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Re: Mavs evoke comparisons with all-time greats
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Originally Posted by pking
I don't think 36 minutes a game is playing super high minutes. Yes, higher than what the spurs starters are playing, but it's not like he's got them out there for 40+ minutes each.
True, the Mavs starters aren't putting in the sort of minutes the Suns starters are, but I don't see the point in continuing to play Josh, Dirk, and Terry each 35+ minutes on average when nobody in the league is even close to catching the Mavs at this point.
Last night is a great example: Josh = 42 min, Dirk = 37, Terry = 41.
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I see where youre coming from but I don't necessarily agree with your logic. I think it's too early to say 'OK I'll sit my good players and it doesn't matter if we win tonight or not'
Terry doesn't typically play that many minutes, but he was amazing last night...14 or 15 assists and he couldn't miss. JHo's 25...:lol 37 minutes in a tight game like that for Dirk is not that bad, IMO.
Orlando was tough last night, man. We didn't pull away until the last 1:30. They could've easily won the game.
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Re: Mavs evoke comparisons with all-time greats
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Originally Posted by pking
I don't think 36 minutes a game is playing super high minutes. Yes, higher than what the spurs starters are playing, but it's not like he's got them out there for 40+ minutes each.
3 or 5 extra minutes every game over the season add up. Since the most common injury for an NBA player is caused by overuse, well guess what? Injuries do not have to be as obvious as a dislocated shoulder to blow a shot at the title. Pummeling a team you have a double digit lead on by keeping your starters playing the majority of a 4th quarter is just stupid, the mental edge it gives the winning team is not worth the risk of injury.
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TD is a Career 37.6 MPG guy. He played 39.3 MPG when they won it all in '99 and '03. The minutes have been down the past couple of years, yes..but I really think you guys trying to act like 36-37 minutes per game is over the top is just sort of reaching.
I'm not one of the delusional Mavs fans that think it's an easy road to the trophy for the Mavs this year. They're having a great regular season so far.
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Originally Posted by bonesinaz
Since the most common injury for an NBA player is caused by overuse...
tell that to Xylus. he thinks that injuries are not related to fatigue on the court.
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Re: Mavs evoke comparisons with all-time greats
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Originally Posted by pking
TD is a Career 37.6 MPG guy. He played 39.3 MPG when they won it all in '99 and '03. The minutes have been down the past couple of years, yes..but I really think you guys trying to act like 36-37 minutes per game is over the top is just sort of reaching.
Right, but one of the reasons TD has such a high career avg. in min/per game is that, unlike most rookies, he was expected to start making major contributions right away and did not gradually work his way into the starting rotation during his first few years.
And yes, TD put in lots of minutes during those championship runs, but that may also be part of the reason the Spurs did not repeat in 2000 and 2004 (not the only factor, of course, but probably part of the equation).
I'm not trying to take anything away from the Mavs, but Avery's judgment seems dubious on this. I guess we'll see for sure come June.
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Originally Posted by ThomasGranger
If you look a little more closely you might notice that my post was a response to the Mavs/Bulls comparison, not Mavs/Spurs. I was alluding to Jordan, not Duncan.
Ooooooh. That's why I didn't understand the post.
*goes off to sulk in a corner*
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Re: Mavs evoke comparisons with all-time greats
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Originally Posted by stretch
to add to it, they played in a weak Eastern Conference. Put the Mavs in the East, and they would definitely win over 70 games.
So would San Antonio and Phoenix...
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Originally Posted by J.T.
So would San Antonio and Phoenix...
I agree with that, but Spurs < Mavs > Suns. I think the point is the Mavs have a hell of a pace going in the western conference, better than the spurs and the suns right now. Comparing that to Detroit, who did the same thing last year is apples and oranges.
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Originally Posted by J.T.
So would San Antonio and Phoenix...
not so sure about that. San Antonio's record vs the East is 17-8. they would be the #1 seed but they wouldnt win 70 games cmon now
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Originally Posted by exstatic
Weren't the Pistons on a 70+ win pace about this time last year?
Yes, and most people were ready to crown them NBA champs last year, too.
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Re: Mavs evoke comparisons with all-time greats
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Originally Posted by CPIM
Ducks!! Get real, everybody has a hole in order to survive.
:lol I had to read that twice to make sure I was seeing it correctly!
The Mavs are playing like they want to be the champs, and they are certainly deep enough and well-coached enough.
But...somewhere deep inside they still fear the Spurs. You can see it when they go against each other. A Spurs-Mavs series will be epic if these two get to meet.
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If you want to crown their asses, go ahead and crown their asses.
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I don't know...
well, okay, I know the mavs are a great team and if I had to put money on any one team to win it all RIGHT NOW, I would have to pick the mavs. BUT, with that said, for some reason, I can't picture them as an "all-time great" team...the title just doesn't seem to fit. And even IF they do earn that title someday, I think I'd see them as a "manufactured" all-time great team or a Pseudo-all time great as opposed to a "pure" all-time great team (like Celtics, Magic and Company's [a great "company" at that] Lakers, or MJ's Bulls). I don't know...maybe it's because those other teams have won a championship at least and it's hard to justify this talk just yet!??!
haha...but seriously...besides that, I think it has a lot to do with Mark Cuban...geez...I hate that guy. That guy just cheapens everything about the Mavs a bit for me. Yeah, I think that's it.
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Re: Mavs evoke comparisons with all-time greats
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Originally Posted by J.T.
So would San Antonio and Phoenix...
Phoenix definitely. I would normally say SA too, but the way they have played this year, im not too sure if they would hit 70.
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spurs fans who talk about mavs starters playing heavy minutes should do some research. i already posted the spurs' and mavs' starter minutes along with the next 2-3 guys off the bench...if you found this out before talking about how the mavs are playing heavy minutes you'd see that it's basically a wash when compared to the spurs.
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Re: Mavs evoke comparisons with all-time greats
they are all-time great at choking and will prove it this playoffs.
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Re: Mavs evoke comparisons with all-time greats
crown em, crown those motherfuckers
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Like many have said, if their was a trophy for the rugulor season no doubt the Mavs would have it, they are a great team with good leaders (except Dirk) and great coaching. We shall see if that equates to a championship
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Re: Mavs evoke comparisons with all-time greats
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
"3 RINGS - YOU HAVE ZERO" :lol
:owned :owned :owned
That's right Kori!!!
You tell them!!!!!
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DISCLAIMER:
The above comment is a paraphrased quote by Kori Ellis
Kori Ellis should not be held responsible for Taco taking her quote out of context. :wakeup
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Re: Mavs evoke comparisons with all-time greats
Pussy.
Should have left out the disclaimer.
:lol
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Re: Mavs evoke comparisons with all-time greats
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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear
Pussy.
Should have left out the disclaimer.
:lol
shit no!!
she would have kicked my ass!!!!:lol
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Re: Mavs evoke comparisons with all-time greats
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Originally Posted by stretch
yea, but those Pistons werent as deep as these Mavs, and didnt have NEAR the coaching that these Mavs had.
Avery>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Flip
to add to it, they played in a weak Eastern Conference. Put the Mavs in the East, and they would definitely win over 70 games.
True but they were also 47-9 at one point last year and spanked us twice during the season both at home and on the road. They just totally fell apart come playoff time.