Here's The 2006-2007 Free Agents List

So now you dumbasses who should say we should sign Lebron can really see who we can get(probasketball.about.com):
The Supposed Top 25:
1.Ben Wallace, PF/C, Detroit
2.Jason Terry, PG, Dallas
3.Peja Stojakovic, SF, Indiana (Player option)
4.Al Harrington, PF, Atlanta
5.Mike James, Toronto (Player option)
6.Chris Wilcox, PF, Seattle (Restricted)
7.Nene, PF/C, Denver (Restricted)
8.Drew Gooden, PF, Cleveland (Restricted)
9.Bonzi Wells, SG/SF, Sacramento
10.Matt Harpring, SG/SF, Utah
11.Joel Przybilla, C, Portland
12.Ronald Murray, Cleveland
13.Speedy Claxton, PG, New Orleans
14.Vladimir Radmanovic, SF/PF, LA Clippers
15.Jared Jeffries, Washington (Restricted)
16.James Posey, SG/SF, Miami (Player option)
17.Nazr Mohammed, C, San Antonio
18.Reggie Evans, PF, Denver
19.Keith Van Horn, SF/PF, Dallas
20.Sam Cassell, PG, LA Clippers
21.Alonzo Mourning, Miami
22.Fred Jones, Indiana (Restricted)
23.Ruben Patterson, Denver (Player option)
24.Bobby Jackson, PG/SG, Memphis
25.Francisco Elson, Denver (Restricted)

The Rest Of The Point Guards:
David Wesley, Houston
Marcus Banks, Minnesota
Chucky Atkins, Memphis
Jason Hart, Sacramento (Player option)
Jannero Pargo, Chicago
Gary Payton, Miami
Tony Delk, Detroit
Nick Van Exel, San Antonio
Jacque Vaughn, New Jersey
Milt Palacio, Utah
Anthony Carter, Minnesota
Keith McLeod, Utah (Team option)
Rick Brunson, Seattle
Howard Eisley, LA Clippers
Lindsey Hunter, Detroit
Royal Ivey, Atlanta
Andre Emmett, Miami (Restricted)
Moochie Norris, Houston
Darrick Martin
Jeff McInnis, New Jersey (Player option)
Eddie Gill, Indiana
Darrell Armstrong, Dallas
Troy Bell
Mike Wilks, Cleveland
Mateen Cleaves, Seattle
Alvin Williams, Toronto (Player option)
Anthony Goldwire, LA Clippers
Antonio Burks, Memphis (Restricted)
Lionel Chalmers
Aaron Miles, Golden State
Anthony Roberson, Memphis (Team option)
Horace Jenkins

The Rest Of The Shooting Guards:
Keith Bogans, Houston (Restricted)
John Salmons, Philadelphia (Restricted)
Derek Anderson, Miami (Player option)
DerMarr Johnson, Denver
DeShawn Stevenson, Orlando (Player option)
Greg Buckner, Denver (Player option)
Anfernee Hardaway, Orlando
Jimmy Jackson, SG, Phoenix
Lamond Murray, New Jersey
Aaron McKie, LA Lakers (Player option)
Richie Frahm, Houston
Eric Piatkowski, Chicago
Linton Johnson, New Jersey
Matt Carroll, Charlotte (Team option)
Voshon Lenard, Portland
Shandon Anderson, Miami
Rawle Marshall, Dallas (Team option)
Awvee Storey, Washington (Restricted)
Stacey Augmon, Orlando
Andre Owens, Utah (Restricted)
Charles Smith, Portland
Bernard Robinson, Charlotte (Restricted)
Alex Acker, Detroit (Restricted)
Kevin Burleson, Charlotte (Restricted)
Reece Gaines, Milwaukee
Tony Bobbitt, LA Lakers (Restricted)
Jermaine Jackson
Von Wafer, LA Lakers (Team option)
Alan Anderson, Charlotte (Team option)
Devin Green, LA Lakers (Restricted)

