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Re: Sixers, Nuggets reach agreement for Iverson
If you're Billy King and the best offer you're getting is Andre Miller's bad contract and two late first rounders, you sit on Iverson until a team gets desperate.
Actually, Kevin McHale is the one who came out of this the worst. It looks like all they had to give up was Randy Foye and salary fillers to get AI. How the hell don't you make that happen?
KG and AI make the T'Wolves a very good team. Foye might be good someday ... but by that time KG will be traded or out of his prime.
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Re: Sixers, Nuggets reach agreement for Iverson
:lol noone got owned
Dre is very underrated (see the game last night as an example). He is a great passer, can rebound and score in bunches when needed. His only knock is his D
he is a great pickup for Philly. They could use a solid veteran PG to help groom any rookie point guard they get next year,
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Re: Sixers, Nuggets reach agreement for Iverson
Damn, I have to admit Nuggets GM is very active ; Melo is suspended, so he did everything he could to fill the void
I just hope Melo doesn't care about his potential scoring title, now that AI is his teammate ; that would be a bad thing to screw the team up
Anfre Miller is an excellent addition to the Sixers
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Re: Sixers, Nuggets reach agreement for Iverson
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Originally Posted by dimsah
How's that?
They dropped the dead weight of Iversons contract.
I'd take Iverson at $17M over Miller at $9M any day of the week.
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Got a point gaurd who can distribute which is what they need
They don't need a distributing point guard. They don't have any scorers. Or post players. Or anything, really. Who is a distributing point guard going to pass it to?
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Denver's the one that got owned.
Billy King is that you?
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Re: Sixers, Nuggets reach agreement for Iverson
Not enough balls for AI and Melo to share. I don't expect Denver to be a title contender.
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Originally Posted by picnroll
So does Iverson play for the East in the all-star game?
Uh, he's in the West now, so no.
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Yeah, I don't think that anyone can look at the Miller part of the deal and think that it has anything to do with Philly trying to win right now. Miller was a fairly talented malcontent in Cleveland and in LA, and who knows what he'll do in Philadelphia. His contract had to be included in the deal for it to work -- the fact that Denver was willing to jettison him at this point speaks volumes about what they think of him -- and I suspect he'll either be moved again as soon as possible or that he'll just bide his time with a team that isn't going anywhere. His contract isn't favorable for much of anything other than facilitating a trade like this one.
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Re: Sixers, Nuggets reach agreement for Iverson
This is going to be interesting. Iverson has never played on a team with another superstar. Nuggets have a good team, let's see what Iverson can do with them.
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Re: Sixers, Nuggets reach agreement for Iverson
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Re: Sixers, Nuggets reach agreement for Iverson
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Originally Posted by AZLouis
Philly definitely clears some space by ridding of...
Iverson - $18.2 million (06-07), $20.1 (07-08), $21.9 (08-09)
Taking on
Miller - $8.6 (06-07)
Smith - $6.8 (06-07)
Is Miller's contract expiring this year, too? If so, that makes a little more sense.
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Re: Sixers, Nuggets reach agreement for Iverson
I think you gotta see who Philly drafts before you say they got hosed, but right now theres no way they got nearly what you excpected them to get out of this deal.
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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
Is Miller's contract expiring this year, too? If so, that makes a little more sense.
Nope.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/bas...s/nuggets.html
$8,733,333 - 2006
$9,366,666 - 2007
$9,999,999 - 2008
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Re: Sixers, Nuggets reach agreement for Iverson
I wonder how happy a camper JR Smith will be when everyone gets back from "vacation".
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Re: Sixers, Nuggets reach agreement for Iverson
AI being in the West fucking sucks though. He always kills the Spurs.
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Re: Sixers, Nuggets reach agreement for Iverson
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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
I think you gotta see who Philly drafts before you say they got hosed, but right now theres no way they got nearly what you excpected them to get out of this deal.
I think where Philly got a bad deal is in why couldn't a MIN or GSW deal be worked out (if the right pieces were on the table, those were much better trades).
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Originally Posted by Dirties Robbed Me
My question too. If its less than 2 more years I don't think this is a bad move. Miller will mildly help Webber.
Only if he's going to use Miller as a walker.
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It's a great trade for the Nuggets and does elevate them to contender status, just wait and see. But it's a short window of opportunity and it's also a shaky one due to Camby's fragility and AI's rapidly closing prime. Plus the inevitable AI Karl fallout...then again, GP loved George Karl, maybe AI will too.
Still, it isn't hard to see how excellently these pieces are going to fit together under Karl.
The Nuggets are exactly the type of team that can channel AI's talent into wins...and that's without Carmelo Anthony being taken into account.
Hell just having Camby on the same team with AI makes a potential title contender.
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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
I wonder how happy a camper JR Smith will be when everyone gets back from "vacation".
Enough to finagle a E-Will/Bonner for JR Smith deal, hopefully.
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Re: Sixers, Nuggets reach agreement for Iverson
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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
Yeah, I don't think that anyone can look at the Miller part of the deal and think that it has anything to do with Philly trying to win right now. Miller was a fairly talented malcontent in Cleveland and in LA, and who knows what he'll do in Philadelphia. His contract had to be included in the deal for it to work -- the fact that Denver was willing to jettison him at this point speaks volumes about what they think of him -- and I suspect he'll either be moved again as soon as possible or that he'll just bide his time with a team that isn't going anywhere. His contract isn't favorable for much of anything other than facilitating a trade like this one.
If Philly can turn around and trade Miller for some more picks and maybe a young project, then this trade will start making more sense. Right now they traded AI for a bad contract and two picks in the 20's.
Miller is already 30. He's gone from a bad defender into a horrible defender within the last two years.
If Philly wanted to win the Greg Oden sweepstakes, they should have traded him to a team that would only give them a dead expiring contract back and a couple first round picks. Miller is just good enough to lead them to a couple victories but not good enough to really make a playoff push.
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Re: Sixers, Nuggets reach agreement for Iverson
I wonder if AI will have any of the old Larry Brown sentiment playing for Karl.
One things for certain, this will be the most talent he's ever played with. So that excuse will be gone.