Excellent win, but, what about Parker?

Excuse me I am not really an active regular, long time lurker. Spurs are my favorite team by far (I grew up in the DFW metroplex), but my dad made me into the Spurs fan I am today, so, do not think I'm a simple bandwagoner for this team. Basketball is a true passion of mine, I play it, love it, and it's a huge part of my life, with that, I can say the Spurs are truly the classiest team in the league and I am happy to be apart of the team's fanbase despite the fact I only spent vacations and a few times in my life in San Antonio.

All throughout the regular season we saw Parker as a great player, always executing on the offensive end, making good shots, we thought he improved dramatically from "Playoff Parker"... but then this series came along.

Is Parker really the future of this franchise? Do you think the team should continue hoping on the fact that "he's young, he'll be more consistant?"

His post season play, while you can say stastically he is way better, but from tonight we see he is making bad decisions and often plays badly during the "really important" games in the post season.

If he continues this bad trend of post season play next post season, do you believe it's time to package him? A player like Ben Gordon would be an excellent addition to the team. Clutch, strong, quick, and just as young. Or do you think they should continue the "Parker is young, he'll be more consistant" thing until Parker eventually is no longer young?

He must be injured. He wasn't even attempting to get to the rim.

Forget the injury, it's the mental thing. Shooting the 3-pointers! That's not what Pop told him FOR SURE!

He was horrible tonight. But he's averaging 20ppg in the series. So I wouldn't give up on him at this point.

(And yes, he's hurt but he was still horrible).

But he did hit his FT's in the clutch.

Hit his fts in the clutch and managed a shot, I was really nervous when pop put him back in, because nick was playing way more careful

Always complaining about something... WGAF...

Spurs won, Game 7 is at home.

And my ass has tickets. :elephant

What about Parker? He hit two clutch free throws at the end.

Team won. Bottom line.

Everyone is entitled to a bad game every now and then, especially those who get kicked in the calf and are injured...

Even Eva was embarassed by the way he played

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/ph...2001_lower.jpg

Parker has a great future ahead of him with the Spurs, I'm sure. He got the Spurs to 63 wins plus some playoff wins this season, seemingly single-handed as the only scorer in many games when the others were hurt. He would have fit right in on one of the All-NBA teams (at least 3rd team with Arenas).

Tonight, TP was clearly dragging his injured leg around. He was stiff-legged and calculated in his movements on D. He advanced the ball up the court as though he were wading through ankle deep water the whole night. He was short on almost every shot (no legs).

He still battled through it and did a great job of doubling Dirk and sagging back on D. He also nailed two HUGE FTs for the last Spurs points tonight.

Clutch is not only those 2 shots. Clutch was most of this game. I can write down tons of clutch shots Spurs players made tonight.

ben gordon #1 isnt a point guard and #2 cant handle the ball like parker, shoots way too many 3s and is always complainning about getting shots, has j-kidd ever been a good shooter? No but parker is still learning hes 24 remember

Pop was having fun with him at righ before the start of the second half! :lol Probably telling him to relax. He redeemed himself with that jump shot and especially the free throws to put it out of reach. He'll kick ass in Game 7.

Waht about him? He disappeared in the 1st 3 Qtrs but contributed some points for us to get the Win.

1. The Mavericks weren't fazed. Devin Harris' 13-foot pull-up put Dallas ahead 81-80 with 3:37 left. The Spurs called timeout. Parker, just 2 for 13 at the time, hit a 19-footer.


2. With Finley pressing him, Nowitzki missed a 3-pointer from the right corner. Parker grabbed the rebound and was fouled with 5.5 seconds left. He made both free throws.

i think it was cool.

I don't think we need to complain...his clutch jump shot and FT's down to the last minute counted when we needed it....

He's obviously hurt, and was mentally shaken....Timmy with foul trouble and Tony can't play worse will hopefully get all the Spurs ready to the blow the Mavs out... 8 points from Tony hopefully is a fluke, and hopefully homecooking will get him back to his normal consistent self--minus the turnovers this time though....

Would not dismiss him just yet!

He has contributed positively in this post-season!

That's the beauty of the Spurs -- different people can step up at different times!
(TD, TP, MANU, FINS....)

