Spurs - For Real Or Not?

And plus, I don't know why you guys put Phoenix up so high...Look at this:

Lost 106-114 to Lakers, Lost 104-108 to Utah, Lost 106-111 to San Antonio, Lost 112-119 to Dallas, Lost 117-120 to Utah, Lost 99-101 to Dallas, Lost 105-108 to Utah.

They won vs San Antonio once. So that makes them 1-7 vs Dallas, SA, Utah, and Lakers.

Spurs haven't done all that great vs Dallas, Phoenix, Utah, and LA, but have a better winning percentage vs those than Phoenix does.

Dallas and Spurs are still the best two teams in the NBA. Phoenix is only 4 1/2 games ahead of SA, with their schedule being tougher, while SA's is getting easier. Don't be surprised if SA finishes ahead of Phoenix.

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Originally Posted by aaronstampler

If Houston wasn't playing at Denver tonight and was resting instead I'd be less confident, but because their schedule is what it is and because we're probably going to land in Houston before they do, I like our chances a lot.

(And it helps that the big Chinese feller is out.)

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He may play a few minutes on saturday. :elephant

10% chance is my guess, but friday's medical eval. will decide.

Spurs are for real and it will be a tough game for the roxs.

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Originally Posted by dbreiden83080

Spurs are so battle tested and to me Manu is the key to that series. You know he feels like shit over that foul in game 7 last year and his postseason overall was not good. If we get to play Dallas Manu will be really determined to make amends for that and he could be the difference.

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Really? Maybe you should check the box scores again. Manu averaged 21 a game against Dallas in only 13 shots. He led the team in +/- for both the Sacramento and Dallas series. I really don't think he was the problem. All you remember is one play and say "his postseason wasn't good."

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Originally Posted by aaronstampler

Really? Maybe you should check the box scores again. Manu averaged 21 a game against Dallas in only 13 shots. He led the team in +/- for both the Sacramento and Dallas series. I really don't think he was the problem. All you remember is one play and say "his postseason wasn't good."

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Manu sucked against the Kings last year in the playoffs he was more about crucial TO than big time playmaking and you know it. He played pretty well against the Mavs by the numbers but Timmy's dominance is the main reason the Spurs pushed that to 7 games, Manu had very little to do with it. His dumb ass decision making down the stretch killed the Spurs in the playoffs last year.

if it wasn't for manu, we woulda lost game 7 by 20 in regulation

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Originally Posted by Amuseddaysleeper

if it wasn't for manu, we woulda lost game 7 by 20 in regulation

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If not for Timmy game 7 never would have taken place. I also seem to remember a 40 plus pt game out of him in game 7.

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Originally Posted by dbreiden83080

Manu sucked against the Kings last year in the playoffs he was more about crucial TO than big time playmaking and you know it. He played pretty well against the Mavs by the numbers but Timmy's dominance is the main reason the Spurs pushed that to 7 games, Manu had very little to do with it. His dumb ass decision making down the stretch killed the Spurs in the playoffs last year.

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Wrong. he won games in our favor in games 1, 5, and 6. By KEY PLAYS. His D against Stackhouse's three with few seconds left. His key steals in game 5. Otherwise, it was a toss up who knows if we would have gotten swept. Tim and Dirk canceled each other out.
All the games excluding games 2 and 7 were dependent on who made the least mistakes. And decided within 5 points. Manu was the X-factor in the Spurs being on top. With his crunch time plays.

Manu had a LOT to do with the Series going 7 games, despite how awful his mental game was. If anything he was trying too hard not to lose. And we got the bad end. For every 3 key plays, he had to commit his patented TO in game 7 instead of game 1! :pctoss

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Originally Posted by ManuTim_best of Fwiendz

Wrong. he won games in our favor in games 1, 5, and 6. By KEY PLAYS. His D against Stackhouse's three with few seconds left. His key steals. Otherwise, it was a toss up. Tim and Dirk canceled each other out.
All the games excluding games 2 and 7 were dependent on who made the least mistakes.

Manu had a LOT to do with the Series going 7 games, despite how awful his mental game was.

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Manu was not at his best in the playoffs last year and he took a lot of flack, lets not act like i am the only one saying it. I love the guy but we got the best of Manu in the 05 playoffs and there is no doubt Spurs do not win the title if he does not play like he did. However last year you got the flip side of the coin. He did not make the right decisions when it mattered most and it hurt the Spurs in big spots. My main point was i think he is going to turn it around and be awesome in the playoffs this year.

