Official Early Offseason Thread(we only need 1 right now peeps)

What changes need to be done to get back our championship?

When are teams allowed to start trading players?

Fuck trading Barry, send Tony packing before anyone else. Im sick of watching him do his best David Copperfield impression in the playoffs.

be glad that NVE is retiring. He didnt deserve a ring.........Develop Udrih and get a young swing player.........

thats my thoughts but i wouldnt change much considering how this series was

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Originally Posted by Slinkyman

When are teams allowed to start trading players?

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tomorrow.

Not soon enough

How about this: We act like we know what the ball is doing under our court and take it. Remember how Rodman used to do it? Yeah. He acted like an NFL lineman with no pads on a basketball court. That would be my FIRST request. TAKE THE GOD DAMMED BALL.

Next I say we act like we have a game plan and ram that ball into the hoop. WE NEED TO SCORE.

I'd say those 2 plans would cure a few things that ail us.

a long rebounding 3

Trade Barry would be operation #1 if i were GM.

Next motion: "Operation Long three" -- one thats not in advanced stages of rigor mortis.

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Originally Posted by mrpach

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agree.

As soon as the Hornets will pick up the phone.

ditch barry, VE, finley, oberto, Nazr, Marks, and whatever scrub is still on the team.

Tony should be sent away for PG who likes to............ i don't know..................PASS


I seriously could give a FUCK if he was our leading scorer in the reg season, where is he now???


this is 3 years in a row he's been ass in when it counts

If we're going to play small, we need some strong, athletic smalls. And a legit back up point would be nice. Oh, and a center.

Shit, we have a lot of holes for a team that was a eyelash away from advancing. :p

Spurs need to select James White from Cincy in the 2nd round of the draft. That would be our young athletic defensive minded long three.

Get rid of Bowen. How stupid of him to NOT foul dirk and let him get a three point play. Plus all those dang threes he missed. Thanks for everything though, you have been great but now its time to move on.

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Originally Posted by judaspriestess

Get rid of Bowen. How stupid of him to NOT foul dirk and let him get a three point play. Plus all those dang threes he missed. Thanks for everything though, you have been great but now its time to move on.

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I think you would need to be the first to go instead.

You guys are stupid if you wanna trade parker now, he made a major leap towards becoming one of the best PGs in the league this year and will be even better next season, and he's only 24 years old! He had ONE bad game all post season and you act like he's terrible? whatever.

Brent Barry needs to go, old man bones just isn't cutting it anymore.

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Originally Posted by mrpach

a long rebounding 3

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No Shit. We've needed that for YEARS. It beat our ass tonight. :(

^ :tu

What we need is a back-up PG who can actually play. I am glad NVE is gone

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Originally Posted by infinite styles

Spurs need to select James White from Cincy in the 2nd round of the draft. That would be our young athletic defensive minded long three.

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He likely won't be available when we will draft.

tony longoria is the most overrated pg in the league, but i don't want us to trade him, i want us to sign a real pg that doesn't choke cough speedy cough to back him up in games that actually matter

i can't wait to see barry gone, and i hope it's to the worse team like we did to malik (damn i miss that guy) and i hope he rots on the bench where ever he goes

Yeah, because Brent's four touches cost us this game. The Spurs didn't get their bench involved at all and once again it cost them. The bench only took six shots, this game was on the starters and they were the ones who couldn't get it done.

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Originally Posted by infinite styles

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dude he's 35 and at the tail end of his career and tonight was proof!! :depressed

there are alot of long 3s that can rebound becoming FAs this year, amoung them Jarried Jeffries and Jumaine Jones both of whom are excellent defenders. Wouldn't mind either wearing silver and black next season.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

He likely won't be available when we will draft.

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He will be if we can work out a trade to move up in the draft. Barry and the rights to Scola for White and a veteran. :angel I've always like White since he was in HS always reminded me of a poor man's Tayshawn Prince.

Just get healthy! This team can win a title without really making changes. But, a decent Center (Pryzbilla anyone?) would be nice.

Sign Scola, and sign-and-trade Mohammed for whatever the hell we can get for that bum. Tell Rasho to retire so we can get him off our cap in a year.

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Originally Posted by Gerryatrics

Yeah, because Brent's four touches cost us this game. The Spurs didn't get their bench involved at all and once again it cost them. The bench only took six shots, this game was on the starters and they were the ones who couldn't get it done.

