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I don't know about his ass, and I don't want to guess anything about yours.
Nevertheless, Rasho should guard Dampier/Diop, Duncan on Dirk. Duncan shouldn't have to guard Dirk to tight. Dirk will score his 30 points regardless of who is guardning him, but Rasho would stop Mav's layup parade.
Timmy guards Dirk= 3 fouls in the 1st half of game 6, 11 minutes played.Quote:
Originally Posted by ata
Timmy guards Dirk= Dirk steps on his foot and Timmy gets whistled for it, 6th foul on Timmy.
Timmy guards Dirk= bad, period.
Rasho in the game= less offense
Rasho in the game= Mavs still blow by him to the bucket
Rasho in the game= bad, period.
Oh, and don't be talking smack about my ass. I didn't get personal and there is no reason for you to, either. Besides, you couldn't handle this ass anyways.
With Terry back the Spurs have no choice but to go back to all-small-ball. Horry did a decent job in Game 6, he's really picked up the pace of his game. I can see where he'll get some burn Monday.
link to where I insulted you? lolQuote:
Since you can't rationally defend it, better to just stick with insults. As I said, that's just lame.
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I can't believe some of you clowns are advocating putting Duncan on Dirk.
DONT YOU WANT DUNCAN TO PLAY!?!??
God.....
So getting personal and smacking players is OK, geting personal with posters is not OK. Hypocrisy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melmart1
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Originally Posted by ploto
Exactly how is he going to do any worse?
What's Dirk hitting against us right now? about 27-29 PPG on 50% shooting? Plus he's pulling down about 10 boards a game? Getting to the line 10+ times per game?
Look the whole reason we are using smaller player to defend him is to try and turn him into a driver...it aint working, he's just adjusted and is shooting over them...and when he is driving it usually ends up being a foul on Duncan or a score...
My logic is that if Dirk is going to own us...we might as well put Bruce on someone he can be effective against(and stay out of foul trouble against as well) like Jason Terry...and get some rebounding(the Mavs are killing us on offensive glass) and secondary shotblocking in there(to protect Duncan).
I think Nazr, Rasho and Horry all have something to offer situationally.
I think Horry can be effective against Dirk in spurts...he used to guard Dirk all the time with LA, he guarded Garnett, he guarded Webber...and he guarded Duncan, and he did all of that well. Yes he's old and slow...but he is excellent at forcing turnovers still...and more importantly, he's freaking Robert Horry. I have no doubts Horry could have figured out Dirk's tendencies if given the opportunity.
Me saying that Rasho is slow and you posting a video of a girl who takes it up the ass and says it reminds you of me are two completely different things.Quote:
Originally Posted by ata
I defy you to find a single person on this board who will say that Rasho ISNT slow.
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Originally Posted by Melmart1
Rasho and Nazr can both suck...but Rasho hardly ever sucks defensively, even when's forced to defend the basket against guys like Kobe or Dwayne Wade...Rasho is exceptional at doing this, and he is a disruptive force to any teams interior game. He can shoot if he wants to, but defensively he keeps people out of the paint effectively.
Nazr is...well it's just about which Nazr going to show up. If Nazr is on his game(holding on to the ball), rebounding well, and not blowing his defensive assignment, the Mavericks get routed. Nazr can look awful..but he can also make a teams interior defense look like paper mache.
They both have something to offer, situationally if nothing else.
I get nervous because we have the weakest/oldest/least athletic part of our team, going up against the strongest, youngest, most athletic parts of the Mavs team...
How long is our 60 year old swing rotation of offensive players going to be effective having to run all over the court to doubleteam, rebound and defend?
Experience is fantastic...but at some point youth will be served.
I agree with most of what you are saying, especially with Rasho being great defensively. But against smaller lineup, historically he is awful. And don't even get me started on Nazr.Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
Against smaller lineups, Rasho is just not effective, period. And Duncan guarding Dirk means foul trouble. He can NOT get into foul trouble tomorrow like he did in game 6 and expect the Spurs to only be trailing by 6 at the half.
ata, save the links to your mother's home videos..
And Rasho is slooooooooooow...so don't even go there and damn sure don't take it personally.
I truly apologize if you understand that link personally. I truly do, that was not my intention.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melmart1
It was just association I got, and that is why I allso wrote "totaly of topic".
