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Originally Posted by Drbio
That's just fucking weak man.
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Originally Posted by Drbio
That's just fucking weak man.
Yup, he can't say no to a man's harry ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drbio
Not really. It was weak to you since you got pwned. Lighten up man....it's all in fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by I H8 Mavs Fans
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Originally Posted by Drbio
proctology? that was a funny word when I was like five.
Did I say we never got ANY calls? No. I've found myself watching the games before and saying "oh crap, we traveled" or "stupid foul" only to follow it up with "wow, we got away with one there." I know we've gotten some calls in the past, but to say we got ALL OF THE CALLS for the past 3 YEARS is ridiculous. Its as if you're implying that our succes in 2 out of those 3 years had to do with those calls and thats just not true at all. Now the Lakers for several years have gotten almost all of the calls. This year, so have the Mavs. Its a well known fact that all-star players get the Jordan treatment to an extent. The super stars just get away with a little more than the unknown guys. I'm fine with that. That's not whats happening in this years playoffs. And please don't call me a homer, cuz I'm willing to throw out the whole spurs-mavs series in this argument. Let's take the Suns-Lakers series. There were dozens of complete BS calls in favor of the Lakers in that series, and aside from Kobe, no one on that team really deserves the Jordan treatment. Yes Phoenix did win that series, but it took them 7 games to defeat a team that was nowhere near as good as they were. Pull that same one-sided officiating in a series with say 2 60 win teams, and the story is a little different. Those 2 teams would be about equal playing wise, and that little ref help would probably determine the outcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by BAkriD
It will begin to mean a lot more to you again when you hit 35.Quote:
Originally Posted by I H8 Mavs Fans
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Originally Posted by Drbio
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Originally Posted by Drbio
No it won't I eat right, and drink plenty of Water, which is the best thing to avoid Kidney stones, that shits scary
Kidney Stones=scarrier that butt problems
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Originally Posted by I H8 Mavs Fans
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Originally Posted by MissAllThat
Hold up, so you are saying that the Spurs only got some calls? Well, if you weren't so biased you would be able to see and admit that they have gotten more calls than any other team in the last three years.
You're too worried about it taking away from the titles that they won if you admit it, well every team that has won a title has had some help from the officials. Now, I'm not saying that the Spurs got as many calls as the Lakers did 2000-2002, but really what does that matter when you are getting more calls than any other team in the league, from 2003-2006? Too bad for you that those calls ran out before the second round of the playoffs.
Really I'm not trying to take away the Spurs rings or say that they don't deserve them, because if I did it to them I would have to do the same thing to all championship teams. Jordan's Bulls got a ton of calls, but that doesn't mean that they weren't great or deserve to be champions, I just think people need to get real and admit how things really are. Spurs have gotten a ton of calls in the last 3 years, just admit it.
Do you even watch Kobe and the Lakers play or Lebron and the Cavs? Lebron gets more calls than any other player in the league aside from maybe Kobe, and since he's gotten to Cleveland, i'd say the Cavs are getting more calls than any other team in the league. I admitted the Spurs get calls, but to say that they have gotten more calls than any other team in the league for the past 3 years is just bogus, especially if you're including this year (2006) in that mix. The only way this could be true is if the only reason they won their first 40 or so games this season was fully do to the refs and them getting more calls than every other team in the league. I'll admit i didn't watch most of first half maybe even 3/4 of the season. All in all, not including playoffs, I probably watched them play maybe 25 games, and that might be stretching it. However, the other 2 years in question, I watched most, if not every, game, and I just didn't see that happening. We're the same team that had .4 happen to us. How on earth could we have been getting more calls than any team in the league and have such an atrocity occur against our team? Do we get some calls? Yes. Do we get more calls in our favor than a team like the Grizzlies or the Bobcats? Yes. Have we gotten more calls than any other team in the past 3 years? No, unless of course the only reason we won so many games this year was because the games were given to us, and as far as I know, from replays and online stories, thats not the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by BAkriD
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I'm not talking about what individual players get the most calls or get away with the most stuff, I'm talking about what team as a whole gets the most calls. Yes, Kobe and LeBron get a ton of calls, but the Lakers and the Cavs get nowhere near the calls that the Spurs do.