The Rest Of The Small Forwards:
Jumaine Jones, Charlotte
Tim Thomas, Phoenix
Rasual Butler, New Orleans
Devean George, LA Lakers
Trevor Ariza, Orlando (Restricted)
Justin Reed, Minnesota (Restricted)
Devin Brown, Utah (Team option)
Walter McCarty, LA Clippers
Laron Profit, LA Lakers
Jiri Welsch, Milwaukee (Restricted)
Qyntel Woods, New York
Eric Williams, Toronto (Player option)
Toni Kukoc, Milwaukee
Lee Nailon, Philadelphia
Ronald Dupree, Minnesota (Restricted)
Ryan Bowen, Houston (Player option)
Maciej Lampe, Houston (Restricted)
George Lynch
Adrian Griffin, Dallas
Calbert Cheaney, Golden State
Shavlik Randolph, Philadelphia (Restricted)
Matt Barnes, Philadelphia
Bryon Russell, Denver
Ndudi Ebi
Donta Smith, Atlanta (Team option)
Sean Banks, New Orleans
Terrence Morris, Orlando

The Rest Of The Power Forwards:
Darius Songaila, Chicago (Player option)
Jackie Butler, New York (Restricted)
Alan Henderson, Cleveland
Jackson Vroman, New Orleans (Restricted)
Clifford Robinson, New Jersey (Team option)
Stanislav Medvedenko, LA Lakers
Lawrence Roberts, Memphis (Team option)
Samaki Walker, Indiana
Sean Marks, San Antonio
Aaron Williams, New Orleans
Brandon Bass, New Orleans (Team option)
Bo Outlaw, Orlando
Josh Powell, Dallas (Team option)
Jared Reiner, Phoenix
Lonny Baxter, Houston

The Rest Of The Centers:
Melvin Ely, Charlotte (Restricted)
Lorenzen Wright, PF/C, Memphis
Kelvin Cato, Detroit
Jarron Collins, Utah
DJ Mbenga, Dallas (Restricted)
Mario Kasun, Orlando (Restricted)
Scot Pollard, Indiana
Michael Olowokandi, C, Boston
Jake Voskuhl, Charlotte
Antonio Davis, Toronto
Brian Grant, Phoenix
Ervin Johnson, Milwaukee
Loren Woods, Toronto
Boniface N'Dong, LA Clippers (Restricted)
Michael Bradley, Philadelphia
Curtis Borchardt, Boston (Restricted)
Ha Seung-Jin, Portland (Restricted)
Jamal Sampson, Sacramento
Pat Burke, Phoenix
Zendon Hamilton, Cleveland
Earl Barron, Miami

Big Ben

And Speedy, of course to play backup PG

So now you dumbasses who should say we should sign Lebron can really see who we can get(probasketball.about.com):
The Supposed Top 25:
1.Ben Wallace, PF/C, Detroit
2.Jason Terry, PG, Dallas
3.Peja Stojakovic, SF, Indiana (Player option)
4.Al Harrington, PF, Atlanta
5.Mike James, Toronto (Player option)
6.Chris Wilcox, PF, Seattle (Restricted)
7.Nene, PF/C, Denver (Restricted)
8.Drew Gooden, PF, Cleveland (Restricted)
9.Bonzi Wells, SG/SF, Sacramento
10.Matt Harpring, SG/SF, Utah
11.Joel Przybilla, C, Portland
12.Ronald Murray, Cleveland
13.Speedy Claxton, PG, New Orleans
14.Vladimir Radmanovic, SF/PF, LA Clippers
15.Jared Jeffries, Washington (Restricted)
16.James Posey, SG/SF, Miami (Player option)
17.Nazr Mohammed, C, San Antonio
18.Reggie Evans, PF, Denver
19.Keith Van Horn, SF/PF, Dallas
20.Sam Cassell, PG, LA Clippers
21.Alonzo Mourning, Miami
22.Fred Jones, Indiana (Restricted)
23.Ruben Patterson, Denver (Player option)
24.Bobby Jackson, PG/SG, Memphis
25.Francisco Elson, Denver (Restricted)

The Rest Of The Point Guards:
David Wesley, Houston
Marcus Banks, Minnesota
Chucky Atkins, Memphis
Jason Hart, Sacramento (Player option)
Jannero Pargo, Chicago
Gary Payton, Miami
Tony Delk, Detroit
Nick Van Exel, San Antonio
Jacque Vaughn, New Jersey
Milt Palacio, Utah
Anthony Carter, Minnesota
Keith McLeod, Utah (Team option)
Rick Brunson, Seattle
Howard Eisley, LA Clippers
Lindsey Hunter, Detroit
Royal Ivey, Atlanta
Andre Emmett, Miami (Restricted)
Moochie Norris, Houston
Darrick Martin
Jeff McInnis, New Jersey (Player option)
Eddie Gill, Indiana
Darrell Armstrong, Dallas
Troy Bell
Mike Wilks, Cleveland
Mateen Cleaves, Seattle
Alvin Williams, Toronto (Player option)
Anthony Goldwire, LA Clippers
Antonio Burks, Memphis (Restricted)
Lionel Chalmers
Aaron Miles, Golden State
Anthony Roberson, Memphis (Team option)
Horace Jenkins

