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And I am quite happy with Robert Horry on the bench and will feel that way for the rest of his career...anyone that doesn't like seeing Robert Horry on that bench, in any role, at any age, hasn't been watching the NBA for the last 15 years. IF Horry is on there as the 11th man that is ok with me...it'll be a better bench than if he isn't on it.
Rob will continue to play a key role for us in certain playoff situations. Having a guy will all those rings on our roster makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
I'm glad he wants two more years after this. . .I'd like to see him run out of fingers for rings.
Horry may not be hitting the threes (yet), but he's playing ball, good D and getting rebounds, right?
We'll need him to single-handedly win a Game in Detroit again this year...
Last Game he had 6 points, 4 rebounds, a steal, and 2 blocked shots in 17 minutes.
That's not bad...
Dear Pop and RC,Quote:
Originally Posted by picnroll
Please purge some of the age on this team and inject it with a couple of younger, more athletic players. You'll be wise to do so if you expect to hold off the Mavs, Suns and Kings in coming seasons.
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Originally Posted by SenorSpur
Fixed that for ya...
Lest whottt forget Barry had a foot and four toes out the door. Saved by a funeral. Pop knows what needs addressing.
Not everyone needs to go but you can bet the only ones that Pop is not going to tinker with in trade talk are the big three. Maybe Finley out of honoring his decision to come here.
lol
nice fix whottt.
I think the additions of Sanikidze, javtokas, and whoever else they get to back up Parker next year fix this, a Claxton or Bobby Jackson hopefully.
and as shown in these playoffs, when conserved, he can play heavy minutes come playoff time, AND , produce.Quote:
Maybe Finley out of honoring his decision to come here.
I agree Finley has been great but Pop will use his assets to adress his weaknesses. Finley might be off limits for that.
I agree that we shouldn't jettison our experienced players. And young isn't worth much unless we get guys who can actually give us good minutes with the season on the line -- sorry, Beno.Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
Still, we need to start developing the guys who are going to be playing those key minutes in a couple of years, because we have several key guys who aren't real far from the end of their careers.
And it is very arguable on if we'd still be playing right now if we had done that trade....Quote:
Originally Posted by picnroll
And I say this as a guy very unhappy with Barry's passing of late...IDGAF what he is shooting...he's making too many TO's.
But he's still better, at least for right now, than JR Smith would have been.
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Not everyone needs to go but you can bet the only ones that Pop is not going to tinker with in trade talk are the big three. Maybe Finley out of honoring his decision to come here.
Ahhh but I have recently come across some information(from legendary Spurs FA and Draft analyst Cleve Steamer) that the piece we need can be added to the team without us giving up a thing...
Stay tuned:
That's Trevor Ariza in case you were wondering...JR who?
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But he's still better, at least for right now, than JR Smith would have been.
How do you know?
Hes athetlic, and shoots 40% from threes.
On top of that, hes got kind of a Stephen Jackson chip on his shoulder.
I think the piece your talking about is in the draft, is it not Whottt?
Agree it may have been a fatal mistake but it probably shows you where Pop is heading.
JR Smith>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Trevor Ariza
Ariza doesn't have the outside game that Smith does.
Plus Smith is younger.
JR Smith most assuredly not better than Trevor Ariza...he's damn sure not a better defender.
Outside game is the only thing Ariza does not have...absolutely the only thing...he's 21. And his intensity and work ethic is unquestionable.
Ariza would be a nice pickup. Ariza plus Banks would instantly solve the Spurs youth, athlecitism, to some extent rebounding from the 3 and would gives the Spurs some very tough second unit D.
One thing is some talented young guys have to be looking at the Spurs and seeing windows of opportunity with the Spurs age. And Pop has earned some players some nice contracts on or off the Spurs.
Why would anyone ever consider trading FIN after the last couple of games? He's the guy playing with the most heart out there except for maybe Tim, he even took one in the balls for this team! Dude has hit big shots night after night (2 big shots that went unnoticed because we ended up with the loss, game 3 round 1, and game 4 round 2) and played with fire this whole series not to mention was a key factor in winning the last two games.
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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
Who the fuck is Jessica???!!!!!! :cuss :huh
TPark...this JR Smith:
.R. Smith | 23
Season statistics & Notes Season splits Game-by-game stats Bio Printable player file
2005-06
Statistics
PPG 7.7
RPG 2.00
APG 1.1
EFF + 6.15
Position: G
Born: Sep 9, 1985
Height: 6-6 / 1,98
Weight: 220 lbs. / 99,8 kg.