The main problem with Parker is not his inconsistency, from an euro point of view (more team-oriented), the main problem with Parker is that, despite being european, he is less team oriented than the average american player...

Parker is a great individual player, with grat specific features (speed and dribbling the main), but a bit one-dimensional, becomes too predictable sometimes, he's far from having more resources when he has a bad night (for isntance, Tim and Manu on bad nights contribute in one or another way, and keep looking the best for the team).

When Parker has good games, he scores a lot, and that's great, but even in those games, we don't see a player with team-awareness as a major priority...that wouldn't matter in another franchise perhaps, but in Spurs, a franchise who is title conteder year after year, perhaps that's not so forgiveable...Spurs and Pistons are more team-oriented, and I'm sure that's not the best for them.

When Parker has a bad night, forget it...as one-dimensional as he is, without scoring, he becomes pretty much useless...

Ok, he made those final FT tonight, but that shouldn't make the people foirget the big picture, don't you think?

Parker was horrible.

However, he settled down in the fourth, played pretty good defense, and hit a big jumper and the FTs.

All this year I think his development as a playmaker has regressed in favor of him scoring, but that's was the conscious decision of the coaches, not him.

Parker was bad through 3 qtrs but got it done in the 4th. You want to know what else about Parker? He kicked ass last game despite being around 50%. The kid has turned the corner, he is just banged up. He will be huge on Monday.

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The main problem with Parker is not his inconsistency, from an euro point of view (more team-oriented), the main problem with Parker is that, despite being european, he is less team oriented than the average american player...

Parker is a great individual player, with grat specific features (speed and dribbling the main), but a bit one-dimensional, becomes too predictable sometimes, he's far from having more resources when he has a bad night (for isntance, Tim and Manu on bad nights contribute in one or another way, and keep looking the best for the team).

When Parker has good games, he scores a lot, and that's great, but even in those games, we don't see a player with team-awareness as a major priority...that wouldn't matter in another franchise perhaps, but in Spurs, a franchise who is title conteder year after year, perhaps that's not so forgiveable...Spurs and Pistons are more team-oriented, and I'm sure that's not the best for them.

When Parker has a bad night, forget it...as one-dimensional as he is, without scoring, he becomes pretty much useless...

Ok, he made those final FT tonight, but that shouldn't make the people foirget the big picture, don't you think?

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Ok, yeah the big picture is he hurt us a lot at the beginning until Coach decided to sub Van Exel who actually helped contribute for the team's ball movement, and Ginobili put the team on his shoulders manning the offense and whatever in the 3rd...By the 4th he seemed more composed. He got a key rebound off of Dirk's Miss also...

But still if he had taken better shots he'd help us pitch in for a bigger lead by the way we've found our defense with this smallball...In the long run Tony, or Pop need to elevate his game so he can do what Tim and Manu do when they're not feeling it offensively, which is play the other end, and make key plays...

Otherwise we're just gonna have to regulate him to SG and get in another Backup PG who's like SPeedy or something, when Nick retires.

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Parker was horrible.

However, he settled down in the fourth, played pretty good defense, and hit a big jumper and the FTs.

All this year I think his development as a playmaker has regressed in favor of him scoring, but that's was the conscious decision of the coaches, not him.

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Yes, he did hit that excellent jumper and his clutch free throws.

It may have not been his best game, but I think we'll keep him!

Hopefully, three days of rest will help him get back on track.

Beno sure as hell didn't make the most of his time on the court -- all 2 seconds of it.

Since I can't photoshop. Tony gets these for the night:

:guin :guin :guin

Tony didnt dish out when he was driving for the layups. If he had some more assists he would kill any team.

No way would I trade him for Gordon. Gordon is just as one dimensional, except he's a shooter. We have enough shooters, the league has enough shooters, it's tough to find a guy like Parker who can break down defenses. Parker is more valuable for sure.

What about TD's shooting? It gets worse and worse it seems. If he still had confidence in that mid range shot he'd be unstoppable. Maybe he should quit the bank shot and work with that shooting coach of Parker's.

C´Mon, he will never be the PG we all ASk for him to be. We all Love him and don´t want to see him traded so, let sign Any decent PG in the league and Make Tony Our first option from the bank. He can still have his minutes and score the same amount of points without any "pressure"

What do you think???? :fro

He had one frickin bad game.

basically he dissappeard in a game that was a must win situation for us, how many games in his playoff career has he dissappeared?