You're a Spurs fan and you didn't watch the first 3/4 of the season? I'm absolutely speechless, I don't even know what to say to you about that. I'm a Kings fan and I very well could have watched more Spurs games this year than you! That's kind of sad.
The Spurs got calls all regular season long and through the first round, but the 3 years of calls came to a halt in the second round against the Mavs. I don't think that all the calls went the Mavs way, but they probably did get the better of the officiating, especially considering that they were the road team. This is the first time the Mavs have ever had this advantage in the playoffs, the same advantage that your team has enjoyed for so many games.
I knew I was gonna hear it for that, and I watched every game I possibly could. It just so happens that I was busy with classes and school and other things several times during the season. I'm a huge UNC/Texas basketball fan, and despite going to the University of Texas, I wasn't able to go to many of the home games we had. It absolutely killed me all semester to be in a 3 hour history class and not at the game or not watching the games on TV. I would have loved to have gone, but I'm actually trying to graduate soon and then go to law school. Not to mention, despite what Mark Cuban says, we don't get a ton of Spurs games in Austin. I got the ones on FoxSports, TNT, ESPN, and ABC and maybe an occasional one on the WB, but those were random. I did watch the Spurs whenever possible, even post-poning going out when the Spurs played those lovely 9:30 games on Friday and Saturday nights. You probably did watch more games than I did. I wouldn't be surprised. This is the first year I've seen this few games, but I did try to keep track view ESPNews/Sportscenter highlights and online stats/articles. I still followed the team. I just couldn't watch the games. Oh and did I mention we had a nice little flood in our building in November and didn't have cable at all for like a month because the cable company couldn't figure out how to fix it? It just wasn't a good year for me and the spurs. I'm not one of those fans that just shows up around playoff time. It just so happens that this year that was around the time my semester was coming to a close and I was able to finally sit down and watch some games.Quote:
Originally Posted by BAkriD
This isn't the first time the Mavs have ever had an advantage in the playoffs. See 2003 game 1 vs. Spurs. They shot over 50 free throws. That game was crap too. The Spurs have gotten some calls in the past. I've admitted that, and yes they've probably gotten more calls than the crappy teams, but they're about even as far as calls go with all of the other elite teams over the past 5 years, except for maybe the Pistons because they hardly ever get calls in their favor. We haven't had an unfair advantage in terms of calls for the past 3 years. The only reason I can see for this argument is that we won 2 titles, and yet its not true at all. It just didn't happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by BAkriD
Harm, but no foul
Fresh from the Too Little, Too Late Dept. comes word that the NBA rescinded the technical foul against San Antonio's Michael Finley in the second quarter of Game 4 in Dallas. Finley was called for a technical with 4:44 remaining in the half, and it appeared to be borderline at best. ``You can imagine what I wanted to say when I heard that," said Spurs coach Gregg Popovich, who found out about the decision Thursday. ``Does that mean we win the game by 1 point?" Game 4, which was played May 15, went into overtime, and the Mavericks prevailed, 123-118, so the technical was huge. (Dirk Nowitzki made the free throw.) For Finley, it means he won't have to fork over $1,000 to the league. For the Spurs, it means yet another tough break in a series they just as easily could have won.
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketb..._force/?page=3
you blow all this wind about the spurs getting calls "all year long" and for "the last 3 years" but avoid being specific. the spurs do not get all the calls, despite what you think. so quit bullshitting until you can provide some proof for what you are talking about. anyone can sit there and say another team gets every call, it doesn't make it true. the spurs had 1,714 personal fouls called on them this year. their opponents had 1,709. one would think if they got every call all season the numbers would point to that disparity.Quote:
Originally Posted by BAkriD
What do you think I keep a fucking video log and a journal to document the Spurs? My own two eyes and unbiased opinion are all I need to see the obvious. Like I said earlier I watch at least 200 games a season and that is plenty of basis and proof for me to draw the conclusion that the Spurs have gotten favortism from the refs in recent history. I've already admitted that my team has also benefitted from the same favoritism for 2 straight seasons, so why can't you just admit that yours has benefitted from it?Quote:
Originally Posted by leemajors
The number of foul calls really means shit, how about watching the games and seeing the context of those calls. I could give shit about foul called on the Spurs when the Spurs are up by 15 points, how about when the game is tight and they are allowed to get more physical and aggressive than their opponents? The Spurs play great defense, but they are given more rope when it comes to getting after a team physically, especially when the game is on the line.