High School : St. Benedict's Prep (Newark, NJ)
Career Highlights
got milk? Rookie of the Month in Jan., Feb. and March during 2004-05 season
Recorded career-high 33 points and six 3-point field goals vs. Memphis (3/26/2005)
2005-06 Statistics
REBOUNDS PER GAME
Team G GS MPG FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
NOK 55 25 18.0 144-366 .393 52-140 .371 83-101 .822 .3 1.7 2.0 1.1 .67 .07 .98 1.60 7.7
CAREER AVERAGES
REBOUNDS PER GAME
YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
04-05 NOH 76 56 24.5 .394 .288 .689 .5 1.5 2.0 1.9 .72 .14 1.43 1.80 10.3
05-06 NOK 55 25 18.0 .393 .371 .822 .3 1.7 2.0 1.1 .67 .07 .98 1.60 7.7
Career 131 81 21.7 .394 .316 .740 .4 1.6 2.0 1.5 .70 .10 1.24 1.70 9.2
This is Trevor Ariza:
Position: F
Born: Jun 30, 1985
Height: 6-8 / 2,03
Weight: 210 lbs. / 95,3 kg.
College : UCLA
Head-to-Head Comparisons
2005-06 Statistics
REBOUNDS PER GAME
Team G GS MPG FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
NYK 36 10 19.7 61-146 .418 1-3 .333 42-77 .545 1.4 2.4 3.8 1.3 1.19 .25 1.28 2.20 4.6
ORL 21 0 13.8 32-80 .400 0-2 .000 35-50 .700 1.4 2.5 3.9 .7 .67 .10 .76 1.00 4.7
-- 57 10 17.5 93-226 .412 1-5 .200 77-127 .606 1.4 2.5 3.8 1.1 1.00 .19 1.09 1.80 4.6
CAREER AVERAGES
REBOUNDS PER GAME
YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
04-05 NYK 80 12 17.3 .442 .231 .695 1.1 1.9 3.0 1.1 .88 .23 .91 1.90 5.9
05-06 NYK 36 10 19.7 .418 .333 .545 1.4 2.4 3.8 1.3 1.19 .25 1.28 2.20 4.6
05-06 ORL 21 0 13.8 .400 .000 .700 1.4 2.5 3.9 .7 .67 .10 .76 1.00 4.7
05-06 -- 57 10 17.5 .412 .200 .606 1.4 2.5 3.8 1.1 1.00 .19 1.09 1.80 4.6
Career 137 22 17.4 .431 .222 .658 1.2 2.1 3.4 1.1 .93 .20 .99 1.80 5.3
Ariza is taller and longer, he's a better rebounder and defender and he's a good inside scorer...and he's got a work ethic...kid won a spot in a big market rotation at the age of 19....
I don't like trotting 6'6 guys out there on Nowtizki...that's what we are doing right now...I think that sucks.
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Originally Posted by picnroll
I am not too uptodate on the Banks situation but I doubt we get him...
But let's just say we could...
So you add Banks, Ariza(said to be signable at 2.5 mil), Javtokas...
All of a sudden that bench looks shit hot...and we still have Barry, Finley and Horry, Bowen and Rasho or Nazr......and probably Oberto.
Is age a problem then? No it isn't...
But I'd say just adding Ariza and Javtokas...which is easily doable with the MLE and no trades involved...fixes all the teams major needs(except PG)...
I mean yeah we are still old at the 2...but we'd have Manu, Finley and Barry to plug in there...I'd trade youth for that kind of depth at one position.
IOW...these problems we face are easily fixed without blowing up our bench, fantasy land trades, and dumping, most notably, ROBERT FREAKING HORRY, ARE YOU PEOPLE FREAKING INSANE!
He signed a 3 year deal in the summer, so that means this year and another 2 years
Spurs HAVE to sign a backup PG. I recognize that the Beno experiment isn't working. Some of the Spurs opposition, some major, can throw two good PGs at them in small ball, Paul and Claxton, Terry and Harris to name a couple. Spurs need to counter that. They also need a physicl quick PG. AS good a year as Parker has had there are times where he's scored a lot and given up a lot. NVE was no solution to the Spurs backup PG situation, that's not something I want to live through next year. So if not Banks, someone. He's the best solution I see if Spurs can land him.
imo Spurs would like to lose some salary and avoid the luxury tax or minimize how far they go into it, particularly if they spend the MLE. So they'll make some moves to do that.
Well yeah...and Shaq is the best solution at C if the Spurs can land him...
The impression I get is that Banks tore it up with Minnesota and they have no intention of letting him go...and it's even less likely they are going to let him go if Garnett starts making noises about wanting out.
I could be wrong...but didn't Banks finish the season as Minny's starter?