We don't really need a PG like Kidd and Nash who set people up because we have TD in the middle that gets everybody easy shots. He's really our "playmaker" though a lot of those are secondary assists. TP's role is to break down the defense when the Spurs are stagnant. He's among the best in the league at doing that.

NO WAY

think of the franchise & WC best 63 wins Tony carrying us all while Tim is nursing his nagging plantar pasciitis.

let's be patient man. Manu had previous bad games too and still we supported him.

sign Any decent PG in the league and Make Tony Our first option from the bank

We signed Beno.

- He had a bad night offensively (injuries?) in an otherwise good post season.

- He played D (that's what you do when you'r on an off night) that's a sign of maturity

- Look at how much he has improved EVERY year since becoming a Spur. I for one want to see where this leads.

Hey Manu had a few of those vs. Sac! So ease up it was only 1 game, he'll be back!!!

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- He had a bad night offensively (injuries?) in an otherwise good post season.

- He played D (that's what you do when you'r on an off night) that's a sign of maturity

- Look at how much he has improved EVERY year since becoming a Spur. I for one want to see where this leads.

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Couldn't have said it any better, Slomo!

True, Parker sucked. True, it could have been more than injuries that were the culprit.

But his play in the fourth was very good. I was worried when Pop pulled Van Exel, but Pop made the right choice and Parker had some good moments to close it out.

I want him to come back and play big in Game 7. At home with the Mavs doubting themselves is a great time to have a point guard who can ram in down their throats.

I really don't understand how people can even consider trading a guy that has the second highest PPG in the team for the entire playoffs. It was just ONE frigging game! Yes he was awful, but come on! does anyone really believe Tony was himself today and not hampered by injury or something else? This kid is going to come out and make everyone eat their words. I predict a huge performance by Parker in game 7, more than that, I guaransheed it! :D

He had a bad game 'cause Eva wasn't there! :spin

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He had a bad game 'cause Eva wasn't there! :spin

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:rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes

don't worry fans in this forum practically wants to trade every player after a bad game.

if Pops listens to what they say maybe we ended up with only Marks playing for us right now :lol

Ok,ok I missed her!

eva was there

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I really don't understand how people can even consider trading a guy that has the second highest PPG in the team for the entire playoffs. It was just ONE frigging game! Yes he was awful, but come on! does anyone really believe Tony was himself today and not hampered by injury or something else? This kid is going to come out and make everyone eat their words. I predict a huge performance by Parker in game 7, more than that, I guaransheed it! :D

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Why is that hard to understant that IT ISN'T ABOUT THE PPG?
The problem the people worried about Parker's case, even at his best games (when he scores a lot) it that it seems too one-dimensional, too predictable, and with loo little team awareness for a PG, even for a scoring PG (not asking him to become a Nash, for instance)...

If you have basketball experience, you can figure out that perhaps it's the main reason why Pop gives him so much chances to score.

Because aside scoring, there isn't a lot more where he can contribute, well, sometimes a good D, but in offense, he won't bring intelligent play to the offense, so if you want to make him useful, you have to try to make him score, unlike players like Tim or Manu, that can contribute a lot even in bad scoring days, due to their extremedly wide set of resources, skills, and fundamentals.

Spurs could use a good veteran, non flashy backup point guard, to be able to play in hot moments, when instead of scoring, speed and dribbling what is needed is more IQ, in the past Speedy or Kerr filled that role, it seems this year NVE isn't being able to do the same.

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The problem the people worried about Parker's case, even at his best games (when he scores a lot) it that it seems too one-dimensional, too predictable, and with loo little team awareness for a PG, even for a scoring PG (not asking him to become a Nash, for instance)...

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Tony is doing exactly what POP is asking of him. How is that one-dimensional? An NBA player actually doing what is asked of him! OH NO!

Hoops is, always has been, and always will be a game of momentum. This is why within every game there will be many streaks and runs as the momentum of players and teams swing. These swings in momentum swings happen for many reasons. When a star invokes his will, a coach or player capitalizes on a mismatch, a player makes or miss plays a key play, or a zebra gets brainlock and blows a call, player and team confidence and momentum can turn on a dime.

