If the Spurs want to get back to the top, they can't afford to wait too long.Quote:
patience.......
We have a seven footer in France that will be able to chase Dirk around when he comes here.
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If the Spurs want to get back to the top, they can't afford to wait too long.Quote:
patience.......
We have a seven footer in France that will be able to chase Dirk around when he comes here.
typical aggieQuote:
We lost this series because Pop
You're right -- if we could only have found an answer to Dampier and Diop, this series would have been completely different. :rolleyesQuote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
If you put Rasho/Nazr on them, that means you have Tim on Dirk, right? I guess Timmy fouling out is no big deal as long as we can get Rasho out there.
Or do you have Timmy chasing some little guy around the perimeter, miles away from the paint?
You're brain (if you have one) is firmly lodged up your ass. If the Spurs can't beat Dallas while playing with Nazr/Rasho, please explain this FACT:Quote:
Originally Posted by strangeweather
In the two regular season games in which San Antonio beat Dallas, Rasho/Nazr combined for 40+ minutes. Please explain to me how this was possible?
In March, Adrian Griffin was still starting for them, and you could sub Popovich in and guard him just fine. Defending Griffin is a little different from defending Devin Harris.Quote:
Originally Posted by peskypesky
Funny, take away what those two guys contributed in game 7 and the Spurs win by double figures.Quote:
You're right -- if we could only have found an answer to Dampier and Diop, this series would have been completely different.
Did you even watch the games, or are you just too stupid to understand that we got killed on the glass and in points in the paint?
Still waiting for your candy ass to talk hoops, any time you want to get down to x's and o's and personnel decisions and talk shop, you're more than welcome.Quote:
typical aggie
Until then, STFU. Saying Rasho and Nazr were horrible when they played a combined 27 minutes in 7 games in this series shows how fucking stupid you are.
Actually, we owned their asses in points in the paint in at least some of the games -- Game 7, for example. But yeah, we were getting beat on the glass all series. But unless you play 6 on 5, you can't put in a rebounder without having him guard someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
And again, we had Timmy on Diop and Damp -- just who is it that you think provides a more imposing defensive presence that could have shut these guys down? And who do you have Duncan guarding?
Even when we won the game, we lost offensive rebounding 12-4. :lol i hated those offensive rebounds. It's the small ball thing, there is no doubt about it.
Playing SPURS basketball would mean that we lose something and gain something. Would we lose more or gain more? Hmmmmm.... hmmmmmm.... 63 ........ hmmmmmmmmmmmmm .... 63 ........ really hard to tell. :elephantQuote:
Originally Posted by strangeweather
Dude, there were times in this series where Avery had Dirk, Dampier, AND Diop on the court together.
We never countered with anything other than Tim and Horry, and got bitch slapped on the boards. Fucking weak.
Dallas was getting whatever they wanted on offense all series long anyway, who gives a fuck if we end up with one of our guys on a small or Dirk.
Last year we put Nazr on Amare, let the guy score 40 a game (just took caution not to give him three point plays), and smoked Phoenix.
Put Nazr or Rasho on Dirk, tell them not to give up the three pointer, and move their feet the best they could while beating the shit out of him with elbows, hips, etc. whenever he came into the lane.
Pop basically pussed out and catered to Avery's matchups all series. The last time that happened was back when he catered to LA, funny how that worked out all the same.
And howabout Robert Horry? When Phil ran him as a starter in 2003, he played horribly. Three years older this year, he looked worse. Why is that surprising?
Nazr and Rasho combined for 27 minutes in the series. How the fuck can anyone say what they would have done? Horry was giving us nothing and we were getting killed in the paint and on the glass.
Sooner or later, you put in a damn big and see what he can do.
Pop coached himself straight out of this series by scrapping his system, and then our defense and rebounding went to shit because we were asking four guards to try and play PF on the glass and in the paint.
Lame.
If you can't find fault in Pop's game plan for this loss then you are a fucking idiot.
Dallas was 87.3% from the field for the first 17-18 minutes in a Game 7 on homegotdamn court.