The Rest Of The Shooting Guards:
Keith Bogans, Houston (Restricted)
John Salmons, Philadelphia (Restricted)
Derek Anderson, Miami (Player option)
DerMarr Johnson, Denver
DeShawn Stevenson, Orlando (Player option)
Greg Buckner, Denver (Player option)
Anfernee Hardaway, Orlando
Jimmy Jackson, SG, Phoenix
Lamond Murray, New Jersey
Aaron McKie, LA Lakers (Player option)
Richie Frahm, Houston
Eric Piatkowski, Chicago
Linton Johnson, New Jersey
Matt Carroll, Charlotte (Team option)
Voshon Lenard, Portland
Shandon Anderson, Miami
Rawle Marshall, Dallas (Team option)
Awvee Storey, Washington (Restricted)
Stacey Augmon, Orlando
Andre Owens, Utah (Restricted)
Charles Smith, Portland
Bernard Robinson, Charlotte (Restricted)
Alex Acker, Detroit (Restricted)
Kevin Burleson, Charlotte (Restricted)
Reece Gaines, Milwaukee
Tony Bobbitt, LA Lakers (Restricted)
Jermaine Jackson
Von Wafer, LA Lakers (Team option)
Alan Anderson, Charlotte (Team option)
Devin Green, LA Lakers (Restricted)

The Rest Of The Small Forwards:
Jumaine Jones, Charlotte
Tim Thomas, Phoenix
Rasual Butler, New Orleans
Devean George, LA Lakers
Trevor Ariza, Orlando (Restricted)
Justin Reed, Minnesota (Restricted)
Devin Brown, Utah (Team option)
Walter McCarty, LA Clippers
Laron Profit, LA Lakers
Jiri Welsch, Milwaukee (Restricted)
Qyntel Woods, New York
Eric Williams, Toronto (Player option)
Toni Kukoc, Milwaukee
Lee Nailon, Philadelphia
Ronald Dupree, Minnesota (Restricted)
Ryan Bowen, Houston (Player option)
Maciej Lampe, Houston (Restricted)
George Lynch
Adrian Griffin, Dallas
Calbert Cheaney, Golden State
Shavlik Randolph, Philadelphia (Restricted)
Matt Barnes, Philadelphia
Bryon Russell, Denver
Ndudi Ebi
Donta Smith, Atlanta (Team option)
Sean Banks, New Orleans
Terrence Morris, Orlando

The Rest Of The Power Forwards:
Darius Songaila, Chicago (Player option)
Jackie Butler, New York (Restricted)
Alan Henderson, Cleveland
Jackson Vroman, New Orleans (Restricted)
Clifford Robinson, New Jersey (Team option)
Stanislav Medvedenko, LA Lakers
Lawrence Roberts, Memphis (Team option)
Samaki Walker, Indiana
Sean Marks, San Antonio
Aaron Williams, New Orleans
Brandon Bass, New Orleans (Team option)
Bo Outlaw, Orlando
Josh Powell, Dallas (Team option)
Jared Reiner, Phoenix
Lonny Baxter, Houston

The Rest Of The Centers:
Melvin Ely, Charlotte (Restricted)
Lorenzen Wright, PF/C, Memphis
Kelvin Cato, Detroit
Jarron Collins, Utah
DJ Mbenga, Dallas (Restricted)
Mario Kasun, Orlando (Restricted)
Scot Pollard, Indiana
Michael Olowokandi, C, Boston
Jake Voskuhl, Charlotte
Antonio Davis, Toronto
Brian Grant, Phoenix
Ervin Johnson, Milwaukee
Loren Woods, Toronto
Boniface N'Dong, LA Clippers (Restricted)
Michael Bradley, Philadelphia
Curtis Borchardt, Boston (Restricted)
Ha Seung-Jin, Portland (Restricted)
Jamal Sampson, Sacramento
Pat Burke, Phoenix
Zendon Hamilton, Cleveland
Earl Barron, Miami

So, who's young and athletic that the spurs should go after?

If we could someone get Jeffries, I'd be happy.

Anyone in that top 25 is probably going to get more than the MCE, so write them off. Look for the possible bargains and projects.