That said, I thought Tony had a rough first half. He missed opportunity to capitalize on some plays we are used to seeing him make, and he had a couple of tough calls go against him. There were a two walks and a charge that went against Tony early. The calls were momentum calls that could have went either way. All three of these plays were spin moves where Tony had acheived an extreme advantage, but was denied opportunity to capitilize. If one, or two or even all three of these calls go Tony's way, as they could have with just a little change in zebra descrition, the whole complexion of his confidence and the face of his game drastically chaTnges.

Tony needs to be applauded for working through the adversity, waiting for the swing in momentum to hit a key shot, snag a crutial rebound and knock down pressure FT's to play a huge part in iceing the game.

COME ON PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!...............Spurs won and that´s the most important thing. If you want to reach the finals you have to play like a team, and it doesnt matter if tony didnt have a great game, spurs must win and that´s it. Why are you always seeking the negative point?????.......This is a TEAM, so if tony played awful, where is the problem???....for that reason this team has other players like manu, tim and finley whose can appear.

I would never trade Tony.

That being said, it is worrisome he tends to disappear in big games.

And yesterday's was the biggest game of the season (so far).

Tony, prove me wrong on Monday!!!!

Tony didn't look well. He seemed sluggish from the start and appeared tired. He almost looked ill. I don't think that what we saw was "past playoff Tony" reappearing. It just wasn't a good night for him and I think that a couple of days off will do him good.

I actually like it when Parker has a bad game. Means he becomes tentative to score and create...and gives the ball to his teamates.

tony hit 2 clutch free throws but also made that 20 foot jump shot in 4
he only missed on shot in 4

Tony needs to work on his game management skills. It's the next area of improvement just like his jumpshooting and free throw shooting was this year, and look what that improvement yielded us. He hit a very important J in the 4th and two clutch free throws. In years past he would have completely crumbled, but he's working on becoming a complete PG instead of just a scorer. Nevertheless, what Tony already brings makes the spurs real tough to beat and in the future if Tony improves even more he'll probably make 1st team all NBA.

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Tony needs to work on his game management skills. It's the next area of improvement just like his jumpshooting and free throw shooting was this year, and look what that improvement yielded us. He hit a very important J in the 4th and two clutch free throws. In years past he would have completely crumbled, but he's working on becoming a complete PG instead of just a scorer. Nevertheless, what Tony already brings makes the spurs real tough to beat and in the future if Tony improves even more he'll probably make 1st team all NBA.

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Right on. It seems as if sometimes he thinks too much and doesn't let the game come to him.

His game management has been atrocious at times this season, but if he ever figures it out, he'll move from a very good player to a great one...

Spurs' Parker adds intensity in second half
Web Posted: 05/20/2006 01:26 AM CDT
Mike Monroe
Express-News Staff Writer

DALLAS — The Spurs trudged off to their locker room at halftime of Game 6 of their NBA Western Conference semifinal series against the Dallas Mavericks, trailing by six and in need of a spark. So coach Gregg Popovich went to the Spur who was struggling more than any other.

As he has on many occasions in the past, Popovich told point guard Tony Parker to get back to being aggressive.

It took Parker a while to apply Popovich's advice, but in the fourth quarter, Parker made one of the biggest shots of the playoffs and two free throws that iced the game.

After his poorest shooting game of the series, it was great consolation to the player who had led the Spurs in scoring in the regular season.

"Is it fair to say I struggle in the first half?" Parker said, grinning. "Oh, yeah. I was on fire."

Parker had scored 60 points in the previous two games, but in the first half Friday he missed 8 of 10 shots and committed three turnovers.

That's why Popovich put his arm around him at halftime and urged him to be the aggressive player who had become an All-Star this season for the first time.

"I was really proud of him," Popovich said. "I talked to him at halftime about how important it was for him to get into that game into the second half. We needed him to be aggressive, both for himself and for his teammates."

Parker believed he had been aggressive enough in the first half, no matter how ineffective.

"I kept shooting," Parker said. "They just didn't go in."

Parker's struggles continued into the third period, when he missed all three of his shots.

