Official Early Offseason Thread(we only need 1 right now peeps)

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I truly think they need to go after Zack Randolph, he's an all-star level player and is an actual big man who isn't completely terrible.

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When exactly did Zach Randolph reach all star level?

:lol


you need to take a break moron.


26 points, 6 assists, 4 rebounds, 1 turnover.


Yeah, that sucks.

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Originally Posted by whottt

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Oh please, I've been reading this forum since 04. Spurs need a big change because their team is too old now to be the dominant force in the west now. They need some players who aren't just young with "nothing but upside", but a player who is already proven to win to go alongside Duncan to compete for a title.

Once Duncan is gone out of his best days (about 3 years from now or so), Spurs will not compete for a title.

No way to trade TP unless you get Billups but it not possible. He is good but still not be counted on in clutch shoot. That's his weakness and let's work on that.

Barry need to be traded for cap room and young player. No doubt.

Naza walk and will not come back.

Is there an enough cap room released after these moves to sign a decent PF or a decent SF?

People should calm down.
We lost against a 60 win team in 7 games. We can't win every year.
Parker, Duncan and manu have been very good for the playoff : we need to trade them.
If you look closely : the main reason why we lost is the lack of a good rebounding SF or the lack of a big who can defend on Dirk/Howard.

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Spurs need a big change because their team is too old now to be the dominant

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So trade your 24 year old PG!!!

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moron.

Trade Parker? Is the the thread where the mentally impaired are institutionalized?

One extremely encouraging thing about end of season and playoffs is that Parker seems to have solved his FT problems. That means he should be able to solve his outside shooting problems.

You guys can call me names, tell me stats all day. But tell me this, would you rather have Jason Kidd on the floor with Duncan and Ginobili in the closing moments of a closure game, or Tony Parker?

CONSISTANCY is what the Spurs lack often. That is why they have not been able to repeat. That starts at Parker's role. Sure his statsheet is nice, Duncan had 41 points, but did they win? No.

Duncan needs a point guard to feed him the ball in the post. I love Parker, he's great, but Parker is not going to be a great player to build this team on because right now, you try to win the title NOW. Duncan will decline as the years go on and you need a proven all-star beside him, or a player with all-star levels. Or just another great big man would be nice.

Guys seriously, stop this mocking me shit, I like this community and you guys are too close to a player, for the love of god stop calling me a moron and think outside the box for a minute.

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If you look closely : the main reason why we lost is the lack of a good rebounding SF or the lack of a big who can defend on Dirk/Howard.

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exactly right


The needs this summer are in this order

athletic big man

athletic long 3

backup point


Javtokas, Scola, fill the big need.

Hopefully a trade can be pulled off for the 3

and hopefully, uh, they can pull a back up point out of their ass.

and spurs fans this is what happens when you lose players like devin brown

For Whotttttttt to say that Barry played like ass, he played like ass.

However,

Horry played even WORSE imo. Parker? He played. Our guys still had a chance to win this, and we just werne't the better team.

Now if we are talking upgrades, I think it is extremely CRYSTAL CLEAR that we have to get younger and athletic. Theres no other option. NVE is as good as gone, Barry and Horry may be going too.

We need young athletic players. Young speedy players would have made our small ball lineup kick ass. Surround Duncan with quick ass long armed guards? We're in the WCF's.
The teams have changed so much already and geared towards beating us that we have to change our formula.

CIA pop lowered NAzr's value, but Nazr is all but worthless at this poitn. I would like to see a complete retooling if it were possible, get rid of rasho, nazr, barry, nve, horry, but we may just end up stuck with patching in shitty contracts to save money again.

All I can think of is:

Wow, what a horrible waste of a year of TD's prime.

I'm not familiar with him, I'll do some quick research and post later. But if he is weak on defense or slow learning rotations, I don't think Spurs will even entertain the idea. Nazr f'ed it up for those types in San Antonio.

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One extremely encouraging thing about end of season and playoffs is that Parker seems to have solved his FT problems. That means he should be able to solve his outside shooting problems.

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And the big jumpers he made at the end and in OT.


Tony Parker will pull a HARDCORE right turn next year, and improve EVEN MORE!