Bernard Robinson, Charlotte (Restricted)
Jumaine Jones, Charlotte
Rasual Butler, New Orleans
Qyntel Woods, New York
Ndudi Ebi
Melvin Ely, Charlotte (Restricted)
Jamal Sampson, Sacramento

I would not fret on giving Jarred Jeffries some cash, and trading Scola's rights away along with Nazr. (That would have to land us someone decent)

However, he is restricted and Washington would want to sign him up IMO.

I think Pop will be looking at Qyntel, Rasual, and Ndudi.

Jumaine Jones is 27. That's up there. We should think younger.

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I would not fret on giving Jarred Jeffries some cash, and trading Scola's rights away along with Nazr. (That would have to land us someone decent)

However, he is restricted and Washington would want to sign him up IMO.

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I can't imagine why Washington wouldn't want Jeffries back, but who knows, maybe they wouldn't mind a Nazr + Scola rights deal.

Damn it Josh Howard is so good, I wish he were a Spur. I love his game.


When you think about it, the Mavs have such a well built team. They have outside shooting, slashing, and they play defense this year.

Harris, Howard, and Terry are all quick mofos that can slash to the rim.

Dirk, Stack, Terry, Howard can shoot the 3 ball.

And they all create their own shots. They have a great 1v1 team, they can isolate for a bunch of guys, and Howard and Daniels can do a lot of intangible shit.

I was surprised in Daniels' playing time this series.

Bobby Jackson.

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Bobby Jackson.

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Not a bad idea for a backup. Definetly a better idea than Nick the Brick.

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Jumaine Jones is 27. That's up there. We should think younger.

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For our team, that is "younger". :lol Seriously, they signed Bowen at age 30. Jones shoots the 3ball, and rebounds well for a 3.

I'm not sure if anyone has answered this, but when can we start trading players?

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Not a bad idea for a backup. Definetly a better idea than Nick the Brick.

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:lol

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Not a bad idea for a backup. Definetly a better idea than Nick the Brick.

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I'd take anyone over NVE right now, thank god he is done in the NBA.

I think that would be a good enough encentive to land Jeffries.

However, we would have to attempt to split the MLE on a backup big and pg.

Drew Gooden can handle the rebounds. He is also a terrific offensive rebounder.

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Drew Gooden can handle the rebounds. He is also a terrific offensive rebounder.

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I doubt the Spurs can afford him though.

Kelvin Kato would seem logical, he's big and aggresive, I'm not so surea about his health and I wouldn't mind seeing Devin Brown back here.

the top 25 will all be too expensive for us. i really like deshawn stevenson or trevor ariza. i see devin brown is a FA. wonder if pop might want him back.

hopefully we can get some trades going to help us out.

I also think Clifford Robinson should be attainable and useful, even though he is 40 years old, he has made 'Second All-Defensive Team' in 2001 and 2002.

you guys need Dermarr Johnson, my favourite player on the Nuggets

GK never plays him and has pretty much stunted any growth he had going for him last season. He would a perfect guy to get and be mentored by Bowen and Pop.

He can shoot the 3, rebound, his D needs some work but his long arms can shut down the best when he is working hard. He shut down AI in the 4th qtr during the last game vs the Nuggets and they won coz of it

he just needs minutes and a decent coach to help him reach his potential. I love him as a player but i hope he gets out of Denver, he could do so much better under a better coach

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I also think Clifford Robinson should be attainable and useful.

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We can't do that because he was on the juice and that will damper our reputation. How about DESAGANA DIOP?

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Originally Posted by NuGGeTs-FaN

you guys need Dermarr Johnson, my favourite player on the Nuggets

GK never plays him and has pretty much stunted any growth he had going for him last season. He would a perfect guy to get and be mentored by Bowen and Pop.

He can shoot the 3, rebound, his D needs some work but his long arms can shut down the best when he is working hard. He shut down AI in the 4th qtr during the last game vs the Nuggets and they won coz of it

he just needs minutes and a decent coach to help him reach his potential. I love him as a player but i hope he gets out of Denver, he could do so much better under a better coach

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From what I've seen of his game, I agree, Dermarr would fit in with what the Spurs could use right now.



But from what I remember, he didn't get along too well with the Spurs in recent games...

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But from what I remember, he didn't get along too well with the Spurs in recent games...