Though Popovich had been using his backup, Nick Van Exel, only at the start of the second quarter and fourth quarter in each of the previous five games of the series, he sat Parker with 1:03 left in the third and put Van Exel into the game.

That turned out to be as good a move as encouraging Parker to regain his aggression.

"I thought Nick was really solid while Tony was struggling," Popovich said. "He came in and didn't turn the ball over; moved the ball and got people in position. He got the ball to Timmy (Duncan) the way we needed to get it done.

"He played good defense, was really solid for us. I thought that was huge."

Van Exel had his best game since Game 1 of the first round against Sacramento. Though he scored only two points and had only one assist and two rebounds, he directed the Spurs' half-court offense well, and when he turned things back over to Parker, with 5:04 remaining in the game, the Spurs had an 80-77 lead.

Just one minute, 39 seconds later, Parker drained a 19-foot jumper that gave the Spurs an 82-81 lead, and they never trailed thereafter.

Parker also made two free throws with five-and-a-half seconds left, sealing the Spurs' 91-86 victory.

"I had to just keep being aggressive and hope it would turn around," Parker said. "It was just one of those nights. Nothing is going your way. I was just coming off from two strong games, but tonight was just not my night tonight."

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Spurs' Parker adds intensity in second half
Web Posted: 05/20/2006 01:26 AM CDT
Mike Monroe
Express-News Staff Writer

DALLAS — The Spurs trudged off to their locker room at halftime of Game 6 of their NBA Western Conference semifinal series against the Dallas Mavericks, trailing by six and in need of a spark. So coach Gregg Popovich went to the Spur who was struggling more than any other.

As he has on many occasions in the past, Popovich told point guard Tony Parker to get back to being aggressive.

It took Parker a while to apply Popovich's advice, but in the fourth quarter, Parker made one of the biggest shots of the playoffs and two free throws that iced the game.

After his poorest shooting game of the series, it was great consolation to the player who had led the Spurs in scoring in the regular season.

"Is it fair to say I struggle in the first half?" Parker said, grinning. "Oh, yeah. I was on fire."

Parker had scored 60 points in the previous two games, but in the first half Friday he missed 8 of 10 shots and committed three turnovers.

That's why Popovich put his arm around him at halftime and urged him to be the aggressive player who had become an All-Star this season for the first time.

"I was really proud of him," Popovich said. "I talked to him at halftime about how important it was for him to get into that game into the second half. We needed him to be aggressive, both for himself and for his teammates."

Parker believed he had been aggressive enough in the first half, no matter how ineffective.

"I kept shooting," Parker said. "They just didn't go in."

Parker's struggles continued into the third period, when he missed all three of his shots.

Though Popovich had been using his backup, Nick Van Exel, only at the start of the second quarter and fourth quarter in each of the previous five games of the series, he sat Parker with 1:03 left in the third and put Van Exel into the game.

That turned out to be as good a move as encouraging Parker to regain his aggression.

"I thought Nick was really solid while Tony was struggling," Popovich said. "He came in and didn't turn the ball over; moved the ball and got people in position. He got the ball to Timmy (Duncan) the way we needed to get it done.

"He played good defense, was really solid for us. I thought that was huge."

Van Exel had his best game since Game 1 of the first round against Sacramento. Though he scored only two points and had only one assist and two rebounds, he directed the Spurs' half-court offense well, and when he turned things back over to Parker, with 5:04 remaining in the game, the Spurs had an 80-77 lead.

Just one minute, 39 seconds later, Parker drained a 19-foot jumper that gave the Spurs an 82-81 lead, and they never trailed thereafter.

Parker also made two free throws with five-and-a-half seconds left, sealing the Spurs' 91-86 victory.

"I had to just keep being aggressive and hope it would turn around," Parker said. "It was just one of those nights. Nothing is going your way. I was just coming off from two strong games, but tonight was just not my night tonight."

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PGs are unique in that they can go 0-10 and still dominate a game. I say two years from now Tony will have that in his bag of tricks.

I used to be really hard on Parker, particularly because people here verhyped him.


Since becoming more aggressive and accepting a leadership role, my opinion has changed.

My biggest problem was the lack of assist -- playmaking in general.

He steped that up.

I love the tear-drop.

And how can you complain about his scoring and FG%.

He will be more consistent, but who on the Spurs really is besides Duncan?