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Originally Posted by dbreiden83080

Manu was not at his best in the playoffs last year and he took a lot of flack, lets not act like i am the only one saying it. I love the guy but we got the best of Manu in the 05 playoffs and there is no doubt Spurs do not win the title if he does not play like he did. However last year you got the flip side of the coin. He did not make the right decisions when it mattered most and it hurt the Spurs in big spots. My main point was i think he is going to turn it around and be awesome in the playoffs this year.

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Ah ok, gotcha.

Yeah Manu does mention his confidence a lot. Last year he showed he was still human.

I'll take a re-juvinated manu this year. I will admit that last year he looked worn out. Probabily from the Super-Manu Tour~ala~2005 Championship.

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Originally Posted by remingtonbo2001

I'll take a re-juvinated manu this year. I will admit that last year he looked worn out. Probabily from the Super-Manu Tour~ala~2005 Championship.

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Agreed Manu is owning the 2nd half so far i think he will own the postseason as well he is motivated to do so BIG TIME.

There wouldn't have been a Game 7 if not for Manu in Game 6 genius. He pretty much saved the team when Tony played like total ass.

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Originally Posted by aaronstampler

There wouldn't have been a Game 7 if not for Manu in Game 6 genius. He pretty much saved the team when Tony played like total ass.

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How come when Tony is injured he "played like total ass" and when Manu is injured it's because he plays so hard. :lol

Give Tony a break, he was barely walking in Mavs series and averaged 20 ppg.

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Originally Posted by dbreiden83080

Manu sucked against the Kings last year in the playoffs he was more about crucial TO than big time playmaking and you know it. He played pretty well against the Mavs by the numbers but Timmy's dominance is the main reason the Spurs pushed that to 7 games, Manu had very little to do with it. His dumb ass decision making down the stretch killed the Spurs in the playoffs last year.

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He sucked? Go look up the box scores for games 2 and 5. Games 1 and 4 were blowouts so his stats didn't matter. The only games he played poorly were 3 and 4.

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

How come when Tony is injured he "played like total ass" and when Manu is injured it's because he plays so hard. :lol

Give Tony a break, he was barely walking in Mavs series and averaged 20 ppg.

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We're not gonna beat them if our starting pg has a 1:1 A/TO ratio this year Kori.

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Originally Posted by aaronstampler

We're not gonna beat them if our starting pg has a 1:1 A/TO ratio this year Kori.

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So you want to just ignore he was injured?

Cool.

He was told to shoot 20-25 times in the playoffs last year by Pop. If you have a problem with him not passing enough, take it up with the coach. He carried the Spurs almost all last season and got pretty hurt at the end of the Sac/beginning of Mavs series. And he still managed to score 20 a game.

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

So you want to just ignore he was injured?

Cool.

He was told to shoot 20-25 times in the playoffs last year by Pop. If you have a problem with him not passing enough, take it up with the coach. He carried the Spurs almost all last season and got pretty hurt at the end of the Sac/beginning of Mavs series. And he still managed to score 20 a game.

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Just to add to this point, 20 a game in a seven game series is outstanding not only considering his injuries, but also considering how well Duncan was going and how many shots he was taking.

Manu is on baby!I predict we win 80% of the reminding games of the reg season.

the spurs are beating teams they would've lost to a month ago. so that's a great sign.

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Originally Posted by dbreiden83080

Manu was not at his best in the playoffs last year and he took a lot of flack, lets not act like i am the only one saying it. I love the guy but we got the best of Manu in the 05 playoffs and there is no doubt Spurs do not win the title if he does not play like he did. However last year you got the flip side of the coin. He did not make the right decisions when it mattered most and it hurt the Spurs in big spots. My main point was i think he is going to turn it around and be awesome in the playoffs this year.

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Well,I don´t see nobody else saying it.
But that´s ok,I belive you didn´t bitch about Manu in the 2005 playoffs,So you should be more thanksfull and stay behind your spurs players, On the good times and and bad times.Otherwise you´d be acting like a Mavs fan.

I'm not convinced that the Rockets are consistent enough in all departments to provide a great test for our guys. They certainly have the motivation, having to endure all our playoff successes and they also put up with having to read when the Houston media write about their love of Ginobili and how they cover him so well.
If we watch carefully, we'll see our guys stick to their formula no matter what.
Pacing.
And putting up with the whistle.
And not being so complacent at beginnings of periods, quick intensity.
And finding the hot hand so rhythm can be firmly established.
And MFin playing good D when he ain't shooting so well, (that he's learned from Manu!)