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watch out, we just may ship brent back to seattle where he belongs! :lol Barry for wilcox!

No way in hell the Sonics give up Wilcox for Barry, but I certainly wouldn't mind seeing him in Seattle again.

We "didnt get our bench involved" cuz they sure werent showing they could play.

You think Pop would play a center like Pryz? If the league has really changed so that you can't even put solid centers like Nazr/Rasho on for the whole game then we'll have to get our rebounding from long 3's like above posters have said.
I don't know about our defense, just play old men with no lateral quickness( Horry, Finley, Barry, Van X) less so TD doesn't always end up out of position for the boards and get into foul trouble.

base would you trade rasho for pj brown (one year contract)

Why does everyone hate Nazr? He hasn't been a bum. He hasn't even had a chance in the playoffs. Be played very well in the regular season.

sign this kid

http://www.virovitica-online.com/kol...0_003001_1.jpg

Anyone who wants to trade Parker must not have been a fan in the days of Negele Knight, Vinny Del Negro, Chris Whitney, Avery Johnson, and Terry Porter running our teams.

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Originally Posted by Slydragon

sign this kid

http://www.virovitica-online.com/kol...0_003001_1.jpg

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:lmao

yeah - every team needs a ball hog :drunk

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Originally Posted by Nero

Why does everyone hate Nazr? He hasn't been a bum. He hasn't even had a chance in the playoffs. Be played very well in the regular season.

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i'll admit - Nazr hustles and he tries oh baby he tries... btu he; giot fucking butter fingers.
His hands are allergic to the ball.

We need people who can rebounding, long 3 would be nice and a back-up PG who can actually play

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sign this kid

http://www.virovitica-online.com/kol...0_003001_1.jpg

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:lmao :lmao

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Originally Posted by ducks

base would you trade rasho for pj brown (one year contract)

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Oh, come on. PJ would really help us in this series...

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Anyone who wants to trade Parker must not have been a fan in the days of Negele Knight, Vinny Del Negro, Chris Whitney, Avery Johnson, and Terry Porter running our teams.

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Man. Vinny D was our starting PG wasn't he? dayum.. :drunk

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Originally Posted by ducks

base would you trade rasho for pj brown (one year contract)

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I would trade Rasho for freaking Kwame Brown. I would trade him for UPS Brown. I would trade Nesterovich for Wilt right now.

learn to rebound

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Originally Posted by Slinkyman

You guys are stupid if you wanna trade parker now, he made a major leap towards becoming one of the best PGs in the league this year and will be even better next season, and he's only 24 years old! He had ONE bad game all post season and you act like he's terrible? whatever.

Brent Barry needs to go, old man bones just isn't cutting it anymore.

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yeah he had a GREAT regular season...

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Originally Posted by Bruno

tomorrow.

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Nope. I think there is a window from the end of the finals to 30 June, encompassing the draft.

I think we've lost he offensive board battle in every game during these playoffs.

tony parker keep
tim keep
manu trade for lebron, kobe, or keep
fire pop

all tp does is choke

Doesn't the free agency period start on July 1st?

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Originally Posted by TexasBalla1001

Doesn't the free agency period start on July 1st?

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Jult 15th, but somehow, trades still get done during the draft

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Anyone who wants to trade Parker must not have been a fan in the days of Negele Knight, Vinny Del Negro, Chris Whitney, Avery Johnson, and Terry Porter running our teams.

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Avery did a very nice job for us for several years.
Terry was brought in to make shots and back up Avery. It didn't work out the way we wanted (i.e., a title), but he did a good job.

The others ... yeah, we had garbage for PGs for alot of years.

A major move needs to happen. Spurs should consider Zack Randolph.

Only untouchables = Duncan, Ginobili, Finley, Bowen

Parker has been disappearing so often that the "oh he's so young" arguement will only work for so long.

Well, well, well, . . . Spurs ran out of gas in OT. Congrats to Avery Johnson.

Ian Mahinmi will be in summer league so I guess we'll see what this young fella has to offer. I think this guy will be in training camp because of his youth, athleticism, and surprising defense and rebounding skills. He'll get points on effort plays.

Ian Mahinmi
Birthdate: 11/5/86
NBA Position: PF/C
Ht: 6-11
Wt: 230
Hometown: Rouen, France

Spurs should try to acquire J. R. Smith to get the youth movement into full swing. The change will be refreshing and helpful for this guys career and frame of mind.

J. R. Smith
Position: G
Birthdate: 9/9/1985
Height: 6-6 / 1,98
Weight: 220 lbs. / 99,8 kg.
High School : St. Benedict's Prep (Newark, NJ)

Many believe that Robertas Javtokas will be brought in an effort to strengthen the Spurs front line. Only if he brings toughness, rebounding, and defense with some semblence of an offensive game. Namely a shot from 12 foot on in. Others have said he possesses some athletic skills, I hope that he does; Spurs do not need any more sluggs at the C spot.

Robertas Javtokas
Birthdate: 3/20/1980
Position: Center
Height: 6' 11"
Weight: 205 lbs.
College: Lithuania (Foreign)

The much talked about Luis Scola has been mentioned by other posters as good trade bait for some prooven NBA big or draft pick. I think Spurs will explore their options now that smallball seems to be the rave of the new NBA. Scola has some offensive skills, it is his quickness, size and rebounding that may be cause for apprehension.

Luis Scola
Birthdate: 4/30/80
NBA Position: PF
Ht: 6-9
Wt: 230
Hometown: Buenos Aires, Argentina

Viktor Sanikidze will also play in summer league, hopefull he has a great perimeter game to offer the Spurs in this new NBA era. We can only hope this guy can play defense.

Full Name: Viktor Sanikidze
Born: 04/01/86
Position: SF
Height: 6' 8"
Weight: 196 lbs.
Hometown: Tbilisi, Georgia

Spurs should blow up the team and keep the big 3 (TD, Manu, TP) and perhaps 1 or 2 vets, all others MUST go. Now that's just my take on it; but, . . . stay tuned. :fro

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Originally Posted by exstatic

Nope. I think there is a window from the end of the finals to 30 June, encompassing the draft.

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No. You can trade player after your last regular season or your last playoff game.
We can trade Barry tomorrow but :
- not with a team that still play in the playoff.
- not for a player that can be a free agent this summer.

I have been an anti tony parker person, because parker has been inconsitant.
However, parker was proping up this team the regualr season not duncan. Timmy didn't start playing good till playing kings. And timmy missed some freethrows and shots in this game. Doesn;t mean we trade him because he cost us the game

Um...did you guys watch a different game than me or something?


Tony Parker played his ass off and his double team help on Dirk was one of the reasons we got back in the game.


Let's see...

Tony scored 24 points on 9-18 shooting...he was 6-6 from the FT line...he had 4 reboiunds 5 asssists, 1 steal, 1 block and 1 turnover...


Exactly why are we trading him again? You humoungous collection of dumfucks?

Parker-
All summer long, work like hell on your jumper and the 3.
Work on your court vision game.
You'll be even better next year.

Manu
Heal up real good, get some rest, a short haircut, be angry about this loss and come back with a vengeance. Practice a fast paced offense with Parker thru the summer. You guys need to be the best guard tandem in the league next year.
That is very possible.

Bruce
Keep training cuz you are getting older, don't lose a step, keep practicing your offense.

Tim
Heal up, and come back for an MVP year.
I think Tim should practice a little with Tony and Manu thru the summer.

Finley
Great playoffs. Come back and let's get it next year.
As a matter of fact, spend some time with Tony, Tim and Manu

Rest of team- GET YOUNGER and make sure we still have shooters.
Younger, younger, younger, able to play defense shooters.

And get a damn real Center. Either play Rasho and lite a fire in his ass and get some rebounding good bigmen somehow. I want Twin Tower defense back!

Try and bring a real awesome offensive minded assistant coach in.

I'm no expert, just a couple of thoughts.

We need to be able to come back next year younger but still have veterans and good shooters, be able to run like Pheonix and Dallas and also play halfcourt, while playing Championship Defense WITH OUR BIGS.

And for the whole team- Practice free throws.

And finally FUCK THE REFS and Go Detroit!

My bad, Bruno. The end of the Finals usually IS our last playoff game. :lol

you guys are retarded seriously you are! Tony didn't choke. He didn't disappear like 03 either, he played the entire game almost and was key to our success. Now stop hijacking this thread with this BS, this is about how quickly will be able to make trades, mainly brent barry.

I could give a flying flip about next year. Screw next year.

Trading Parker would be an option if a team offered a player who can deliver when they need them too.

Say, for example, if by some reason New Jersey offers Vince Carter for Parker and someone else? You take it.

Parker is not untouchable. The only TRUE untouchable is Duncan, but you need to keep him, Bowen, Finley, and Ginobili.

I truly think they need to go after Zack Randolph, he's an all-star level player and is an actual big man who isn't completely terrible.

Spurs lack of depth upfront is why they lost this year. Diop outplayed all of the Spurs other centers, pathetic.

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Originally Posted by AMOS7

A major move needs to happen. Spurs should consider Zack Randolph.

Only untouchables = Duncan, Ginobili, Finley, Bowen

Parker has been disappearing so often that the "oh he's so young" arguement will only work for so long.

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I've always liked Randolph. Is he a FA this summer? I would love to have him in the middle with Timmy.

Brent didn't exactly up his trade status tonight with his performance...


Sorry Gerry...I had Barry's back all year last year...but he was ass in this series...I think he averaged about 4 TO's per game....

With the Tim, Manu, Tony core we will be in contention for a Title in 07'. So we're not too worried about blowing it up.

Manu - get healthy, train over summer, you did a lot of good for us this series and kept us in
Tim - get healthy, relax, you gave the effort we needed. Play like an MVP next season and put the Steve Nash reign to shame.

Tony - get your Jumper up to SCRATCH, Watch How Steve NASH PLays and ALternates between knowing when TO SCORE, and WHEN TO PASS, add those dimensions guy...Too many unreliable jumpers put us in holes. Other than, that relax, get healthy.

Finley - Stay classy. Stay on and play for this team.

Horry - don't get too old, you still have one more Killer 3 to cap off your career

Barry --trade him for younger legs, he used up our last piece of luck with that barry bouncer--we need a shooter, but your head isn't in this so get outta here. You make us weaker.

Bowen --keep, we need him to train an apprentice for the long run

Nazr--- replace his ass with someone RELIABLE

Sign Scola as a helping BIG---I know others aren't sure and want him to be traded for someone in the league, but I believe this guy can really come through for us. If there's anything I'd not doubt, is seeing more Manus on the Team.

Sign/Trade for More shooters/athletic youths like J.R. Smith.

Rasho - Whatever...he's a backup center. That is all.

I still would like to look at Pryzbilla from Portland. Great rebounder and shot blocker.
If he could learn defensive rotation I think he would be a helluva pick-up.
Unless he signed an extension that I don't know about.

Tony's probably going to spend the next couple of days iced down. His best days are still ahead, so relax.

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Um...did you guys watch a different game than me or something?


Tony Parker played his ass off and his double team help on Dirk was one of the reasons we got back in the game.


Let's see...

Tony scored 24 points on 9-18 shooting...he was 6-6 from the FT line...he had 4 reboiunds 5 asssists, 1 steal, 1 block and 1 turnover...


Exactly why are we trading him again? You humoungous collection of dumfucks?

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Whoa now, facts will clusterfuck the brains of the geniuses now.

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Originally Posted by AMOS7

Trading Parker would be an option if a team offered a player who can deliver when they need them too.

Say, for example, if by some reason New Jersey offers Vince Carter for Parker and someone else? You take it.

Parker is not untouchable.

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Unless Sequ suddenly is our new coach, we wouldn't do it.

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Originally Posted by AMOS7

Trading Parker would be an option if a team offered a player who can deliver when they need them too.

Say, for example, if by some reason New Jersey offers Vince Carter for Parker and someone else? You take it.

Parker is not untouchable. The only TRUE untouchable is Duncan, but you need to keep him, Bowen, Finley, and Ginobili.

I truly think they need to go after Zack Randolph, he's an all-star level player and is an actual big man who isn't completely terrible.

Spurs lack of depth upfront is why they lost this year. Diop outplayed all of the Spurs other centers, pathetic.

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I say we trade Sean Marks and Fabricio to get 2 first round picks and take Adam Morrison and JJ Redick ;) lol


...hell i dunno what needs to be done...

Half man, Half a season? WTF? You think parker shoots to much wait till carter jacks up 40 shots in a game, please. We have a solid core we just need to patch some holes and bring in some young talent.

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who can deliver when they need them too.

Say, for example, if by some reason New Jersey offers Vince Carter for Parker and someone else? You take it.

Parker is not untouchable.

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Yeah Vince Carter was money in that game 5 vs Miami....

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I truly think they need to go after Zack Randolph, he's an all-star level player and is an actual big man who isn't completely terrible.

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When exactly did Zach Randolph reach all star level?

:lol


you need to take a break moron.


26 points, 6 assists, 4 rebounds, 1 turnover.


Yeah, that sucks.

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Oh please, I've been reading this forum since 04. Spurs need a big change because their team is too old now to be the dominant force in the west now. They need some players who aren't just young with "nothing but upside", but a player who is already proven to win to go alongside Duncan to compete for a title.

Once Duncan is gone out of his best days (about 3 years from now or so), Spurs will not compete for a title.

No way to trade TP unless you get Billups but it not possible. He is good but still not be counted on in clutch shoot. That's his weakness and let's work on that.

Barry need to be traded for cap room and young player. No doubt.

Naza walk and will not come back.

Is there an enough cap room released after these moves to sign a decent PF or a decent SF?

People should calm down.
We lost against a 60 win team in 7 games. We can't win every year.
Parker, Duncan and manu have been very good for the playoff : we need to trade them.
If you look closely : the main reason why we lost is the lack of a good rebounding SF or the lack of a big who can defend on Dirk/Howard.

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So trade your 24 year old PG!!!

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moron.

Trade Parker? Is the the thread where the mentally impaired are institutionalized?

One extremely encouraging thing about end of season and playoffs is that Parker seems to have solved his FT problems. That means he should be able to solve his outside shooting problems.

You guys can call me names, tell me stats all day. But tell me this, would you rather have Jason Kidd on the floor with Duncan and Ginobili in the closing moments of a closure game, or Tony Parker?

CONSISTANCY is what the Spurs lack often. That is why they have not been able to repeat. That starts at Parker's role. Sure his statsheet is nice, Duncan had 41 points, but did they win? No.

Duncan needs a point guard to feed him the ball in the post. I love Parker, he's great, but Parker is not going to be a great player to build this team on because right now, you try to win the title NOW. Duncan will decline as the years go on and you need a proven all-star beside him, or a player with all-star levels. Or just another great big man would be nice.

Guys seriously, stop this mocking me shit, I like this community and you guys are too close to a player, for the love of god stop calling me a moron and think outside the box for a minute.

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exactly right


The needs this summer are in this order

athletic big man

athletic long 3

backup point


Javtokas, Scola, fill the big need.

Hopefully a trade can be pulled off for the 3

and hopefully, uh, they can pull a back up point out of their ass.

and spurs fans this is what happens when you lose players like devin brown

For Whotttttttt to say that Barry played like ass, he played like ass.

However,

Horry played even WORSE imo. Parker? He played. Our guys still had a chance to win this, and we just werne't the better team.

Now if we are talking upgrades, I think it is extremely CRYSTAL CLEAR that we have to get younger and athletic. Theres no other option. NVE is as good as gone, Barry and Horry may be going too.

We need young athletic players. Young speedy players would have made our small ball lineup kick ass. Surround Duncan with quick ass long armed guards? We're in the WCF's.
The teams have changed so much already and geared towards beating us that we have to change our formula.

CIA pop lowered NAzr's value, but Nazr is all but worthless at this poitn. I would like to see a complete retooling if it were possible, get rid of rasho, nazr, barry, nve, horry, but we may just end up stuck with patching in shitty contracts to save money again.

All I can think of is:

Wow, what a horrible waste of a year of TD's prime.

I'm not familiar with him, I'll do some quick research and post later. But if he is weak on defense or slow learning rotations, I don't think Spurs will even entertain the idea. Nazr f'ed it up for those types in San Antonio.

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One extremely encouraging thing about end of season and playoffs is that Parker seems to have solved his FT problems. That means he should be able to solve his outside shooting problems.

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And the big jumpers he made at the end and in OT.


Tony Parker will pull a HARDCORE right turn next year, and improve EVEN MORE!

These are the FA's at the PF, SF, and C positions:

SMALL FORWARDS
Lee Nailon, Glenn Robinson, George Lynch, Rodney Rogers, Kedrick Brown, Eddie Robinson, Chris Crawford, Ndudi Ebi, Roger Powell Jr., Sean Lampley, Josh Davis, Kaniel Dickens, Tang Hamilton, Dan Langhi, Darvin Ham, Billy Thomas, Chris Porter, Tremaine Fowlkes, Sharrod Ford, Lawrence Funderburke, Sean Banks, Darius Rice, Chris Jefferies

