Anyone actually think Mavs can win a title with Anthony Johnson as their PG?

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Originally Posted by spurs_in_7

for me its:

1.suns*
2.spurs
3.mavs

2007 western champs: spurs or suns*

*with a %100 amare

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Don't kid yourself. Even with a 100% Amare, the Mavs and Spurs are better than the Suns.

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Originally Posted by Dirk41MVP

I never said they could shut down duncan all the time or AJ would score 40 pts all the time. I just said that AJ is a good PG despite what people around here think. He has the CAPABILITIES of putting up big numbers if needed, or providing help when he's on the floor. He is not a scrub like your boy Van exel was last season (random example), the guy can provide quality minutes. I never said he would score 40 a game, I said he is not bad as everybody here pictures him to be.

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Taking Anthony Johnson's 40 point game as an indication of his capability is akin to taking Sleepy Floyd's 51 point game as an indication of his capabilities; it's misleading.

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Originally Posted by Dirk41MVP

McGrady shut dirk down ?, nah, Dirk was off that entire season and part of the Phoenix series as well. Had he been on fire and then shut down by McGrady, I would maybe agree, but he never found a groove during those playoffs, even when being guarded by other players in red and purple uniforms. Duncan was lighting it up and then got shut down by Diop in the OT when it counted the most... and it may have been 5 minutes, but those 5 minutes cost you the entire season.

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So why can't Duncan be just "off" in that OT? Why would a player who was averaging over 12 fouls per 48 minutes in a series turn in 5 minutes of solid performance in a 7 game series (which has more than 350 minutes) be ANY indication that Diop is capable of shutting down Duncan, while McGrady being able to do so consistently on Dirk over a 7 game series be just an "off-series" for McGrady? This makes absolutely ZERO sense. This is actually even more humourous considering that YOU came up with the following sarcastic quote:

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Originally Posted by Dirk41MVP

I'll take Diop, since he already shut him down in the OT of game 7, making him go 1-6 or 1-7 something like that.. oh wait, I forgot. Duncan's PF kicked in at the start of OT in that game... right, my bad

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So in your universe, a 5 minute showing is indicative of a player's ability, while a solid 7 game showing is just an aberration from the season?

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Originally Posted by Dirk41MVP

This comment was more in response to the mocking "anyone actually think the mavs can win a tile with AJ as a pg" and the same for Diop at center. I never said that would be the "norm" as you call it. If they did it, it means they have the capabilities of doing it again, will that be the "norm" ? no, but you never know what can happen in those games.

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So what you are saying is that Anthony Johnson has the capabilities of scoring 40 points because he has done that before, with his next career high at 27 points (I think)? Nick Van Exel scored in the 30's regularly a couple of years back, guess what? It wasn't indicative of what he is able to do for the Spurs last year. Samuel Dalembert grabbed 22 rebounds once, doesn't mean ANYTHING other than the fact that he did it once in his career.

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Yeah I agree it's a stupid post, since it's your quote. Good luck shutting down superstars in the NBA... if that was so easy to do, well there wouldn't be any in the league... and yeah I hate frenchies, sorry.

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I will try not to comment on your racist views ....

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Originally Posted by dirk4mvp

Don't kid yourself. Even with a 100% Amare, the Mavs and Spurs are better than the Suns.

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Noooooooooooo! I agree with a Mavs fan!

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Originally Posted by ambchang

Noooooooooooo! I agree with a Mavs fan!

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AJ owns the spurs and Diop owns duncan, get it over with. He shut him down, plain and simple. I crack up when y'all morons reply to all my "trollness" rofl... oh and besides frenchies are indifferent to me, I just wanted to troll some more... :elephant wankers.

I guess its a good thing Kori runs this board and not me, alot of these mavs fans (like Dirk41MVP) would have IP bans by now, I have no tollarance for jackassery (is that a word? :spin ), there are only a few here that actually bring some intellectual posts to the boards (like Dirk4MVP and Mavs>Spurs)

as far as AJ, I think he's gonna be great for Spot minutes... he shouldnt be starting though.