Parker is getting ready for Terry.

I don't know if this has been posted but I was surprised when I read it.

MARCUS BANKS ATTRACTING ATTENTION
'Apparently, the Wolves will have tough competition to sign point
guard Marcus Banks, who also is being pursued by the Lakers and
Spurs.

http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba_rumors/index182.html

yes do a search it was posted yesterday

the games tp looks healthy
he kills the mavs
the games he looks hurt he does not

I guarantee that Parker bounces back from his bad game 6. He will be aggressive in game 7.

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yes do a search it was posted yesterday

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My bad!

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the games tp looks healthy
he kills the mavs
the games he looks hurt he does not

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i don't like using injuries as an excuse. I saw Isiah Thomas score 20 in the 4th quarter of a finals game on a severly sprained ankle and a severe limp.

I saw Sean Elliott play at a very high level with one Kidney.

I am glad it is monday
plenty of rest for both teams
get healed up to BATTLE

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I don't know if this has been posted but I was surprised when I read it.

MARCUS BANKS ATTRACTING ATTENTION
'Apparently, the Wolves will have tough competition to sign point
guard Marcus Banks, who also is being pursued by the Lakers and
Spurs.

http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba_rumors/index182.html

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That kinda makes sense with the number of smaller guard rotations in the league and the fact that Manu seems permanently stuck around an average of 30 minutes a game. I think it's clear that the Spurs will need to upgrade the backup point spot this offseason. Beno's tenure with the Spurs might be coming to an end.

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i don't like using injuries as an excuse. I saw Isiah Thomas score 20 in the 4th quarter of a finals game on a severly sprained ankle and a severe limp.

I saw Sean Elliott play at a very high level with one Kidney.

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thomas was how old then?

sean played how long before then? was he a point guard?



I do not like injuries as an excuse or a fact either
but one big part of tp's game is his speed
he is working on his jumper
wants to work on his three point shooting in offseason

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i don't like using injuries as an excuse. I saw Isiah Thomas score 20 in the 4th quarter of a finals game on a severly sprained ankle and a severe limp.

I saw Sean Elliott play at a very high level with one Kidney.

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Isiah scored 25 points in the 3rd Q of G6 in the 1988 NBA Finals.

He was only out for 35 seconds after spraining the ankle. He finished the night with a jammed left pinkie, a poked eye, a scratched face, a ballooned ankle, 43 points, 8 assists, 6 steals, and enough respect to last a lifetime.

http://www.nba.com/history/isiahheroic_moments.html

Tony was horrible last night. So bad I was considering changing my screen name if the Spurs had lost :)

However, he did look a bit slow out there so I'm hoping that the 2 days off will do him some good. He averaged 30 some points the past two games and I have no doubt he can give us 30 again.

My biggest gripe with Parker last night was that he didn't seem to run the offense well when his shots weren't falling. There were two plays in a row last night where Parker had two awesome back to back assists where he penetrated, drew in the defense and passed to Finley and next to Duncan that helped the Spurs gain momemtum. I just wished he had done more of that instead of settle for some of those crazy 3 point shots he did.

Lucky for Tony, Harris was just as bad yesterday so they sort of offset each other. Game 7 is Do or Die, hopefully everyone on the Spurs from Parker to Beno brings it :)

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Excuse me I am not really an active regular, long time lurker. Spurs are my favorite team by far (I grew up in the DFW metroplex), but my dad made me into the Spurs fan I am today, so, do not think I'm a simple bandwagoner for this team. Basketball is a true passion of mine, I play it, love it, and it's a huge part of my life, with that, I can say the Spurs are truly the classiest team in the league and I am happy to be apart of the team's fanbase despite the fact I only spent vacations and a few times in my life in San Antonio.

All throughout the regular season we saw Parker as a great player, always executing on the offensive end, making good shots, we thought he improved dramatically from "Playoff Parker"... but then this series came along.

Is Parker really the future of this franchise? Do you think the team should continue hoping on the fact that "he's young, he'll be more consistant?"

His post season play, while you can say stastically he is way better, but from tonight we see he is making bad decisions and often plays badly during the "really important" games in the post season.