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its probably coz of the bearcat brotherhood on the Nuggets squad
:lol

Kmart, Ruben and DJ.......im sure the first two create a bad image of DJ coz he is mates with them

:smokin

No to Clifford Robinson.

No to DeSagana Diop because he is under contract.

Jarred Jeffries is the guy, but he is unrestricted and that makes extremely difficult, but not impossible.

I think Rasual Butler is a great player with lots of potential. I think he'll be the best bargain of the off season for whoever signs him. His stats went way up when given playing time with the Hornets last year.

Why would the Spurs want Lasagna Diop????

Robinson was on the juice? :wow
I never knew that.

Calbert Cheney's career stats look good enough for what the Spurs need, 10 points and 3 rebounds.

He's 6'8" and weighs around 220(I think), I don't know much about his wingspan though. The downside he is like 29 years old. :lol

Spurs should also consider looking at Jamal Sampson. He's only 23 years old. 7'0" and weighs 240. He's young and inexperienced and might be a good project.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jamal_sampson/index.html

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Robinson was on the juice? :wow
I never knew that.

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He missed I think the rest of the Heat series after Game 2 or 3.

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No to Clifford Robinson.

No to DeSagana Diop because he is under contract.

Jarred Jeffries is the guy, but he is unrestricted and that makes extremely difficult, but not impossible.

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I could have sworn I saw Diop's name on there.

'Gana Diop is what happens when you buy draft hype.

Sampson is a rebounder. Not sure what else he can do, but if he isn't as stupid and butterfingered as Nazr, he's an improvement.

Stacey Augmon?? Isn't he like 63 years old?

Joel Pryzbilla anyone...

Is Jamal Sampson related to Ralph Sampson? They look exactly the same and carry they both carry the last name 'Sampson'.

Rasual Butler and Speedy Claxton would probably do the trick, but the Spurs would still need Scola or another big to replace Nazr.

If the team wants to "get younger", revisit the Barry for Smith deal. Sign Jumaine Jones and Devin Brown. Then see which Euro fits (probably Javtokas). There's also Sanikidze who might be ready to join the team and spend the first season on IR.

This wouldn't add a 1, but the Spurs do have some options, including a S&T for Mohammed.

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If the team wants to "get younger", revisit the Barry for Smith deal.

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I think the Spurs will be visiting many possible deals involving Barry.

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Rasual Butler and Speedy Claxton would probably do the trick, but the Spurs would still need Scola or another big to replace Nazr.

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I like butler alot, he's long, athletic and can hit the 3. I wouldn't mind 3 former hornets on the spurs roster next season: JR, Speedy, Rasual

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Is Jamal Sampson related to Ralph Sampson? They look exactly the same and carry they both carry the last name 'Sampson'.

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Nephew, I believe.

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Rasual Butler and Speedy Claxton would probably do the trick, but the Spurs would still need Scola or another big to replace Nazr.

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I agree with that. A perfect off-season would entail...

Sign Rasual
Sign Speedy
Bring in Javtokas (I'd rather him over Scola right now)
Trade for JR Smith

And get rid of...

Nick Van Exel
Brent Barry
Nazr Mohammed

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I like butler alot, he's long, athletic and can hit the 3. I wouldn't mind 3 former hornets on the spurs roster next season: JR, Speedy, Rasual

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It would give a lot of what they lacked this year, youth and athleticism.

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I like butler alot, he's long, athletic and can hit the 3. I wouldn't mind 3 former hornets on the spurs roster next season: JR, Speedy, Rasual

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They probably have chemistry with each other too.

I ran a Barry for Smith trade scenario on RealGM and got this:

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Due to San Antonio and New Orleans being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. San Antonio and New Orleans had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did not happen here (only San Antonio met the condition). This trade does not satisfy the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

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REALGM TRADECHECKER

I believe there was a third part involed and Srvydas Macijauskas was part of the deal too.

wow, this FA class sucks :lol

None-the-less, I believe there were some hard feelings with Speedy Claxton and POP because the Spurs did not pick up on his team-option year the first time around. so maybe Bobby Jackson is the way POP goes, although I think Speedy would come back in a heartbeat if they both just lowered their egos a bit.

Rasual Butler???!?!?


PLEASE SPURS GET HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Long 3, hits the 3 VERY well, very atheltic, and can defend.

You get him, youve got the long 3 of the future.


Bring in Javtokas, sign a Claxton or Bobby jackson with the rest of the money, and if Devin wants a vet min contract, bring him back too.