These are the FA's at the PF, SF, and C positions:

SMALL FORWARDS
Lee Nailon, Glenn Robinson, George Lynch, Rodney Rogers, Kedrick Brown, Eddie Robinson, Chris Crawford, Ndudi Ebi, Roger Powell Jr., Sean Lampley, Josh Davis, Kaniel Dickens, Tang Hamilton, Dan Langhi, Darvin Ham, Billy Thomas, Chris Porter, Tremaine Fowlkes, Sharrod Ford, Lawrence Funderburke, Sean Banks, Darius Rice, Chris Jefferies

POWER FORWARDS
Robert Traylor, Samaki Walker, Christian Laettner, Sam Clancy, Tom Gugliotta, Jerome Moiso, Clarence Weatherspoon, Cherokee Parks, Ryan Humphrey, Tony Massenburg, Mark Pope, Kimani Ffriend, Lucas Tischer

CENTERS
Jahidi White, Ben Handlogten, Andrew DeClercq, Oliver Miller, Wang Zhizhi, Curtis Borchardt, Amal McCaskill, Roy Tarpley, Vladimir Stepania, Nate Huffman, Jayson Williams, Jared Reiner, Kyle Davis, Olden Polynice, Peter Cornell, Keith Closs, Mamadou N'Diaye, Elden Campbell



EDIT: Nevermind, these are players who didn't play this year.

:td Pryzbilla
:tu Robertas Javtokas

Parker is a no brainer, the kid will get better. But Still, this is such a waste of TD. 41 points and we get owned in OT. We need young atheletic legs dammit. Thats all we fucking need. Fuck our centers. Fuck our old wings (except Finley, he stays, and bowen--NATURALLY)

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Originally Posted by clubalien

and spurs fans this is what happens when you lose players like devin brown

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yeah devin would have shut down Dirk and grabbed 10 boards a game, maybe if he could show up to practice on time he'd still be a spur.

TD really needs to work on his shot. If he could face up and shoot that 15 footer like he used to his job will be so much easier. It should help keep him healthy next season. Defenders are conceeding that shot and he should be able to make it a good % of the time.

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CIA pop lowered NAzr's value, but Nazr is all but worthless at this poitn. I would like to see a complete retooling if it were possible, get rid of rasho, nazr, barry, nve, horry, but we may just end up stuck with patching in shitty contracts to save money again

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Not saving money,

its not having cap room.


all the players listed,

Horry isn't going anywhere, might as well forget that, and I would'nt give up on him either.

VE is retiring, and justifibly so, the guy has nothing left, his arm and knees are shot.

Mohammed? You saw his last game in game 2. Hes gone to either Seattle, Chicago, or somewhere else.


Rasho, prob isnt going anywhere, too big a contract not good enough of a player.

Beno? Yeah, hes tradable, but the contract isnt big enough to get a good one back.

The fact is, this team needs to get more athletic.

Duncan is no longer great enough to win soley on his own. You guys can love Tony Parker all you want, and I'm a fan of his too, but if you can increase their chances to win now, then you take that chance when you can. Remember when so many of you were so hellbent on keeping Brown over Finley? What happened there?

If you can aquire an all-star, you take it. Parker is a great player, but if you can find a player that while might be older, you get someone who can help you win now, and have them be your main core with athletic young guys off the bench or at other positions in the rotation, like JR Smith, and whoever else they can pick up.

Besides, I said Randolph was all-star LEVEL, meaning he has talent to bring it and put up numbers to get there. Pair him with Duncan and you have a monster low post set that can hit outside shots.

Oh no, looks like Joel Pryzbilla is just a repackaged Rasho. Hell no! I like Mahinmi and Javtokas better, just on potential alone.

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and spurs fans this is what happens when you lose players like devin brown

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dude pass that crackpipe away.

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Originally Posted by AMOS7

The fact is, this team needs to get more athletic.

Duncan is no longer great enough to win soley on his own. You guys can love Tony Parker all you want, and I'm a fan of his too, but if you can increase their chances to win now, then you take that chance when you can. Remember when so many of you were so hellbent on keeping Brown over Finley? What happened there?

If you can aquire an all-star, you take it. Parker is a great player, but if you can find a player that while might be older, you get someone who can help you win now, and have them be your main core with athletic young guys off the bench or at other positions in the rotation, like JR Smith, and whoever else they can pick up.

Besides, I said Randolph was all-star LEVEL, meaning he has talent to bring it and put up numbers to get there. Pair him with Duncan and you have a monster low post set that can hit outside shots.

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Duncan has never been good enough to win it on his own...noone ever has.

We just need young legs willing to learn.

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Besides, I said Randolph was all-star LEVEL, meaning he has talent to bring it and put up numbers to get there. Pair him with Duncan and you have a monster low post trio that can hit outside shots

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Hes a peanut head who plays worse defense than Nazr Mohammed.

Please.

The key is that the team needs to get a little bigger at the 3 and a little more mobile at the 4 behind Timmy. They were after the right guy last summer in Marshall.

TNT had a graphic that said Finley would be a free agent. Does he have an option???