Re: 5 for us and 5 for the Suns
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Originally Posted by Nashfan
What I meant about the Spurs getting older is your core is older. Diaw is 23, Amare is 24,(he will start eventually), Marion 29, Nash 32, Bell 29, Thomas 33 (I think). Our bench is still young and athletic. Barbosa is 23, Banks 24 (I think), James Jones 25, Jumaine Jones 26 ( I think) and then we have veterans like Marks and EP. I hardly call Elson a quality player or Vaughn for that matter. Now Butler could be good eventually if he loses weight but he is also inexperienced. Bowen is slipping and I think a lot faster than Nash plus he is useless on offense for the most part. Parker cannot contain Nash either and Nash is a much better point guard all the way around so no comparison. Dallas would not have won if Raja had not been injured or if Amare and Thomas had not been injured. About the seeding, if you are the best you have to go through the best so our path to the Western Conference Finals was not any easier than yours. If you were that good you would have beat the Mavericks plain and simple.
ATL is young too. Doesn't mean much. PHO plays gimmick basketball, fun to watch, but they'll be golfing some time in May. It's like the Run 'n' shoot offense in the NFL 10 years ago. Teams were piling up shitloads of points...in the regular season. No run and shoot team ever made it to the SB. PHO also made it to the WCF because of a seeding anomaly the first year of 3 divisions per conference that matched the top 2 teams in the West in the second round. That glitch has been fixed.
Re: 5 for us and 5 for the Suns
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Originally Posted by EssaySpur1001
Um, older? I believe Jackie Butler and Francisco Elson are younger than Rasho and Nazr, and Vaughn is younger than Van Exel.
Elson is older than both Rasho and Nazr.
Re: 5 for us and 5 for the Suns
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Originally Posted by EssaySpur1001
Eh, but I do agree that Elson runs the floor very well for a big.
better than any big in the league??
Re: 5 for us and 5 for the Suns
Zunni,
If the Spurs were that good last year they would have beat the Mavericks, regardless of the seeding. Also the Suns were second in defense last year until Kurt Thomas went down. We were only able to play seven players in the playoffs last year due to injury, so they did not do too bad for all the injuries sustained last year. I don't think that the Suns are a gimmick type basketball team. We play the best five players and space the floor well. With Amare eventually playing better and better we will have an inside threat also. So don't go counting us out quite yet.
Ploto seems to have a grasp of the game of basketball also. He is not so blinded by what the Spurs have done in the past to not see the problems they have also. The Suns are not a perfect team by no means but we are still contenders in the West.
Elbamba,
Has Parker prevented Nash from scoring? Did not think so. Also Sacramento was not a better team than the Lakers last year. Their record was very similar. The Clippers seemed to give the Spurs trouble last year if I remember correctly so they were not the pushover team of the past. So your argument does not hold water to me. If you are the best you beat the best and you could not beat the Mavericks either. So don't go blowing your horn quite yet. This season will tell how well each team did in the offseason with new players added and how well they fit it. Just don't count the Suns out like some on here do. We are not as bad as some think.
Re: 5 for us and 5 for the Suns
:lmao Steven A Smith just said that if Amare is healthy, guaranteed Suns will not only win the championship this season...but they'll win 2 within the next 5 or so years.
Re: 5 for us and 5 for the Suns
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Originally Posted by ploto
If the Suns hadn't been so beaten down, they could have knocked out Dallas in the WC Finals.
IF...
IF...
IF.....
IF those predictions held true there wouldn't be any entertainment value to ESPN :spin :toast :greedy
Re: 5 for us and 5 for the Suns
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Originally Posted by 1Parker1
:lmao Steven A Smith just said that if Amare is healthy, guaranteed Suns will not only win the championship this season...but they'll win 2 within the next 5 or so years.
has to be the even numbered years...WE got dibbs on the ODD ones!
Re: 5 for us and 5 for the Suns
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Originally Posted by 1Parker1
:lmao Steven A Smith just said that if Amare is healthy, guaranteed Suns will not only win the championship this season...but they'll win 2 within the next 5 or so years.
SAS doesn't know shit about shit. But he doesn't know that. He thinks he has some special connection to the "ballas". He will ALWAYS overrate a black urban player's capabilities and contributions, and ALWAYS underrate a white player or a non-urban black player or, especially, a non-American player. He is, to put it simply, biased, to the point where he has a big chip on his shoulder about it. He's also annoying, but that could be forgiven if he actually had something intelligent to contribute.
In this particular instance Amare is a perfect storm for SAS. Amare is a prototype of the kind of player SAS gets a hard-on for... comes from the hood, doesn't care about an all-around game, doesn't care about making his teammates better, over-inflated ego, self-centered, athletic, very stat-oriented, thinks he's doing great if he puts up a lot of points even if his team loses. Amare actually thinks that the Spurs couldn't stop him in the 2005 playoffs. He still doesn't get that the Spurs defensive scheme was designed to make the Suns make him the main offensive focus.
It makes me hope that Amare does come back and be the same player he was (although I am 90% sure that will not even come close to happening), because then I could watch SAS be humbled and ridiculed once again for his invalid prognostications.
Re: 5 for us and 5 for the Suns
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Originally Posted by ponky
OMG, stop already. 7000 fans? Wow, that's an accurate assessment. Besides, these are probably fans that tune in right around May and have no clue as to what goes on during the season except for the occasional news like when Kobe drops 81 or when Artest charges into the stands. These are the same lame fans who vote for injured stars and guys who haven't played much during the season when it comes time for All-Star voting. :rolleyes
Re: 5 for us and 5 for the Suns
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Originally Posted by ponky
OMG, stop already. 7000 fans? Wow, that's an accurate assessment. Besides, these are probably fans that tune in right around May and have no clue as to what goes on during the season except for the occasional news like when Kobe drops 81 or when Artest charges into the stands. These are the same lame fans who vote for injured stars and guys who haven't played much during the season when it comes time for All-Star voting. :rolleyes
What, you can not stand to have anyone picking someone other than your Spurs? Damn, grow up.