Swing a sign and trade with Mohammed for draft picks or whatever, and your set.

I wouldn't touch Bobby Jackson with a ten foot pole. The dude can certainly play, but he can't stay on the court long enough to make a difference and I'm not sure you can count on him being available enough to be a consistent back-up.

I wonder about how willing Claxton would be to come back to SA -- he's taken a run at starting in a number of places without much success in holding a starting job. Maybe his resignation to being a back-up would entice him to step back up to the elite. But Speedy brings the same health concerns that Bobby Jackson brings -- can he stay healthy enough to make a difference over the course of a full season?

If we're going to visit former Spurs, I thought I read some rumblings about Larry Bird breaking up the Pacers and wonder about Stephen Jackson's availability. If Bird is going to blow that team up, he might be willing to take a bad contract now in the hope of gaining some cap relief later. A contract plus a prospect might get you something there, though I'd be surprised if the Spurs had more than a passing interest in Jackson or, if they do, if they have enough to get him out of Indy.

And there's always Devin Brown, right?

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We can't do that because he was on the juice and that will damper our reputation. How about DESAGANA DIOP?

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HAHAHA, get your own players.

I actually wouldnt mind diop. All he needs to do is block shots.

j oneal would be great but would you trade manu or tp for him?

speedy has no jump shot
NO THANK YOU

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I wonder about how willing Claxton would be to come back to SA -- he's taken a run at starting in a number of places without much success in holding a starting job. Maybe his resignation to being a back-up would entice him to step back up to the elite. But Speedy brings the same health concerns that Bobby Jackson brings -- can he stay healthy enough to make a difference over the course of a full season?

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That's a luxuary that Beno affords you during the regular season. Plus, Speedy is a good floor leader, but can the Spurs afford both Claxton and Butler?

If you take a look at Bobby Jackson's season splits:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/bobby_...on_splits.html

He hasn't done that bad with the minutes thrown at him.

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If we're going to visit former Spurs, I thought I read some rumblings about Larry Bird breaking up the Pacers and wonder about Stephen Jackson's availability. If Bird is going to blow that team up, he might be willing to take a bad contract now in the hope of gaining some cap relief later. A contract plus a prospect might get you something there, though I'd be surprised if the Spurs had more than a passing interest in Jackson or, if they do, if they have enough to get him out of Indy.

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You'll find no bigger Jackson supporter than myself, but Bird just handing Jack to the Spurs and POP being smart enough to accept the offer seems like fantasy-land.

What about Mike James?

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What about Mike James?

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What about Mike James?

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James has a $3.72 player option with Toronto which he will probably decline. That makes him available to sign for way, way more than the Spurs will likely have to offer unless we do some sort of sign and trade.

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What about Mike James?

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I'm sure Pop loves his defense... plus the guy is amazingly clutch...

James is out of Spurs touch. We need to put that dog to sleep.

why do you guys want Brown so bad?


we all know he has the work ethic of an old donkey

he was an ok defender, but Id rather have Finley taking all of his minutes every time!

A lot of people are talking about signing Rasual Butler AND Speedy. With what money? :wtf

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A lot of people are talking about signing Rasual Butler AND Speedy. With what money? :wtf

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That's just it, any deal for the two would have to involve a multi-player, possibly sign-and-trade deal, or multi-team deal which the Spurs don't usually do. Still, Barry and Rasho may be attractive to teams looking to dump future salaries.

What happens to Oberto? Is he a complete write-off? Does he take Marks' 12th man role?

Bobby J shot .382 this year, was benched by his coach, and frequently injured. Loved his game 3 years ago, but now? Nup.

Do we go for Rasual and put some faith in Beno at backup PG?

If all we want in a big is rebounding and some beef, Kelvin Cato would fit the bill. He had a poor 05, but in 04 playing in Orl he was good for 10/10/2 per 40 minutes. Another project big - Melvin Ely? But what is his D like? We have so many bigs sitting in Europe that it seems we'll go that way though.

Some people suggested QWoods - yes, he's talented, but do you see a fvckwit like him fitting in on the Spurs? Too many character issues.

I like the D. Johnson idea and if we could get that deal with the Hornets that was in place in Feb. then that would be great. I doubt a sign and trade will happen with Nazr unless he goes to a cellar dwellar in the East.