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Originally Posted by Dirk41MVP

AJ owns the spurs and Diop owns duncan, get it over with. He shut him down, plain and simple. I crack up when y'all morons reply to all my "trollness" rofl... oh and besides frenchies are indifferent to me, I just wanted to troll some more... :elephant wankers.

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Heat own the mavs, get it over with. They shut them down plain and simple. I crack up when moron mav fans forget they dropped four straight after being up two zero when it COUNTED the most(to a very old heat team). Probably one of the biggest choke jobs in NBA history. Yet you guys trump last season as if it ended in success. Spurs fans could give two shits about you guys going to the finals. As most of you will learn going to the finals is not a given. No matter what your team accomplished the previous season, it doesn't matter because other teams get better and younger. What the mavs did last season wont carry over to this season because every team starts out with a clean slate. So get over last season because it didn't end well for either of our teams, if you don't bring home the trophy then no excuses our seasons ended with disappointment.

I think its funny that you feel like you get a rise out of spurs fans by coming in here and spiting out non sense. Its funny because its a spurs fan forum that your on, and your so proud of your as of yet unaccomplished team. Why spend so much of your time here rather than a heat message board? Do you think that you'll feel better if you talk shit about last season because the mavs knocked out the spurs? For what ever reason you "troll" these boards, don't think for a second that your getting the best of us. Losing is a big part of being a fan of any team for any sport. We deal with it move on and get ready for next season. As spurs fans we've been very fortunate to have a franchise that always stays with in contention. The only way our series lost could have been very devastating is if the mavs would have won it all. But even then I wouldn't go bragging on another teams message board about how we beat them last season when my team chocked in the finals. That would be pretty retarded, don't you think?

The mavs would've won the series if it weren't for the refs. In my mind the mavs won the championship that was taken away of because Stern hates Cuban and his boy is D. Wade that he gave every call to. When the refs were fair it proved who was the better team and that was the mavs.

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

The mavs would've won the series if it weren't for the refs. In my mind the mavs won the championship that was taken away of because Stern hates Cuban and his boy is D. Wade that he gave every call to. When the refs were fair it proved who was the better team and that was the mavs.

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NO EXCUSES! Quit crying like a little bitch and get ready for this season! :ihit

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

The mavs would've won the series if it weren't for the refs. In my mind the mavs won the championship that was taken away of because Stern hates Cuban and his boy is D. Wade that he gave every call to. When the refs were fair it proved who was the better team and that was the mavs.

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You and the rest of the Mavs massive. :sleep

For the third consecutive season, NBA general managers predict the San Antonio Spurs will win The Finals in 2007, and for the first time the Cleveland Cavaliers’ LeBron James will win the MVP award, according to respondents of the Fifth Annual NBA.com GM Survey.

The exclusive survey, providing fans with an inside look into the minds of NBA decision-makers on the 2006-07 NBA season, revealed that 43 percent of GMs believe the Spurs will win The Finals. The Dallas Mavericks received 29 percent of the GMs vote and the Miami Heat received only 14 percent of the vote to repeat as NBA Champions. In last year’s NBA.com GM Survey, 77 percent of GMs selected the Spurs to win The Finals.

For the first time in the NBA.com GM Survey, the Cavaliers’ James (79 percent) was selected by GMs as the best small forward in the league, while last year’s best small forward pick, the Houston Rockets’ Tracy McGrady, did not receive any votes. Reigning two-time MVP Steve Nash of the Phoenix Suns (96 percent) was picked by GMs as the best point guard, while the Los Angeles Lakers’ Kobe Bryant (71 percent) topped the Heat’s Dwyane Wade (21 percent) as the best shooting guard in the league. More than 57 percent of GMs selected the Spurs’ Duncan as the best power forward and the Heat’s Shaquille O’Neal (75 percent) as the best center. This marks the fifth consecutive year GMs have selected Bryant, Duncan and O’Neal as the best at their position.