I apologize again, link was not ment to smack you.
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Must resist the temptation... ;)
Apology accepted. I like Rasho, I really do. A helluva lot more than Nazr. But the fact remains that the guy is too slow to guard the fast lineup of the Mavs.Quote:
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Originally Posted by whottt
Point taken, link deleted.Quote:
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I not argue speed, I argue how speed was mentioned. I am just sick of how he/she mentioned that Rasho is slow. I am sick of how some posteres here (naming themselves fans) are able to smack any player of our team at any given time (with exception of TD and TRob, of course).
Smacking some person, which is unable to defend itself is just not what I am used to.
If you put a big on Dirk that big's not going to help much with shotblocking and rebounding, unless you want Dirk taking OPEN shots now. I know the Spurs aren't exactly shutting Dirk down, but we're talking about one game here, and if you start trying to guard him with Rasho or Nazr (while they simulateneously try to help in the paint) you could give up 40 or 50 to this guy. We're talking about a very talented scorer (understatement of the fucking year), and now is not the time to try to get cute.
Nazr covering Dirk would be such a clusterfuck.
With refs calling the ticky-tack, you can't put Duncan on Dirk or Dirk on Duncan.
Rasho on Dirk? Dirk dribbles right by him into fouls on Duncan.
Nazr on Dirk? The problem is that Nazr can't be counted on for anything resembling smarts on the floor no matter who he guards.
So, you put a smaller, quicker person on Dirk to keep Dirk from the basket (and getting fouls on Duncan). Dirk can shoot that fadeaway anytime he like, and the game is over if he shoots a higher percentage. That's the way it goes.
On the offensive end, Nazr and Rasho would just get in the way of Duncan. The Mavs rotate pretty fast and pretty well on defense, so spreading out the floor with shooters gets space for Duncan.
Seriously, Pop has got to be one of the most overrated coaches in NBA history. He's won because he has had superior talent. He is not good at all at making adjustments. Phil Jackson outcoached him when the Lakers beat us a couple of years ago. They made the adjustments, we didnt. The pick and roll was killing the Lakers and for some reason, we abandoned it.
Robert Horry should be guarding Dirk. He wont shut him down but he wont have 20+ rebounds either and Horry has long arms which are more difficult to shoot over. Bench Bowen and let him come off first. Problem is Pop wouldn't dream of doing something like that even when Bonzi Wells was killing us.
Yeah, I will probably get flamed for this post but it is on point.
The one time or so Nazr was in, GNob did a nifty shake n bake down the key. No looked it to Nazr for the easy slam, and chalk up another momentum changing assist to GNob.
Wrong. Butterfingers let it slip thru his hands and out of bounds.
Not saying it would have given Nazr more PT or that Nazr/Rash is the way to go, just saying i have no doubt he F'd up his chances for more time on that play. LJ, Kori, not to turn this into a Nazr Roast but I am assuming the Spurs coaches have practiced to the 10th power with Nazr on holding onto those passes. True, you guys hear anything as such? Seems he is just not wired to do it.
Mel hit the nail on the head earlier and almost everyone has ignored it. Yes, putting Rasho in would help us on the defensive end, but Pop feels what would be gained on the defensive end would be more than lost on the offensive end where Rasho would hurt the team.
It is what it is. We're going to play small ball whether anyone likes it or not. At least with Finley getting more burn he is producing. They've also figured out a better way to defend the Mavs in six straight quaters, so hopefully that keeps up.
7 game series are won with adjustments. If the last defensive adjustment Pop made holds, then the Spurs will win this series.
Maybe I needed to start my own thread so that people can see my point. I am having insecurity issues!Quote:
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
Actually I disagree with both of you. Pop believes that Rasho would not be effective defensively because there is no one for him to cover that matches up. The notion that Rasho hurts the team offensively is untrue. The penetration he helps to create for Tony and the screens he sets for Manu and Finley are valuable. Just because he isn't shooting does not mean he hurts the team offensively. As for getting in Tim's way on the offenisve end- that is Nazr's problem, not Rasho's.
I also think that Finley is outplaying Horry and that is why we are seeing even more small ball.
I think your insult was LAME.Quote:
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That's the funny thing, yeah. We didn't stop Dirk.Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt