce, I just don't see it happening. It isn't the worst idea I've ever heard, and I wouldn't be completely against it, I just don't see Pop doing it. Finley definitly has the strength to compete with Bonzi, I laugh when opposing swingmen take Finley down low, he is basically impossible to move once he plants his feet and gets position, the guy is very strong. One problem is with more Finley, I don't like idea of when play is broken and Finley has to pick up lets say Mike Bibby, that's bad news for Fin.
Bottom line though, I just don't see Pop benching Bowen after 4 years of starting him.
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
As if our defense isn't looking bad already... yeah.. let's bench Bowen.
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Re: My solution: Start Finley bench Bruce
[email protected] Wells being 6'5 210. Someone is lying. That guy is easily bigger than Finley and Bowen. He's a big guy. That's why he's having his way with Bowen.