For the fifth consecutive year, Bryant was also selected by GMs (74 percent) as the player they want taking a shot with the game on the line, and the Mavericks’ Dirk Nowitzki was once again viewed as the best international player in the NBA (89 percent).

James, selected by 39 percent of GMs to win the 2006-07 MVP award, was also picked by 71 percent of GMs as the top player they would sign to start an NBA franchise, the best finisher (30 percent) and the most athletic player in the league (37 percent).

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

The mavs would've won the series if it weren't for the refs. In my mind the mavs won the championship that was taken away of because Stern hates Cuban and his boy is D. Wade that he gave every call to. When the refs were fair it proved who was the better team and that was the mavs.

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The ref excuse is garbage. WHat about being up 2-0? Did I miss seeing any refs?

I have to agree with the above post -- the Mavs were up 2-0, and had a lead in the late stretches of Game 3.

The refs arent to blame. The only people to be blamed are the Mavs themselves - specifically, Dirk nowitzki for the stupendous choke job.

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Originally Posted by Dirk41MVP

AJ owns the spurs and Diop owns duncan, get it over with. He shut him down, plain and simple. I crack up when y'all morons reply to all my "trollness" rofl... oh and besides frenchies are indifferent to me, I just wanted to troll some more... :elephant wankers.

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Trolling is coming up with some twisted logic that the opposition cannot refute, coming in and having every single one of your arguments revoked is not trolling, is making a clown out of yourself.

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

The mavs would've won the series if it weren't for the refs. In my mind the mavs won the championship that was taken away of because Stern hates Cuban and his boy is D. Wade that he gave every call to. When the refs were fair it proved who was the better team and that was the mavs.

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Can a Spurs fan say the same thing with Spurs substituting for Mavs, Mavs substituting for Heat, take out Cuban and add small market, replace D. Wade and put in Dirk Nowitzki? Just wondering.

Mavs winning a title with Aj in the lineup? Pssshh.. they couldn't even win with Nash on it

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Originally Posted by bdictjames

Mavs winning a title with Aj in the lineup? Pssshh.. they couldn't even win with Nash on it

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Riiiight. It was Nash's fault the Mavs never got to the finals when he was on the team. It couldn't of have anything to do with Nellie's style of play, could it?

is there anything outside of this thread saying that AJ is starting?

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Originally Posted by leemajors

is there anything outside of this thread saying that AJ is starting?

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It was mentioned on a dallas newspaper. Terry would move to the 2 and AJ would be the point guard. Hopefully it doesn't happen. If Terry is going to move to the 2 than at least put Harris there than.

People have overrated the suns since the first season Nash played with them. And since then, they haven't even come close to a championship, and they never will. With their style of play they will be a good regular season team at best, not a good playoff team. That style of play has been proven time and time again not to work, yet people still overrate them more than any other sports team I can think of. At least in a couple years when Nash slows down all this Suns hype will die down.

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Originally Posted by mavs>spurs

People have overrated the suns since the first season Nash played with them. And since then, they haven't even come close to a championship, and they never will. With their style of play they will be a good regular season team at best, not a good playoff team. That style of play has been proven time and time again not to work, yet people still overrate them more than any other sports team I can think of. At least in a couple years when Nash slows down all this Suns hype will die down.

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It works pretty well against the mavs because Dallas doesn't have a big man in the post that can slow down the tempo and get easy scores. San Antonio though is the anti-suns because of Duncan. mavs>spurs>>suns but the mavs are only slightly better when they matchup with the suns.

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

The mavs would've won the series if it weren't for the refs.

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WEAK!!!!

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

The mavs would've won the series if it weren't for the refs. In my mind the mavs won the championship that was taken away of because Stern hates Cuban and his boy is D. Wade that he gave every call to. When the refs were fair it proved who was the better team and that was the mavs.

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Then it's Karma