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oh yeah, the spurs are still the spurs. you say that like they suck. fucking retarded.
How do you know how I typed it? (I use hunt&pick method)
What I meant by that was exactly what it said. The Spurs are 2-1 vs the Mavs this year after lossing to them in the playoffs last year.
If the Spurs didn't improve from last year, or the Mavs didn't slide from last year ... I don't like the Spurs chances .... I do like them against other teams though.
Aren't we generalizing here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalhoop
East is weak.
Mav's record's good at this point so they're superior.
Spurs record's suspect because they garnered current record against Eastern teams.
West>East
Mavs>rest
So, as things are right now, with current trends, Mav's are the best?
Not currently.
Please stay realtime and update game by game.
Things are changing at the speedOfManu.
Keep one ear to the ground and your nose out of the air.
everything had to go right for the mavs to barely scrape by the spurs last year. so to say the spurs don't have a great chance against the mavs is dumb. and to assume that the spurs didn't improve since last year is dumb. personnel-wise, the spurs match up much better against the mavs than they did last year. fuck the regular season records, they don't mean anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalhoop
W-O-R-D!Quote:
Originally Posted by itzsoweezee
The point is, we are not as good as we were last year(even a homer should admit that), by a wide margin, Dallas is 20% better than last year, Dallas beat us last year, hence Dallas will beat us again this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
That seems like good logic to me, yes?
I am just being realistic, it is not that I do not like the Spurs any more, but any moron can see the handwriting is on the wall. Dallas is the Bulls of the 90s, as far as regular season dominance, and they have already proven that the own the West(last year), so if they can beat Detroit in Finals, then they will be one of the greatest teams in the history of the NBA for this one year....as far as record that is.
Yeah, I know you're genuinely trying to break it down in good fashion if you're a true fan but current trends belie what you're espousing but unless you're CURRENTLY inside that vortex that the Spurs, Manu and crew are calling up on demand every game now; can't you see the special thing that's being created right in front of your eyes? Those special teamsports traits really aren't fully appreciated until championship celebration time, in retrospect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimcs50
on paper this spurs team is less good than last year but on the court and against the mavs i think they are much better. They lack nazr and rasho's d in the middle but elson is far more valuable for us against the mavs also tim is healthy manu is healthy and tony is better, barry also seems better than last year. Now it's true the mavs are much better than last year but don't write off the spurs so quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimcs50
Please do not get my hopes up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clutch20
I had to have 6 months of therapy after last years' playoff failure, a season that was so full of hope and promise. Pop ruined the Spurs' chances last year with his insane matchups, and I was bitter for 10 months(still am). I just can not forgive Pop, and now that Dallas has used that gift of a series win as a spring board this year to greater heights, it really pisses me off even more.
The only thing that wil pull me out of this funk is a Dallas injury to Dirk right before we play them in the playoffs, or a boneheaded move by AJ(like Pops), to tip the balance over to the Spurs in our series with them....then and only then, will I become the glass is half full, goofy homer that I hd been the last 30 years prior.
Against Mavs : this year Spurs > last year Spurs
Mavs are too playing at an higher level, the re-matchup (if there is one because Suns, Rockets and others cna be really good) should be fun to watch.
And I was there with you Jimcs50.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimcs50
I think Pop knows what he did, too.
But please, no injury to Dirk cause I want to see him deal with Elson.
Avery's whims, well there's no telling.
Go there with us man, risk it, it in our black and silver genes.
No offense but some of you should really get a life...
All is good in ST land...
until they lose to the Rockettes tonight... :D
Hey!Quote:
Originally Posted by LEONARD
GO MAVS!
just a little word i find out for our dear mavs fans ( beside i really like the points they are making here no joke)....the strong one doesn't win , the one that wins is strong
I agree with Dalhoop
I don't think he is dissing the Spurs, but yes, the Mavs are still another level above of us
But anything can happen come playoff time, but you can't really blame him (or anyone else) favoring the Mavs over the Spurs this year
Dallas is the team to beat....they have lost only 9 games and 4 of them came from the first games
I dont care if we're real or not, Im still real happy by these wins.
I believe the Heat won the NBA Finals in 6 games last year vs the Dallas Mavericks. NBA Finals' don't lie. The Heat's real talent has been masked by injuries this year to Wade and Shaq.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clutch20
Aren't we generalizing here?
Not me.
East is weak.
I think you may be generalizing (I gave credit for the wins vs the Pistons and Raptors)
Mav's record's good at this point so they're superior.
The Mavs beat them last year, and have done so this year ... How they do against other teams is moot.
Spurs record's suspect because they garnered current record against Eastern teams.
Their record is not suspect. Thier current streak of wins has been against mostly Eastern teams .... Two good teams, three lesser Eastern teams. How they play against the Rockets well tell how "Suspect"
West>East
Although another generality .. It mostly bares out.
Mavs>rest
you said it, not me.
So, as things are right now, with current trends, Mav's are the best?
If this is a question to me, I would answer yes. They have lost two games in almost three months. You would be hard pressed to fine a team on more of a roll.
Not currently.
I would like to see some stats that would show otherwise ... Two losses in three months (and current fifteen in a row) is hard to beat.
Please stay realtime and update game by game.
As I said, fifteen in a row is hard to top.
Things are changing at the speedOfManu.
I think that the change has more to do with the Spurs defensive play, but to each his own.
Keep one ear to the ground and your nose out of the air.
Okay :)
I think we are for real, just still not good enough to beat Dallas in the playoffs. We can make it to the WCF's if we stay in the 2 or 3 seed, but that's about as far as we will go. We lack good coaching and frontcourt depth, and that's enough to cause us to lose to Dallas.
What I've noticed is that every team in the league gets ramped up to play the Spurs. I think the teams respect the Spurs as the team to beat.
Dallas, Phoenix, Utah, LA, none of the East teams, including the Heat and Pistons get that kind of respect.
I think this makes the regular season for San Antonio a little tough to gauge. They rarely have a night where they don't have a target on their back. Since the Spurs tend to sleep through stretches of the regular season and lose games they shouldn't I'd say you can't really judge regular season results at all until the Spurs are putting forth real effort...which they're starting to do now.
They realistically could win 60 this year, which is amazing considering how they played from around games 25 through 51.
All that being said I think Dallas is going to be tough to overcome this year. There's not a weak spot in their lineup and they matchup with the Spurs extremely well. Anything can happen in the playoffs, however, and I'll never rule the Spurs out if Duncan, Manu and Tony are all healthy and playing well.
"Dallas, Phoenix,"
There's no reason that in this season, or in the preceding 2 seasons, that Mavs and Suns wouldn't get "ramped up" for any less than the Spurs. Every crappy team would like to knock off any top 4 team.
The Spurs have obviously "ramped up" themselves in current W streak, it even peaked out a little bit in the close losses in the RRT.
Which for me is to say they have been capable of doing it all year, they just refused to play well.
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Originally Posted by boutons_
Every team still measures themselves against the Spurs. That's what still having your core players from multiple championship teams will do for you.
But that was a nice job restating what I said.
The Spurs before they turned the corner < the mavs.
the spurs now? equal with the mavs. The mavs have been on a tear all season but now, the spurs are back on the mavs level.
That sounds better now.Quote:
Originally Posted by z0sa