[QUOTE]Not a bad idea for a backup. Definetly a better idea than Nick the Brick.




whaaaaaaat

we don't need projects, we need players that can play right now. the only thing more upsetting than not winning a championship this year is the fact that duncan will be another year older and we are never going to have a player like him again. i don't want to waste duncan's best years trying to develp projects, that makes zero sense. duncan only has about 4 years, imo, of great bball left in him; so lets get so good players.

...i vote for speedy claxton and jumaine jones. then trying to bring in javtokas and whatever veteran player w/legs that Pop wants.

I wonder how much Devean George would cost? He is an excellent role player.

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No to Clifford Robinson.

No to DeSagana Diop because he is under contract.

Jarred Jeffries is the guy, but he is unrestricted and that makes extremely difficult, but not impossible.

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As far as Washington concerned,they would probably accept Moha+Scola's right for Jeffries.

Rasual Butler might have the skill set (shoot 3's, defend, etc) but I think he's a little short for what they are looking for. Pop said they are looking for a 6'9/6'10 athlete. I think Rasual is 6'7 or shorter.

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Rasual Butler might have the skill set (shoot 3's, defend, etc) but I think he's a little short for what they are looking for. Pop said they are looking for a 6'9/6'10 athlete. I think Rasual is 6'7 or shorter.

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Then Jeffries could be ideal could'n he?
Javtokas for LLE,and maybe I m wrong,but Udrich could play 10-15 as a backup PG.

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Then Jeffries could be ideal could'n he?
Javtokas for LLE,and maybe I m wrong,but Udrich could play 10-15 as a backup PG.

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Jeffries could be. But since he's restricted, it might be hard to get him.

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Jeffries could be. But since he's restricted, it might be hard to get him.

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That's why I read Scola's right+Moha (s&t)for Jeffries.

thats abit too much for an unproven player

nazr cant be packeged with any trades unless he wants max in a sign n trade

scola>jared

No to Jeffries. This guy is an average role player and will be paid the full MLE.
I take Jumaine Jones for $10M/3years over Jeffries for $30M/5years.

Rasual Butler, New Orleans is the sleeper of the group. Always capable of hitting a big three and athletic.

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nazr cant be packeged with any trades unless he wants max in a sign n trade

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thats abit too much for an unproven player

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If anyone is unproven it's Scola.

Giving nearly the full MLE to a player like Scola is much more of a risk than giving it to someone like Jeffries.

Agreed.

But I don't get all the hype about Jared Jeffries.

The guy has been a bust, and is a DECENT player.


Rasual Butler, when given PT, is a 3pt shooting stud.

Good D also, comes from the house of Stan Van Gundy and Riley.

Also, Id research a trade for S Jax who like has been said is about 6'9 and VERY long armed, and is a big time clutch shooter slasher who draws fouls and draws the D.


Rasual Butler, or Stephen Jackson.


Get it done boys :tu

Jared Jeffries a Bust?

Possibly. He was taken 11th, which is a lottery pick.

However, thats why I don't believe he will get the full MLE....he was not outstanding in the playoffs, and he has not been dominant in his 4 years as a pro nor did he have a break out season like a Bobby Simmons last year.

Washington currently has a log jam with Caron and Hayes at the SF, and have a lot of money tied up in Jamison, Haywood, and Thomas.....so,they could let Jeffries walk eventhough restricted.....ala...Nazr.

The guy is 6-10, long arms, quick on his feet, can run the floor, and is capable of scoring, but his offense is inconsistent....mainly due to line-up changes, minutes, etc...

His defense is nothing special nor is it horrible. We have seen guys in here who have not been of the defensive demeanor and get the job done....SJax, G-Rob, and Finley.

With the Spurs defensive scheme's....Duncan's ability to make teammates better, and already offensive minded guards in Parker and Ginobili....there is not much pressure for Jeffries.


Call me an idiot if you'd like for believing in this kid, but not many believed in Boris Diaw, when some thought he was too passive, had zero offense, and practically could not even get off the bench in wretched Atlanta.....a change in team and leadership can go a long way for a player trying to find himself in a comfortable system....ala....Jeffries.

Speedy and Devean George for his tenacity on defense will help this ball club

Rasual butler is a nice player but how does he improve our team? he's the same height and weight as bruce and he had a hard time with Bonzi and Dirk how do you see butler doing? Basicly we'd be in the same situation as we were this post season, not enough height to guard dirk and not enough weight to effectively box out big SFs like bonzi.