If he continues this bad trend of post season play next post season, do you believe it's time to package him? A player like Ben Gordon would be an excellent addition to the team. Clutch, strong, quick, and just as young. Or do you think they should continue the "Parker is young, he'll be more consistant" thing until Parker eventually is no longer young?

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TP has been very consistent this year and is the BEST penetrating guard in basketball. He is young and goes into "stupid mode" every so often, but it is Pop's job to shake him up, which he does, and correct his mental lapses.

I see TP as a franchise player, NO ONE can guard him one on one. Yes, I think he has a bright future with the Spurs. As a human, he is entitled to bad games, Manu, Timmy both have them.

Parker was being used defensively last night, he did play bad and made some very quesitonable decisions with teh ball, but he did nothing "Bad" last night that stands out if you take a look at the entire series.

He still took the same early stupid jump shots, still dominated the ball at times, but he was being used in a defensive role last night for sure. I do not think he is that injured.
Pop monitored Parker's minutes and towards the end of the game I felt it was clear Pop was using him with defense in mind.

I think it worked. He did a pretty good job when he'd get back with all his energy. I was even expecting a classic parker steal-dunk combo. Maybe next game :smchode:

GO SPURS fuck all the haters

Spurschick, I agree. Tony looked dead from the beginning, walking the ball across mid-court and dumping a pass on someone rather than probing and attacking.

That used to be a pretty reliable indicator in the early minutes of his entire game, but this year he could be in that mode but still hit jumpers. He was totally bad last night until he scored those crunch time points.

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Originally Posted by DisgruntledLionFan#54,927

Isiah scored 25 points in the 3rd Q of G6 in the 1988 NBA Finals.

He was only out for 35 seconds after spraining the ankle. He finished the night with a jammed left pinkie, a poked eye, a scratched face, a ballooned ankle, 43 points, 8 assists, 6 steals, and enough respect to last a lifetime.

http://www.nba.com/history/isiahheroic_moments.html

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After 18 years my memory is a little off. Isiah maybe my favorite player ever. He's a horrible GM and Coach though.

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

He was horrible tonight. But he's averaging 20ppg in the series. So I wouldn't give up on him at this point.

(And yes, he's hurt but he was still horrible).

But he did hit his FT's in the clutch.

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Yap Kori, 20 ppg but in How many shots?

In all the series Tony is:

117 Points in 110 Shots: 1.06 PPS (18.3 APG), when Duncan with 10 more have 185: 1,54 PPS (68 more), Manu with 31 less attempts have 9 Points more: PPS (126 Total Points)

But he have Only 2.8 Assists too, less than the half of the regular season

He´s 40% from the field, but in my mint he´s played better than his horribles stats, the 82-81 basquet was so great and his Clutch FT too, but in the second Q, with TD in fouls troubles, we needed some help from Tony, and he dissapear. Thanks god that Finley is in the team, because that help came from him.

stop complaining about tony i said he has won more games for us than any other spur this season

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After 18 years my memory is a little off. Isiah maybe my favorite player ever. He's a horrible GM and Coach though.

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He is the most tenacious player I have ever seen. And yes, that includes MJ...

Parker comes up MONSTER at home.

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Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded

stop complaining about tony i said he has won more games for us than any other spur this season

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Every Body says when the PO Starts, does not concern all the fact during the regular season, it is necessary to begin again, and the same in each series
Therefore if you take to the team to be #1 and later you do not render, the one of the regular series it falls in a barrel bottomless so is thus, that for example, the Star Game, does not contemplate that it became in the sudden death, but only in the regular series, when would have to contemplate the whole season from a juice to the other

You can be the #1 in the Regular season and in this point, you don´t won anything

Probably that the reason of high productivity of Manu

In FIBA every year you play Matchups, the WC or the Olympics are only one games of elimination, so you learn to play that games, in the NBA in a few times you play like that, the 7th Game of the Finals and now, 3 games streak of Win or Go home

In TP's defense, he drove a couple of occasions but couldn't draw the foul. The refs didn't give him or Harris the calls they were each getting in the earlier games. In fact, the refs let them play last night which was great.

TP needs to knock down a couple of perimeter shots. His confidence in the jumper is probably at the lowest point all season. I hope Pop tries to get him a couple of jumpers early on Monday to build his confidence backup. His shot has improved. I just don't think he believes in it right now.

