Ellis: Spurs Ready to Tipoff the Season

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Originally Posted by mabber

Cuban is a marketing guy!!! It doesn't matter if you take him seriously or not. The guy might be a moron but he's a flat out genius in regards to business.

It's AMAZING that some of you haven't figured this out yet. He makes money in a variety of ways by drawing attention to his team. He doesn't care if it's negative or positive attention. A big time rivalry between the Mavs and the Spurs is only good for him. It's (Rivalry) really good for the league and the owners make money off things that are good for the leauge (Business 101) :greedy

I'm not defending some of his BS, just trying to explain it to some of you.

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Cuban's shit would only work in a superficial burg like Dallas.

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

Ummmmmm . . . you may want to rephrase that one a bit, lady.

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:lol :shootme Whatever...you got what I meant.

Cuban has devolved from hated rival to boring. Same ole same ole.

Once upon a time, Cuban was good for the Mavericks. When they were a second rate franchise in a relatively forgotten market he managed to drum up some interest with his energy, enthusiasm, and image as an owner who was just as much a sports fan as a businessman. Back when they were perenial flame outs under Nellie Cuban's antics still managed to keep them in the spotlight, even with most knew that they weren't going to the finals. But now they are a legit championship contender and look to be one for a few seasons to come. The NBA knows that there is a team in Dallas now, and when Cuban continues to run his mouth it doesn't generate interest, it generates ill will towards his investment. I know people who are diehard basketball fans who refuse to watch Mavs games because they know there's always going to be some segment about that stupid douchebag. When you start turning off consumers, that's bad business.

The novelty of his act has worn off. People are seeing through his smoke screen. He's not some renegade sports fan who bought his own franchise, he's just another bitchy billionaire. He's Bill Gates with a beer belly, a jersey, and (incredibly enough) a worse haircut.

Like I said before, this rivalry is finally good enough to stand on its own merits. But if he keeps this up it's not going to go in the history books with the greats. It's going to be remembered as a media circus where every victory for either team will be tarnished by his constant whining or classless shit talking.

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Originally Posted by nkdlunch

Cuban's stupid antics did not contribute in any way to more ppl watching NBA.

Don't pretend like he's purposely acting like a clown just because it's good for business.

BULLSHIT. truth is he cannot control his retarded ways when it comes to basketball. He's just a weird guy that let's his emotions get the best of him.

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Of course his antics contribute to more people tuning into the games the Mavs are playing. It's pathetic but very true.

I'm not saying that he's purposely acting like a clown. I'm saying that he certainly knows that when he says something negative about the Spurs & San Antonio it only helps the rivalry which is good for the league (which is good for the owners).

I agree that he cannot control himself when it comes to some aspects and, like I mentioned before, I'm not defending him. He's embarrassing at times.

Cuban's culture of whining and flat out idiocy was (imo) a contributing factor to one of the biggest chokejobs in the history of the Finals. He even managed to get Avery sucked up into all that crap, who I would say is normally a stand up guy. So if he wants to keep it up, it's fine by me.

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Originally Posted by Winnipeg_Spur

Cuban's culture of whining and flat out idiocy was (imo) a contributing factor to one of the biggest chokejobs in the history of the Finals. He even managed to get Avery sucked up into all that crap, who I would say is normally a stand up guy. So if he wants to keep it up, it's fine by me.

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This is what most Mav fans don't get. Their chokejob last year was a direct consequence of Mark Cuban. He instilled that whiny pussy attitude that lead to the collapse.

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

This is what most Mav fans don't get. Their chokejob last year was a direct consequence of Mark Cuban. He instilled that whiny pussy attitude that lead to the collapse.

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The refs treating Wade like a china doll was also the sort of thing he was lobbying for for years, too.

Yeah, but you know what? Even with that the Mavs had a 2-0 advantage and a 13 point lead with 6 minutes left in game 3. It didn't matter what the refs were doing; it mattered what was going on in their tiny Cuban-influenced minds.

In retrospect, we shouldn't have been surprised, as they were only one Manu brainfart away from doing the choke earlier. Damn, just think, if they had lost game 7, it would have destroyed Dallas forever. They would have had to tear it all down and start again.

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

This is what most Mav fans don't get. Their chokejob last year was a direct consequence of Mark Cuban. He instilled that whiny pussy attitude that lead to the collapse.

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I don't know what's more pathetic, Cuban's antics or Spur's fans complaining and whining about them as much as they do :lol

Cuban must get more talk/play in San Antonio than he does in Dallas.

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Originally Posted by spurs_fan_in_exile

The refs treating Wade like a china doll was also the sort of thing he was lobbying for for years, too.

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Yep, kinda came back to bite him in his ass.

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Originally Posted by mabber

I don't know what's more pathetic,

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I can agree with that.

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Originally Posted by mabber

I don't know what's more pathetic, Cuban's antics or Spur's fans complaining and whining about them as much as they do :lol

Cuban must get more talk/play in San Antonio than he does in Dallas.

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Spurs do whine i admit that but the league looks like they are really cracking down on it this year with all the T's they are calling. So i guess the Refs will now just make bad calls and not have to hear about it. Some of the Mavs players must really hate Cuban always running his mouth like this. The Mavs respect the Spurs and vice versa so you don't need this kind of bulletin board material to further fuel the rivalry. Cuban needs to shut up for once, lets his coaches coach and his players play.

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Originally Posted by mabber

Cuban must get more talk/play in San Antonio than he does in Dallas.

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What do you expect with everyone in D/FW drinking the Cuban Cool-aid?

Nice article by Ellis. Remember Dale Ellis? That guy could shoot the 3.

Almost as good as Louie Dampier. You know, Erick's dad?

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Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones

Nice article by Ellis. Remember Dale Ellis? That guy could shoot the 3.

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Dale Ellis was a baaaaaad man

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Originally Posted by CubanMustGo

What do you expect with everyone in D/FW drinking the Cuban Cool-aid?

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Nah, we've just learned to ignore him.

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Originally Posted by dbreiden83080

Spurs do whine i admit that but the league looks like they are really cracking down on it this year with all the T's they are calling. So i guess the Refs will now just make bad calls and not have to hear about it. Some of the Mavs players must really hate Cuban always running his mouth like this. The Mavs respect the Spurs and vice versa so you don't need this kind of bulletin board material to further fuel the rivalry. Cuban needs to shut up for once, lets his coaches coach and his players play.

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Hopefully, since Dirk called him out on his BS after the season he'll tone down. I won't be counting on that though.

It's funny that after Cuban's first full season as owner, the Spurs missed a chance at the Finals due to a flagrant foul by a Maverick, but Cuban complains about Spurs players being dirty? Please.

Cuban puts the Loser in Sore Loser.