your opinion is not unbiased, that in iteself is a contradiction in terms. i don't think you need a video log and a journal, but speaking in general terms with no basis is retarded. i just don't happen to think that the spurs have received an overwhelming amount of beneficial calls just because they have been successful recently, and your posts contain nothing overwhelming to the contrary.
BAkriD using this year as an example, where did the Spurs players rank in terms of taking it to the basket and scoring in the paint? Where did the Spurs rank in terms of drawing fouls and going to the line? Where did the Spurs rank in terms of FT differential? Where does your theory rank on a stupidity scale, 1 being stupidest and 10 being smartest?
Alright, then answer a couple of other questions for me.
Has the NBA shown a history of giving favortism to the majority of championship teams? Did Bird's Celics, Magic's Lakers, Daly's Pistons, Dream's Rockets, Jordan's Bulls, and Shaq's Lakers all recieve favortism from the refs? I don't think there is any doubt to the answer of that question.
Do you believe that the Spurs are 3 time champs without any help from the refs? Better yet, did they do it in spite of the refs? Has the officiating been fair and balanced in all the Spurs playoffs series until the Mavs this year?
Please tell me what your opinion is of the officiating in the Spurs playoff runs of recent history. Are there any series that stick out as poorly officiated? In either direction, doesn't matter.
Please, I would love to know your opinions on the NBA officiating.
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Originally Posted by ducks
Thanks, ducks.
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Tell you what, show us where it hasn't been fair.Quote:
Do you believe that the Spurs are 3 time champs without any help from the refs? Better yet, did they do it in spite of the refs? Has the officiating been fair and balanced in all the Spurs playoffs series until the Mavs this year?
The Spurs got no love from the refs in 2003, hell they had to play 5 on 8 in the Lakers series that year to pull it out.
As for '05, the Spurs never got the benefit of shooting 50 FTs in a road game like the Mavs, and they sure didn't get the benefit of the calls in the Finals when Ben and 'Sheed were beating the shit out of Nazr and Duncan without a single foul call.
Fuck, we couldn't even guard Bonzi or Artest in round 1 this year without getting saddled with foul trouble.
Again, enumerate where you think the Spurs got all the calls, or shut the fuck up.
2005-2006
Spurs shot 1892 FTs
Opponents 1912 FTs
2005 2006
Mavs shot 2322 FTs with no credible post threat
Opponents 2162 FTs
Who gets the favorable calls again?
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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
Exactly what I thought, some fucking idiot would step up with some bullshit about how the Spurs have been getting screwed by the officials. Obviously not the popular opinion around here, but there are definitely a few retards out there that believe that the refs have been fucking the Spurs. If you think that the Spurs have been getting screwed in recent years, you are in for a really rough ride. Believe me I know what it is like when your team stops getting the calls they used to, it will be really frustrating to you homers who already think that they are getting the shitty end of the stick. It appears the Spurs are not going to get the calls against other elite teams anymore, you will have a lot more of these threads to bitch about the officiating. Have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So what, the Spurs also shot like 250 more 3-pointers. They take it to the basket less than the Mavs. Why do you think that Wade and Iverson get the line more than any other superstars in the league? Because they don't settle for the outside shot, they take it hard to the rack.Quote:
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Originally Posted by BAkriD
Yeah, Ginobili and Parker never go into the lane. Same with that Duncan dude.
Let's see, 250 3 pointers is roughly 3 per game. That's 3 times that we don't drive that you do. So, that explains a FT discrepancy of 410 FTAs? That's 5 FTAs per contest.