just face it...POP F*CKED IT UP
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just face it...POP F*CKED IT UP
That doesn't help us. He should be the one facing it. He saw nothing wrong in this series, so we are fucked now. Pop already started to put together a small ball team. No centres and only one PF, TD. That should work. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by spurs_in_7
Your idiot went away from what made him the winningest coach in basketball and tried to play small ball.Quote:
After all, any idiot can make a team the winningest in basketball for a decade, but it takes a supergenius to refuse to make any adjustments in the playoffs.
Your idiot is fishing, golfing, or tasteing wine, but he's done coaching for 3 months.
That's the bottom line.
You'd think he would have learned from what happened when he tried to play at Phoenix's tempo last year. Shame on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
Well, I hear Larry Brown is available. He never changes his approach.
you guys might have a point if nazr was actually capable of being productive this year/postseason. he had his chances and sucked it up, bad. he cannot protect the paint. i think rasho may have been decent in spots, but he didn't get the time. the nazr we saw last year in the playoffs is long gone. pop is here until duncan retires, sit back and get used to it. we simply didn't have anyone who could guard dirk effectively for long stretches besides bruce, and we had to shuttle him around to try and cool down whoever else caught fire.
I think the problem was that Josh Howard had fantastic performances in the 1st 3 games. Rasho and Nazr could not guard a very athletic, quick and long player like him. It wasn't until Pop took Bowen off of Dirk and on put him on Josh Howard, that he started to struggle. Had Pop kept the Bigs in there, Josh would have had a career series. U figure, Dirk's going to get his points regardless, but u can't let J.Ho score 26pts a game. The Spurs just didn't have the athletes to matchup with Dallas this year, period. Let's not forget, this series may not have been as close as it appeared had Terry played in game 6. I truly believe that Dallas would have won in 6. SA had an opportunity to take advantage of that and couldn't. However, the Spurs are still a top 3 team. They just need to get younger and more athletic in the offseason and they'll be right back in it next year. Don't hang ur head too low. U still have the best big man to ever play the game and despite what critics say about his age and foot, he is by no means fading. In fact, I thought Duncan had his best performance in a series ever against Dallas.Quote:
Originally Posted by ambchang
this series could have also easily been spurs in 6 with 3 different bounces, or mavs in 4, spurs in 5, and so on and so forth. the series ended up every bit as close as it appeared. neither team was clearly superior to the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigD1
You are one dumb son of a bitch.Quote:
You'd think he would have learned from what happened when he tried to play at Phoenix's tempo last year. Shame on him.
Starting lineup last year vs. Phoenix:
Parker
Ginobili
Bowen
Duncan
Mohammed
Starting lineup vs. the Mavs:
Parker
Ginobili
Bowen
Duncan
Horry or Finley
Seeings you're a fucking idiot:
The Spurs played small ball with two seven footers last year and won. The Spurs played small ball with Tim Duncan and four guards this year and lost
Pop's a great coach, but he got worked in this series. Quit being so fucking dense.
Pop went with Small ball cause in the 2nd game he got torched like a Roman candle in a hot ashes.......
Trust me, he saw the film and realized pretty quickly that Nazr, Duncan, nor Rasho could handle Dirk or Howard on the defensive end. The thing that he didn't count on in the end was that none of his guys could handle Dirk on the defensive end.
You have to realize what Dallas was doing in game 2 to see what Pop had to do. Dallas primarily runs 2 plays for most of the game, the high pick, or a Dirk Iso at the top of the key. That's all they pretty much run I'd say %80 of the time. Pop knew that's what they were going to do by game 2, but the way they ran with Harris vs Griffin wasn't stoppable with Rasho in the game. Dirk would pick for Terry or Harris Nazr switched, now you have Parker on Dirk and Bowen on Terry or Harris doesn't sound bad yet does it. Now in the switch the guard has time to get in the key just slightly sucking in the Defense and now Terry or Harris can go to the wing to Howard or Stackhouse who is either gaurded by Nazr, Duncan, or Rasho, but if for some reason that mismatch isn't available he just dumps it back to Dirk and Dirk drains the jumper from the top of the key or if the Spurs bring a double he kicks to a guard who is being guarded now by a big. That guard can now shoot over the big or drive to the hole now guarded by a bunch of guards....
