I must got confused,cause I can belive he actually was picked in the late 1st round sucking the way he does.
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I must got confused,cause I can belive he actually was picked in the late 1st round sucking the way he does.
1. Why the received wisdom that the FO passed on Josh Howard because they were going after Jason Kidd? How much does a #28 pick start at? Would this have ever been the difference between Kidd coming and Kidd running for the hills?
Isn't there the chance that Buford simply didn't want him?
2. As Manny and others blithely ignore, these discussions all revolve around WHAT THE SPURS WILL DO THIS YEAR. People really don't care what happened in the past, except as predictor for what may happen this year and next. Sure, it would be nice to have drafted Josh Howard (although Manny inexplicably doesn't think so), but the whole point of the conversation is the strategy of this team's efforts to acquire new talent. Howard constantly comes up because it is allegorical for how this team has completely overlooked domestic scouting.
I know these are very delicate concepts to think about, but it all revolves around 2007. What are we going to do? So Chump thinks we shouldn't be concerned about a #28 pick at all. So Manny thinks Oberto is better than Josh Howard. Those are your opinions, but they don't get in the way, for some of us, of the fact that this a deep draft and, with good scouting, the Spurs may manage to find good domestic players available. Will they pass again?
And from what I've seen, Ely > Oberto.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArgSpursFan
Tim, Elson, Ely, Oberto.
5 pts and 3 rbs in 2 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy Holly
Not saying he aint worst or better tham anybody,but where did you noticed that?
No. Quit lying aobut what I say, dipshit.Quote:
So Chump thinks we shouldn't be concerned about a #28 pick at all.
Aw, misrepresenting what people say is an art form in this forum.
Utah And Dallas Interested In Cabezas.
Anyone know much about this guy? I don't know anything about him other than he plays for Spain.
He plays for Unicaja in the Spanish League. They are currently playing in the Euroleague Top 16 tournament and so far they are 2-1. In 16 games in Euroleague competition this year, he's averaged 9 points and 2 assists in 27 minutes per game. In this tournament, in 3 games, he's averaging about 7 and 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by mabber
Here's his stats for Spanish League games this year:
http://www.unicajabaloncesto.com/estadisticas.php
Here's his stats for Euroleague games this year:
http://www.euroleague.net/main/teams...s?clubcode=mal
Thanks...much appreciated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
You are welcome. Perhaps someone here who has watched more Spanish League or Euroleague games can tell you more. By stats, he doesn't seem special.
The spurs should try to get Prigioni from Tau, not Scola
Bruno gave me his take on him and he doesn't seem like a player that either Utah or Dallas would want. Maybe the story is BS. I got it off RealGM daily email.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/9216/180
Scola sets Euroleague's all-time scoring mark
History was made in Vitoria on Wednesday, as Luis Scola of Tau Ceramica climbed into first place in Euroleague Basketball's all-time scoring list. Scola (206, 26) entered Tau's home game against Maccabi with 1,973 points in 138 games and needed just 7 to overcome Marcus Brown, who scored 1,979 points since the competition started in year 2000. Scola scored 8 points in the game's first 5 minutes, breaking the record on a short jump shot, one of his trademarks. He finished with 25 points as Tau won 94-73, clinching a Quarterfinal Playoffs berth and first place in Group D, which comes with homecourt advantage in the next round. Scola's scoring against Maccabi left him with 1,998 points, which means his next basket will allow him to reach the 2,000-point mark sooner than any other Euroleague player. Scola, a reigning Olympic champion and one of the best power forwards in the world, signed with Tau in January 1998 but joined the team before the start of the 1999-00 season. He has helped Tau to win a Spanish League title in 2002, as well as lifting three Spanish King'c Cup trophies in 2002, 2004, 2006. He also helped Tau reach Euroleague finals in 2001 and 2005, as well as adding a Final Four appearance last season. Scola won the 2004 Olympic Games with Argentina and also helped his national team to make it to the 2002 World Championships title game.
Pau won Today. Ian had his best game of the euroleague tournament i would say.
17mn 5points 6 defensive rebounds and just 3 fouls.
1/3 fg and 3/4FT
he has been hampered by ankles a good part of the season but it seems there might be some light at .....
Nocioni is a free agent after this season. Just sign him and we have 3 Argentines and another championship. Then use the other guys to buy down in the draft.
It's not that simple. Nocioni will be a restricted free agent and Bulls won't let him go.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnK
Nocioni with a Spurs jersey is a pipe dream.
:tuQuote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
The Spurs could offer Nocioni a maxed out MLE contract and the Bulls would happily match it.
Would you support the Spurs going after Nocioni and trying though?
Or if they avoid that, and go elsewhere, will there be critique of them not even "trying"
Spurs should try to go after Nocioni without counting on him and without wasting too much time on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
The only way to get Nocioni is to do a S&T with Chicago because he will cost more than the MLE. You cna imagine the following scenario :
- Chicago doesn't want to spend money on Nocioni because they still have 2 tweener SF/PF (Deng and Thomas) and because they will spend a lot of money on Deng and Gordon extensions.
- No teams under the cap is interesting in Nocioni and/or Nocioni hasn't found a team under the cap he likes : they are few teams under the cap this summer and they aren't contender.
- Nocioni wants to sign with Spurs because they are a contender and because of Manu.
- Spurs are ready to give Nocioni a long term contract : screw 2008, screw 2010, Holt likes to spend money. ;)
- Bulls like what Spurs offer. Chicago was interested in Scola in the past, they really need a low post scorer and the good experience with Nocioni could let them think that Scola will help them a lot.
- No other teams that Nocioni likes has a better offer than Spurs' one. It's quite unlikely but you can always imagine that few teams need a SF/PF (SF is the most crowded spot in nba) and that Nocion really push to do a S&T with SA.
There are no stage that is really crazy but the problem is that each stage should be true and that makes this scenario higly unlikely.