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Every Body says when the PO Starts, does not concern all the fact during the regular season, it is necessary to begin again, and the same in each series
Therefore if you take to the team to be #1 and later you do not render, the one of the regular series it falls in a barrel bottomless so is thus, that for example, the Star Game, does not contemplate that it became in the sudden death, but only in the regular series, when would have to contemplate the whole season from a juice to the other

You can be the #1 in the Regular season and in this point, you don´t won anything

Probably that the reason of high productivity of Manu

In FIBA every year you play Matchups, the WC or the Olympics are only one games of elimination, so you learn to play that games, in the NBA in a few times you play like that, the 7th Game of the Finals and now, 3 games streak of Win or Go home

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He had one bad game--his antics in the reg season have put is in a home court position to beat the mavs in game 7. He's playing bad ass this playoff season, he had one bad game.
And he still did great defensively last night but is not getting much props for that.
When was the last time he had two bad games in a row like manu last series? Both have to play off the hook for us to blow them out but if one of them are playing well we can still win.

You know i have been watching the game again, and i was carefully looking at each tony´s movements. His problem is something that he has to learn from a teammate like manu is. It just seems that when he cant score the game is over for him, and that´s a great problem because he is the PG of this team, he is not lebron james or kobe bryant. As i say he is the PG so he must try to involve his teammates into the game if he cant score. When i referred he has to learn something about manu, i meant, he must try to help the team doing other things. If you cant score, OK, you can defend, you can assist, you can rebound, etc. So there are a lot of little aspects inside basketball which can carry you to help your team. And certainly, that´s what manu always does when he is not in his best night, he does all the little things that help a team, for that reason the different coaches in the nba love him, because he is always thinking which could be the best way to help his team to reach the victory. Anyway, as i always say tony is still a young guy, and he can learn a lot of things which are going to be very useful for his future.

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Originally Posted by SouthernFried

I actually like it when Parker has a bad game. Means he becomes tentative to score and create...and gives the ball to his teamates.

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Rrrrrrright. Shooting long distance jumpers and 3-pointers would be more accurate!

I can't wait until Tony can shoot three-pointers again. That'd make the Spurs offense so deadly. As it is, I expect him to come out and play well on Monday.

No excuses.

One more win.

these two days off give Tony the rest he needed.

I expect him to come out in the first half and dominate as usual, and then Ginobili takes over in the second half.

Duncan dominating throughout the game.

When Tony is not on his game he needs to find a way to contribute. I mentioned in a post a few moons ago and stated that he 'moped' when he struggles. I find myself screaming at the TV and begging Tony to not continually drive and force up shots.... He did come through when it mattered but hopefully he continues to evolve. Confidence is important but let's face it Tony is not the 'man' on this team he is the third peg in the cog..

Tony will need to be on top of his game to cancel out Jason Terry.

Having an entire weekend to recover is nothing but good news for Tony. I expect him to return to beast form on Monday.

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You know i have been watching the game again, and i was carefully looking at each tony´s movements. His problem is something that he has to learn from a teammate like manu is. It just seems that when he cant score the game is over for him, and that´s a great problem because he is the PG of this team, he is not lebron james or kobe bryant. As i say he is the PG so he must try to involve his teammates into the game if he cant score. When i referred he has to learn something about manu, i meant, he must try to help the team doing other things. If you cant score, OK, you can defend, you can assist, you can rebound, etc. So there are a lot of little aspects inside basketball which can carry you to help your team. And certainly, that´s what manu always does when he is not in his best night, he does all the little things that help a team, for that reason the different coaches in the nba love him, because he is always thinking which could be the best way to help his team to reach the victory. Anyway, as i always say tony is still a young guy, and he can learn a lot of things which are going to be very useful for his future.

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Also a great thing Manu did last night was give that 4th quarter assist to Tony to take that 19 ft. Jumper...even when Tony stunk and missed good looks, Manu throwing that dish was nice gesture that despite his off-night he still had confidence in him to take the open shot...How many other players in the NBA have that ultimate teammate concept going in their minds...Everyone woulda passed on Tony by the way he was playing.

I think Tony has a good situation, he will take a lot from Tim and Manu, two of the most competitive players in the league.