Bucks giving Detroit hell of a fight

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Originally Posted by ducks

how about tj ford

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OVERRATED. All he has is quickness. He tries to speedy gonzalez it to the basket for a layup...realizes his shit'll get blocked....then tries to pass it out, usually out of control, usually ending in a turnonver.

His speed reminds me of Parker alot. But the difference there is that TP is a finisher. He will get his layups. Ford will hesitate, and pull it back.... Unless it's a fastbreak opportunity where he is completely open.

His defense is non-existent.

He is not a good passer in the half court.

He does not create well for his teamates.

He got some jumpers to go in tonight, but over half of those came while Chauncey played well off of him......because he knows Ford is not a threat.

The last game, Ford's stats looked nice (15 assists) because the Bucks hit 60%. Willimas and Redd were on fire.

Ford is a defensive liability, and a turnover waiting to happen.

wallace just lost the max contract he wants

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Originally Posted by DisgruntledLionFan#54,927

Is there a reason McDyess never gets a call? He never, ever gets a borderline call. I don't understand it at all...

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Tell me about it. How frustrated must he be w/ that? So many good plays, and the whistle ALWAYS goes against him.

I am not a big tj fan
I told people here he was not big enough to be a point guard
I just wanted to know what people thought about his game tonight

Bucks series...

Dice: 26.5mpg, 11.5ppg (63%), 9.0rpg, 1.3bpg
Ben: 30.8mpg, 2.5ppg (25%), 9.2rpg, 1.25bpg

WAKE UP BEN! I don't know what his problem is.

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Originally Posted by FreshPrince22

Bucks series...

Dice: 26.5mpg, 11.5ppg (63%), 9.0rpg, 1.3bpg
Ben: 30.8mpg, 2.5ppg (25%), 9.2rpg, 1.25bpg

WAKE UP BEN! I don't know what his problem is.

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Someone needs to tell his wife to yell at him.

I think his hand is really bothering him. He usually doesn't miss so many lay-ups...

Great game by the Bucks look for the knock out Wed at The Palace. Look for Ben to have a monster game and a better shooting game from Rip and Sheed.

I had Pistons in 5, lookin good for me. Goddamn Spurs cleaning out my vbookie.

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Originally Posted by Deb

Damn, Detroit won. I hate that.

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:elephant enjoy it !! DETROIT WON !!! :elephant

Ben was not that bad. When the opposing team shoots 55% from the field, there aren't many rebounds to be had. And, when the opposing team shoots almost all jumpers, there are a lot of long rebounds. Ben never got into a rhythm because of his foul trouble. I don't think he lost a max contract or he needs a talk from his wife. He could definitely play better, but he was not as bad as some of you make it appear. He did miss that bunny where he was calling for a foul ... but he didn't get fouled. He just missed the lay-up. Hopefully, he'll get a better whistle at the Palace.

2. McDyess does not a get a good whistle. But, he usually DOES foul when he gets called. That technical foul was completely justified. He got ticked off at Bogut for tangling with his elbows and Dice lost his cool a little bit. Not a big deal, but the T was justified. And, most of his fouls are also.

3. I like TJ Ford's game. I don't think he has a better jumper than Tony Parker, whoever said that. I think TJ Ford needs a lot of development with his game, but he's come a long way. In college, he had absolutely NO jumper. He's improved it tenfold. It's still not consistent, but from where he was in college, he's much better. He needs to find a little more control. Many of his turnovers were silly mistakes forcing passes or forcing plays that were not there. But, his speed alone forces defenses to play on their heels. He was aggressive and exceptional in the third quarter and single-handedly got the lead for the Bucks in the second half. He will never be a great defender, but that's why the Bucks need a shot-blocker in their frontcourt. TJ Ford is still more of an asset than a liability on the floor for his team. But, he might end up being better suited as a back-up change-of-pace point guard, like Speedy Claxton or Brevin Knight or Earl Boykins.

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

The Pistons were outshot and outrebounded, but won this game because they didn't commit turnovers and got to the FT line.

I remember when the Spurs used to be able to get to the FT line.

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..they used to miss, but at least they got there.

I remember the days when Tim was a guarenteed 10FTA each game in the playoffs too :(

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Originally Posted by MI21

..they used to miss, but at least they got there.

I remember the days when Tim was a guarenteed 10FTA each game in the playoffs too :(

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Yeah, but I think, in the playoffs especially, it's more valuable to be 18-30 from the FT line than it is to be 20-22. More FTA usually translates to more aggressive play and it definitely transplates into more fouls and foul trouble for the other team.

That's the biggest effect of Duncan and Manu having off years.

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Originally Posted by JamStone

2. McDyess does not a get a good whistle. But, he usually DOES foul when he gets called. That technical foul was completely justified. He got ticked off at Bogut for tangling with his elbows and Dice lost his cool a little bit. Not a big deal, but the T was justified. And, most of his fouls are also.

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True, I was just saying he never gets a borderline call...