POWER FORWARDS
Robert Traylor, Samaki Walker, Christian Laettner, Sam Clancy, Tom Gugliotta, Jerome Moiso, Clarence Weatherspoon, Cherokee Parks, Ryan Humphrey, Tony Massenburg, Mark Pope, Kimani Ffriend, Lucas Tischer

CENTERS
Jahidi White, Ben Handlogten, Andrew DeClercq, Oliver Miller, Wang Zhizhi, Curtis Borchardt, Amal McCaskill, Roy Tarpley, Vladimir Stepania, Nate Huffman, Jayson Williams, Jared Reiner, Kyle Davis, Olden Polynice, Peter Cornell, Keith Closs, Mamadou N'Diaye, Elden Campbell



EDIT: Nevermind, these are players who didn't play this year.

:td Pryzbilla
:tu Robertas Javtokas

Parker is a no brainer, the kid will get better. But Still, this is such a waste of TD. 41 points and we get owned in OT. We need young atheletic legs dammit. Thats all we fucking need. Fuck our centers. Fuck our old wings (except Finley, he stays, and bowen--NATURALLY)

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and spurs fans this is what happens when you lose players like devin brown

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yeah devin would have shut down Dirk and grabbed 10 boards a game, maybe if he could show up to practice on time he'd still be a spur.

TD really needs to work on his shot. If he could face up and shoot that 15 footer like he used to his job will be so much easier. It should help keep him healthy next season. Defenders are conceeding that shot and he should be able to make it a good % of the time.

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CIA pop lowered NAzr's value, but Nazr is all but worthless at this poitn. I would like to see a complete retooling if it were possible, get rid of rasho, nazr, barry, nve, horry, but we may just end up stuck with patching in shitty contracts to save money again

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Not saving money,

its not having cap room.


all the players listed,

Horry isn't going anywhere, might as well forget that, and I would'nt give up on him either.

VE is retiring, and justifibly so, the guy has nothing left, his arm and knees are shot.

Mohammed? You saw his last game in game 2. Hes gone to either Seattle, Chicago, or somewhere else.


Rasho, prob isnt going anywhere, too big a contract not good enough of a player.

Beno? Yeah, hes tradable, but the contract isnt big enough to get a good one back.

The fact is, this team needs to get more athletic.

Duncan is no longer great enough to win soley on his own. You guys can love Tony Parker all you want, and I'm a fan of his too, but if you can increase their chances to win now, then you take that chance when you can. Remember when so many of you were so hellbent on keeping Brown over Finley? What happened there?

If you can aquire an all-star, you take it. Parker is a great player, but if you can find a player that while might be older, you get someone who can help you win now, and have them be your main core with athletic young guys off the bench or at other positions in the rotation, like JR Smith, and whoever else they can pick up.

Besides, I said Randolph was all-star LEVEL, meaning he has talent to bring it and put up numbers to get there. Pair him with Duncan and you have a monster low post set that can hit outside shots.

Oh no, looks like Joel Pryzbilla is just a repackaged Rasho. Hell no! I like Mahinmi and Javtokas better, just on potential alone.

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and spurs fans this is what happens when you lose players like devin brown

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dude pass that crackpipe away.

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Originally Posted by AMOS7

The fact is, this team needs to get more athletic.

Duncan is no longer great enough to win soley on his own. You guys can love Tony Parker all you want, and I'm a fan of his too, but if you can increase their chances to win now, then you take that chance when you can. Remember when so many of you were so hellbent on keeping Brown over Finley? What happened there?

If you can aquire an all-star, you take it. Parker is a great player, but if you can find a player that while might be older, you get someone who can help you win now, and have them be your main core with athletic young guys off the bench or at other positions in the rotation, like JR Smith, and whoever else they can pick up.

Besides, I said Randolph was all-star LEVEL, meaning he has talent to bring it and put up numbers to get there. Pair him with Duncan and you have a monster low post set that can hit outside shots.

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Duncan has never been good enough to win it on his own...noone ever has.

We just need young legs willing to learn.

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Besides, I said Randolph was all-star LEVEL, meaning he has talent to bring it and put up numbers to get there. Pair him with Duncan and you have a monster low post trio that can hit outside shots

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Hes a peanut head who plays worse defense than Nazr Mohammed.

Please.

The key is that the team needs to get a little bigger at the 3 and a little more mobile at the 4 behind Timmy. They were after the right guy last summer in Marshall.

TNT had a graphic that said Finley would be a free agent. Does he have an option???