I will asume that we are talking from the game just after the 1-4 stretch at the beginning of last month.

Turning the corner as in playing well, absolutly.

As already stated, they are not playing the best of compitition. Five of the seven games (Sense the bad stretch) have been against Eastern teams. I did a thing on a different forum about the Pistons about a week ago where I swaped the winning % for each conferance and moved the team to the West and calculated what their record would be if playing a Western schedule (Using just the win% for each conferance) they ended up at 14 1/2 games behind the Mavs, roughly the same possision as the Lakers at the time.

When the best team in the East wins at around 54% of their games (If they were in the west) then just how good could the rest of the East be?

That being said ..lets look at the games.

The Pistons were a BtB and you won in Detriot by 9 ... Thats a good win.
The win vs the Raptors is also a good win.

All the others are vs teams that are currently seeded 7th or lower, with of course Seatle and Atlanta with no more then 45 wins between the two.

All of these teams are supposed to wins with the Detroit game being the toughest. before the season started (with optimism a plenty in the air), all of those teams would be concidered a win. As a matter of fact most of the month of March would have been concidered a win (Only games vs Pistons, Rockets and Jazz are "real threats")

Its getting late in the season and the schedule makers are not helping the matter of figuring this question out .. The Final month of the season would be the test, but as already posted, the Mavs game may come too late as team rest before the real games begin.

I'm going to say that they have turned the corner in that they are playing to the Spurs of last years level ... That is that they are beating teams that they are supposed to.

Will that help vs the top teams in the West .... Personaly, I don't think so. With no moves through the trade deadline the Spurs are still the Spurs and the Mavs are still the Mavs.

I don't like their chances vs the Mavs .... everyone else ... They are looking good.

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Originally Posted by Dalhoop

I will asume that we are talking from the game just after the 1-4 stretch at the beginning of last month.

Turning the corner as in playing well, absolutly.

As already stated, they are not playing the best of compitition. Five of the seven games (Sense the bad stretch) have been against Eastern teams. I did a thing on a different forum about the Pistons about a week ago where I swaped the winning % for each conferance and moved the team to the West and calculated what their record would be if playing a Western schedule (Using just the win% for each conferance) they ended up at 14 1/2 games behind the Mavs, roughly the same possision as the Lakers at the time.

When the best team in the East wins at around 54% of their games (If they were in the west) then just how good could the rest of the East be?

That being said ..lets look at the games.

The Pistons were a BtB and you won in Detriot by 9 ... Thats a good win.
The win vs the Raptors is also a good win.

All the others are vs teams that are currently seeded 7th or lower, with of course Seatle and Atlanta with no more then 45 wins between the two.

All of these teams are supposed to wins with the Detroit game being the toughest. before the season started (with optimism a plenty in the air), all of those teams would be concidered a win. As a matter of fact most of the month of March would have been concidered a win (Only games vs Pistons, Rockets and Jazz are "real threats")

Its getting late in the season and the schedule makers are not helping the matter of figuring this question out .. The Final month of the season would be the test, but as already posted, the Mavs game may come too late as team rest before the real games begin.

I'm going to say that they have turned the corner in that they are playing to the Spurs of last years level ... That is that they are beating teams that they are supposed to.

Will that help vs the top teams in the West .... Personaly, I don't think so. With no moves through the trade deadline the Spurs are still the Spurs and the Mavs are still the Mavs.

I don't like their chances vs the Mavs .... everyone else ... They are looking good.

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Yes, the East has had many years of producing less than par teams, especially that motley crew called the Heat I mean my god, what ever did they achieve and whoever did they beat?

I love the Mavs bashing, but what does it have to do with this thread? The Spurs have not played the Heat during their stretch and if they did, they would be grouped into the "7th seed or lower" group.

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Originally Posted by Dalhoop

With no moves through the trade deadline the Spurs are still the Spurs and the Mavs are still the Mavs.

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oh yeah, the spurs are still the spurs. you say that like they suck. fucking retarded.

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Originally Posted by Dalhoop

I don't like their chances vs the Mavs .... everyone else ... They are looking good.

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as long as the spurs don't play small ball, they will beat the mavs.