Pop had no choice really, Dirk is the ultimate defensive killer, he's simply like no other player to ever play the game. He's an above average shooting guard that happens to be 7' tall and can rebound as well as just about anyone in the league. Dirk's offensive skill set is so amazing but dare I say even if he were 6'5" he'd still be a starting guard in the NBA.
BTW, the Mavs never really played "small ball", our lineup primarily was 2 7 footers, 2 guards, and a lengthy small forward.
2 point guards = small ball. avery went small in game 2.
It was that 1st quarter.. they scored 37 points...
There was a Basketball Clinic and the Spurs where the patients...
Nah 4 guards and a center is small ball. Lots of teams play 2 small guards in their back court and it's considered conventional, Knicks, Detroit isn't far off with Rip only weighing 100lbs, Houston, Toronto.Quote:
Originally Posted by leemajors
Actually I was thinking about putting Rasho on Harris. :rolleyesQuote:
Originally Posted by BigD1
Dirk deserved the season MVP and is a offensive monster this year, especially when the Spurs let him drive left, which I still can't understand, but that's another story. However, Bruce didn't make Dirk pay on the other end. Against Phoenix, Dirk will probaly have to primarily guard Marion (21.9ppg) and I think we'll see just how deserving Dirk is of the playoff MVP award.Quote:
Pop had no choice really, Dirk is the ultimate defensive killer, he's simply like no other player to ever play the game. He's an above average shooting guard that happens to be 7' tall and can rebound as well as just about anyone in the league. Dirk's offensive skill set is so amazing but dare I say even if he were 6'5" he'd still be a starting guard in the NBA.
Nah this year Dirk won't have to guard Marion this year, I think he'll be on Tim Thomas and Damp will be on Diaw, Howard on Marion, and the guards will take whomevers left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nbadan
I didn't even have to check who wrote the post you've quoted, I knew it was Mavs fan. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Nbadan
Stick to the topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by SequSpur
All you people (Sequ included) were bashing Rasho and Nazr all season, how they sucked, were too slow, wouldn't dunk, had bad hands, butterfingers, etc. Now all the sudden they would have been our playoff saviors? Classic!
I agree with the whole "dance with you brung ya" theory but if they change the music...you have to adjust. The Spurs didn't lose this series because of the absence of Rasho and Nazr.
Sorry. When you said that we should stick with what won for us in the regular season, I didn't realize that you think it's okay to throw tempo and playing style out the window as long as we do it with exactly the same lineup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
I suppose that Pop should also have known that trying to slow Dallas down was utterly pointless because tempo isn't very important in basketball, unlike lineups, which should never, ever be changed for matchups.
I am still pissed at Pop
forgive, sounds good
forget, i’m not sure i could
they say time heals everything
but i’m still waiting
i’m through with doubt
there’s nothing left for me to figure out
i’ve paid a price
and i’ll keep paying
i’m not ready to make nice
i’m not ready to back down
i’m still mad as hell and
i don’t have time to go round and round and round
it’s too late to make it right
i probably wouldn’t if i could
‘cause i’m mad as hell
can’t bring myself to do what it is you think i should
Don't bother bringing up inconvenient facts to the likes of them. You'll only confuse them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melmart1
Different thread, applicable here. Not that it will make any difference...but hey, one can hope...
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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
The second time I'm asking the same question.
If Pop WAS forced to play small ball, why didn't he use either Nazr or Rasho when Tim was on the bench? Do you really believe that Horry was the best option to play center in those (rare) minutes?
Yes...because a lot of the time Dirk was on the floor then. That was the problem. If they had gone with Dampier and 4 smalls, then fine...but they didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlovenianGuy
Can we end this debate once and for all?
Nazr and Rasho had NO ONE to guard! Maybe, MAYBE, we do a little better on rebounding, but we lose offense, AND we put Tim in foul trouble early.
GET OVER IT ALREADY!
In case you haven't noticed it, there's a trend in the NBA, where teams are going with smaller, more athletic players. AND, it appears to be working. We need a long, athletic player (and Elton Brand type) to put next to Tim.
TO REPEAT: Rasho and Nazr wouldn't have done jack shit for us.
Thank you.