In Cali the vaccine is not required so insurance pays nothing….The 3 shots run approximately 500 dollars…Yet Viagra is covered by medical insurance…Even if the guy is in his 20’s…. :lol
There is something seriously wrong with the system….
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In Cali the vaccine is not required so insurance pays nothing….The 3 shots run approximately 500 dollars…Yet Viagra is covered by medical insurance…Even if the guy is in his 20’s…. :lol
There is something seriously wrong with the system….
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"Is the drug ready... or not??"
pimpo laying down the law
ploto, you come correct about not automatically believing the original news link boutons posted, but if you clicked on the FDA documents linked within, to see where the news page grabbed their own opinion from you'd realize what we're talking about here
You're right about cervical cancer meaning HPV is most likely the root cause
but you're wrong in assuming that means HPV means cancer will develop
the word "can" was in your little quote from the CDC, you realize that right
that, combined with the mandatory nature of the vaccination equals pure bull shit
noone in here is procancer, you realize that right
I do have to agree that this thread was the shining moment of the Mookie Crew's history. When elpimpo or thispego or whoever it was pulled out the mandatory preggo test card, that was some hardcore internets ownage.
That said, since a member of the Mookie Crew is always ready with a contrarian viewpoint in every thread in existence on SpursTalk, this thread seems more and more like the outlier. You throw a contrarian take at every thread, one is bound to stick.
The Mookie Crew's New Years resolution should be to up their contrarian to success ratio.
dude i agree with like 99% of everything you say in the spurs forum whatchyou smokin (yes i realize this is also a contrarian viewpoint)
you're like 1997 master p and I'm like 1995 silkk the shocker
always putting me down and refusing to accept my greatness
oh, that's right, timvp only listens to RADIO master p
LaMarcus has one of the lower contrarian to post ratios of the Mookie Crew. Him and Cannot_be_faded have low ratios.
But there are more than two corsos in this pregame show . . .
Might want to check that reading comprehension again. Nowhere did I ever say HPV means cancer will develop. Nowhere. I clearly stated that in many cases it does not. But in some cases it does-- it causes cancer and kills women.Quote:
Originally Posted by LaMarcus Bryant
It was added to the list because the vaccine is recommended by the ACIP of the CDC, ACOG, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and American Cancer Society
I can assure all the men in here that I know a whlole helluva lot more about what happens with my body than you do.
Hate the mandaory vaccine but do not lie about the disease.
Maybe you need to check your reading comprehension. Not one person here has said that HPV is not linked to cervical cancer. Everyone knows that, why are you trying to convince us? If you would read the whole thread you'd see this started with mandating the vaccine. But whether it's mandated or not the fact remains that Gardasil is WAY undertested. Yet so many want to be the first to get injected because it helps prevent what you believe to be a very real and likely illness. That line of reasoning is understandable because "if they created a vaccine for it and it's getting all this national attention, cervical cancer must be a huge threat and I must protect myself and my children!!!!!."
Merck has you right where they want you.
In 2006, in Texas, the only state I know to have mandated this drug there were
13,150 new cases of breast cancer,
9,510 new cases of colo/rectal cancer,
3,930 new cases of melanomas of the skin,
3,340 new cases of Non-Hodgkins Lymphomas,
2,350 new cases of Ovarian/Endo cancer,
2,250 new cases of Leukemia,
and a whopping 920 new cases of cervical cancer.
In fact, cervical cancer has the lowest incidence rate of all cancers in EVERY state.
Yes HPV causes Cancer
Yes Gardasil was found to prevent genital warts caused by HPV types 6 and 11 and prevent pre-cancer cervix cell changes caused by types 16 and 18.
BUT...
The vaccine protects against only 70% of cervical cancers and doesn't protect against all cancer-causing types of HPV, so even in women who have been vaccinated, cervical cancer is still possible.
Not to mention it is under tested, it can be extremely harmful if taken while pregnant, and is rendered ineffective if already infected with HPV.
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Originally Posted by thispego
Try again.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_
I am sick and tired of a bunch of condescending men in this thread who act as if I do not know my facts. I know all about the incidence of cervical cancer; I know all about the research on the disease; I have not been scared by Merck's campaign. I did not even get the vaccine but somehow you assume I have. I make informed and wise choices about what I do with my body and what I do for my child. Men in here have told me that somehow I am too stupid to understand the articles, but they are the ones who are clueless. You hate vaccines. We get it. You hate pharmaceutical companes, We get it. You hate the government telling you that you have to vaccinate your child. We get it (although you really don't have to). But do not patronize me nor talk down to me when I am a very intelligent and informed woman about healthcare and my body.Quote:
Originally Posted by thispego
boutons may or may not believe that HPV is linked to cervical cancer, i dont now because he constantly edits his posts. But regardless of what he believes, you're just qouting a qoute that he qouted. So no, still, no one here believes there is not a link between HPV and cervical cancer. Especially the people who you suggest should brush up on their reading comprehension. :rolleyesQuote:
Originally Posted by ploto
I never said you didnt understand an article, I said you missed the point of the thread. and yay for you for making informed and intelligent decisions with your female body :tu. seriouslyQuote:
Originally Posted by ploto
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Originally Posted by thispego
He bolded that part and tripled the font size. :wtf
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=419
Just cause you aren't protected 100% doesn't mean you shouldn't get the vaccine. Pertussis vaccine is 85% affected, Pneumococcal is 90% for the serotypes it covers, and any vaccine you look at is going to have a failure rate to a certain degree.
The rub lies in that if everyone gets vaccinated, the 10-30% that aren't immunized are protected by herd immunity. This is true for HPV as well. People will still get cervical cancer, but over time the incidence will fall precipitously.
after several edits. the font size got bigger each time...Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursWoman
and again, I dont know if bouton's actually believes that or if he's just pointing out a new finding to fire this debate up again. I'll let bouton's speak for himself and if he actually believes HPV does not have anything to do with cervical cancer then i will stand corrected.
the incidence rates were already falling before the mandate was issued.Quote:
Originally Posted by medstudent
they would have continued to fall while Gardasil spent a few more years in the testing phase, but fuck that, Merck was hemmorhaging money from Vioxx lawsuits, they need to make money NOW!
this guy knows what he's talking about.
i like the cut of his gib.
its my right to ascertain things!!
Is it SANchez?
rofl rofl