Dallas outrebounded SA, they outhustled, they scored at will.
The game plan was fucking wrong from the beginning of this series and post loss, the game plan is still fucking wrong.
Manu Ginobili has no fucking brains. I am not an NBA coach, but I fucking know that you don't foul on a layup when you are up by 3 with fucking seconds left in a Game 7.
This whole fucking postseason smells like Popovich dogshit. You can jack off to the 3 championships or you can be proactive and boo this dipshit out of town.
Pop is fucking stupid.
So true. The first part shows Pop's incompetence with ingame adjustments. The part where you talk about elbows is actually a good one, too. I've seen some great stuff when Dirk played for Germany. The opposing teams didn't have a guy to cover him, but instead they put a banger or two on him. He was just supposed to get him nervous&tired. And sometimes it really worked well. He can get lost and he can't hit a damn thing. He just runs outside 3-point area and forces shots. But you need to reach that level, you need to work on "kill Dirk" tactics. We didn't stop him did we? Then put a banger on him. He fouls out? Put another one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
Actually, in the last 3 games we were making a ton of critical stops down the stretch. If the Mavs had had an extra open guy that we couldn't guard, we never make it out of Game 5, even if we do get some extra rebounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
So you want Pop to take Rasho and tell him to play Dirk in tight man-to-man so there are no open outside shots, and then to stay out ahead of him when he penetrates, bumping him all the while? If Rasho were a 7-foot Bruce Bowen, that would be a terrific idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
[QUOTE=Aggie Hoopsfan]Pop basically pussed out and catered to Avery's matchups all series. The last time that happened was back when he catered to LA, funny how that worked out all the same.
Horry didn't give us much. We used him less and less as the series went on, which is why Finley was starting. But neither Rasho nor Nazr was much of a weapon this year. Rasho isn't that great a rebounder or defender. Nazr has better potential, but his mistakes were excruciating all season long -- he's not a smart player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
Don't get me wrong -- if we had a good center, I would be 100% in favor of putting him in and ramming him down the Mavs' throats. But we had Rasho and Nazr instead.
Or you stick with the game plan, try to tweak it and see if your guys can come through. Despite our expansive shopping list of needs for this offseason, they almost did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
It couldn't be worse than it already was. Check out Dirk's stats, will you? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by strangeweather
Pop's "game plan" is why we're talking about the off-season today. Scoreboard.Quote:
Or you stick with the game plan, try to tweak it and see if your guys can come through. Despite our expansive shopping list of needs for this offseason, they almost did.
:lmao
WORTHLESS?????? 63 WINS ?????? :depressedQuote:
Originally Posted by Melmart1
"Pop basically pussed out and catered to Avery's matchups all series. The last time that happened was back when he catered to LA, funny how that worked out all the same."
Could it be......The Teacher STEPPING aside for his STUDENT?
in either case, life goes on and the Spurs are OLD...... have to face this.... Time to start dumping the FAT!!!!!!!!!
I question a lot of what Pop did in this series. He seemed like he was completely out-coached, the guy was just clueless. His strategy was a total contradiction to what he's all about.
Going small, not playing D, especially transition D...I was so sick of that series, I'm actually glad it's over. I couldn't take NBA basketball anymore, and those lame ass refs didn't help the cause either.
Well if it couldn't get any worse, we should have just had Dirk's defender leave him to double someone else. :rolleyesQuote:
Originally Posted by BgT
Outcoached big time.
The guys we played didn't win, so by definition the guys who didn't play are better? By that logic, we should have started Beno, Kiwi, and Oberto side by side with Rasho and Nazr.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
With a lineup that big, we could dominate.
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Originally Posted by strangeweather
I'm sorry you don't understand this, it's about drastically changing the lineup that won a franchise record number of games in THE MIDDLE OF THE PLAYOFFS
Honestly, we were lucky we didnt lose in 5, if Dirk hadnt fucked up that put-back (OF COURSE HE GOT THE REBOUND)