Three years ago Nbadraft won, I think. Two years was DX, last year was ESPN. For number of 1st rounders correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkwaters
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Three years ago Nbadraft won, I think. Two years was DX, last year was ESPN. For number of 1st rounders correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkwaters
Suppose a guy comes to you with a proposition bet: He wants you to bet several million dollars on a bet that the odds say will lose 4-1.
Are you a player on this bet? Even if you win occasionally, the odds are with the house and eventually you'll lose. Las Vegas is built on these type of odds bet by suckers.
Or do you make a bet on a proposition bet that you cannot lose (pick-a-Euro) because you don't have to put up ANY money at all. If you guess right, you win, and if you guess wrong, you don't lose so you win either way.
See your point, but this is not past years where the Spurs have the luxury of drafting "projects" and leaving them overseas. The Spurs have legitimate needs for next year and certainly the following year. It is a calculated risk to take players that you have to pay and put on the roster right away, but it's one that the Spurs will likely have to make with at least one, if not more, of their draft picks.Quote:
Originally Posted by wildbill2u
Not quite the right scenario, as PHAT suggests. It's not a idler's bet. It's a bet made on capital needed to keep your company running the very best level it can. It is humorous to keep insisting the Spurs will draft foreign and stash, because they always have before and their insistence has begun verging on the farcical. But the past does not always predict future behavior and the situation has changed so fundamentally that the Spurs cannot afford to not place at least one rookie on the team this year.
Well, according to draft express Al Thornton will probably go somewhere around #15. I wonder if the Spurs would try to move up and try to snag someone like him. I like him as the perfect understudy for Bruce Bowen.
If they move up, I think they'd be after Corey Brewer, Jeff Green, or Thaddeus Young first (if he goes in) before Al Thornton. Two first two have more polish and Young just has too much upside.
I like Thorntons size better. The guy to me seems like he'd do a better job guarding the bigger guys like Dirk. He also has the quickness to guard the more athletic type like Howard and Marion. Brewer is good, but I don't like the fact he's only around 190 lbs.
Moving up in the draft isn't that easy and you had to give a lot of things to move up from 28 to 15.
In 05, Portland has traded the 27th pick and the 35th pick to get the 22nd pick.
I expect the Spurs will have to do something similar:
#28+#35 for #22
or
#28+Scola for #22
The further from the lottery you get the more exponentially devalued the picks become. If Thaddeus Young comes out, it helps push another SF further down.
I'd much rather have Jeff Green/Corey Brewer/crosses fingers (#22) than Nick Fazekas (#28) + Bobby Brown (#35).
Or they could just stay put and get Jared Dudley fro BC, he does everything well except run fast
Jared Dudley has all of Fabricio Oberto's athleticism.
Dudley doesn't have the athleticism you would like to see, but this kid is all guts and heart. I think there's a realistic chance he could slip because his workouts will probably be poor, but he's a guy that could step in sooner than most other prospective long 3/small ball 4 types.Quote:
Originally Posted by mardigan
What do you think of Brendan Rush? The mocks I have seen have him and Fazekas right around where we are probably going to be drafting. I really like Rush, he could be very good for us. As far as Dudley, I love the kids heart, and he is a team player. He shoots well, boards well and passes well. Maybe he doesnt have the athletic ability of a Thornton, but for some reason he just seems like a Spurs type player. Senior, great teamate, great attitude, great work ethicQuote:
Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
fairly unathletic and smart DOES sound like a Spurs-type player
i'm not sure what they'd do with an Al Thornton type. make him play with big ankle weights or so.
I don't think Rudy Fernandez, Nick Fazekas, or Brandon Rush necessarily fit a "need" for the Spurs, but if Green/Thornton/etc. are off the board at the point the Spurs draft, I have to think they should take the best players available. Fernandez is a great athlete and lights-out shooter, Fazekas has the all-around offensive game to be a productive NBA player for a long time, and Rush has the right blend of ability & unselfishness to meld right in to a championship-calibur team. I like all three of them and wouldn't be dissapointed if we got one or even two of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by mardigan
On Dudley, I totally agree about him fitting the Spurs image. I think if he fell to the latter part of the second round, it would be good to take a flyer on him.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Body
I'm sure they'll bench James White every time he puts the ball on the floor. They'll say "Don't you know you're the next Bruce Bowen! Bowen don't drive to the basket! Bowen plays D and shoots from the corner...practice that!"
What do you guys think of Tucker? He is VERY undersized for the position, do you think he will be ok in the pros? Would he fit a Bowen type need?
Not a Bowen-need, I don't think, but he knows how to play and could be an excellent pro. I'll agree with PHAT - if we can't trade up and grab our SF (Green, Brewer, etc.), then take BPA = Best Player Available. Could be Tucker.
Do you know anything about the Italian sg Marco Belinelli? I have heard and read a lot of good things about him, and he is still young, what do you think about him Body?
I don't know much. Honestly, as little as I know, I imagine him to be a better Gordan Giricek. A gunner. I don't know if he can do much else, maybe he can.
Tucker's athleticism and reliance on slashing/inside game reminds me of Desmond Mason very much. Of course, you can teach a jumpshot and it's not like he's horrible from long-range. It wouldn't shock me if Tucker turned out to be a Desmond Mason type, but it also wouldn't shock me if he turned out to be a Josh Howard type.Quote:
Originally Posted by mardigan
I know you didn't ask me, but I'm mystified by this kid. Most mock drafts have him going ahead of Rudy Fernandez despite Rudy vastly outplaying Marco in the Euroleague this year. Marco is a bit younger and bigger than Rudy, but they have very similar games. Still, everything I've seen has him going ahead of Rudy....must be something there I don't see.Quote:
Originally Posted by mardigan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyPYO0L6_6UQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
I found this video of him, http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/prof...belinelli.html
and this is from nbadraft.net. He projects around our pick, looks pretty good
Your imput is always appreciated Tony. Here he is vs Slovenia, kid looks sick and he is only 20Quote:
Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r2WueJDD7c
Thanks...Have to check it when I get home. Computer Nazis don't like the YouTube.Quote:
Originally Posted by mardigan