Butler just doesn't solve our problems and neither does Sjax, we need a guy like Jeffries. He can guard the 2, 3, 4 and 5 which means he's big enough to box out guys like Wells and quick enough to D up Dirk. Don't call him a bust just yet, he's only 24 years old and never was a big part of the wiz offense getting just 5 shots a game. He could pull a diaw and double his production on the right team.

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He can guard the 2, 3, 4 and 5 which means he's big enough to box out guys like Wells and quick enough to D up Dirk. Don't call him a bust just yet, he's only 24 years old and never was a big part of the wiz offense getting just 5 shots a game. He could pull a diaw and double his production on the right team.

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Thankyou

Some Wiz fans are saying that Jared Jeffries will be gone.

Either they are looking for a pick or a player in return....and a newly signed Jeffries will be yours.

So, I wonder if they would be interested in Nazr.....or possibly the rights to Luis Scola?

Actually Jeffries is listed at 6-11 240 lbs

I was lookin at his stats, he has improved pretty much in each category. Especially the block category goin from .3, .3, to .5 and then this year .7.

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Originally Posted by El_Mago

Some Wiz fans are saying that Jared Jeffries will be gone.

Either they are looking for a pick or a player in return....and a newly signed Jeffries will be yours.

So, I wonder if they would be interested in Nazr.....or possibly the rights to Luis Scola?

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Alot of reporters including M.Wilbon in washington think the wiz will let Jeffries walk, not because they don't like him but because the wiz already have 13 players under contract(the max is 15 i think) and they need bigs who can score inside. He's restricted so the spurs may just not wish to take a chance on the wiz matching or they might have someone completely different in mind.

I know his stats are not eye opening, but i'm backing Jeffries 100%

Diaw's stats in Atlanta were not staggering either, and the kid blew up to be a huge threat.

Jeffries is young at only 24....Popovich is a great coach at developing...and all the Star Power is here for Jeffries to blossom....and he would not take long to blossom like a Euro barely coming in.....he's already been in the league, so it might be a Diaw situation where he just blows up.

Exactly, the Wiz are not in a good situation to where they can sign him up....

The cards might be in our favor.....he would be a huge steal for us.....talent like him can not be found easily.....dude, is 6-10 or 6-11....and can guard big SG to PF's.....he's just a jem that needs some polishing....

Jeffries is my man this summer.....I'm rooting for him until he signs with the Wiz, Spurs, or another team....

Kurt Thomas (6'9) seems to be the odd-man out in Phoenix with Diaw exploding and Amare coming back this summer. I'm just not sure that Rasho, Nazr or even Scola would be enough to interest Phoenix.

The only one who sticks out to me is Ben Wallace. At least right now. How much longer can he go is what I am concerned about.

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Rasual butler is a nice player but how does he improve our team? he's the same height and weight as bruce and he had a hard time with Bonzi and Dirk how do you see butler doing? Basicly we'd be in the same situation as we were this post season, not enough height to guard dirk and not enough weight to effectively box out big SFs like bonzi.

Butler just doesn't solve our problems and neither does Sjax, we need a guy like Jeffries. He can guard the 2, 3, 4 and 5 which means he's big enough to box out guys like Wells and quick enough to D up Dirk. Don't call him a bust just yet, he's only 24 years old and never was a big part of the wiz offense getting just 5 shots a game. He could pull a diaw and double his production on the right team.

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Butler can't play a lick of D.

Jeffries is intriguing because he can play SG, SF and PF. I'm not saying he could become an Antoine Walker-like point forward, but he's a good ball-handler for a big man plus he might not be Dan Gadzuric but he can run the floor pretty well for someone his size.

ben want 70-80mill or sumthing that starts at 12mill a season

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Kurt Thomas (6'9) seems to be the odd-man out in Phoenix with Diaw exploding and Amare coming back this summer. I'm just not sure that Rasho, Nazr or even Scola would be enough to interest Phoenix.

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It's more of a case that Marion seems to be the odd-man out with Diaw's emergence and Amare coming back. PHO would want to keep Thomas around because of his rebounding, ability to defend big post players (despite his relatively small stature), and ability to drain the 15-foot jumper a la Charles Oakley. With Diaw, Stoudemire, and Thomas possibly being set next year at SF, PF, and C respectively, Marion might be redundant.

jared is not restrictive if i were him, instead of signin for 1-2mill on teams outside of texas, after tax is probaly half of it, why dont he just sign with us for the minimum or LLE tax free.

korii correct me on this one, meal payouts for game dayz are not counted towards there salary right? so he can spend half or nothin and save it to buy crack :D