Ok, who was the "main cog" with the Pistons? before you say it was a team effert ... Make sure you understand that the Spurs are the definition of "Team"
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Ok, who was the "main cog" with the Pistons? before you say it was a team effert ... Make sure you understand that the Spurs are the definition of "Team"
KG doesnt do much to make his teammates better. :lol
It was a Larry Brown team. If you don't understand that, it cannot be explained to you. Seven guys averaged 9.5 points or better. Spurs have never had anything remotely like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalhoop
I think that anyone who's watched the NBA consistently over the past decade knows that Duncan (along with Shaq, for that matter) makes his teammates better. And while I don't want to get into an argument about who makes their teammates "more better" (I can't believe I wrote that), I think it's noteworthy that Duncan led the Spurs to the 2003 championship without one other All-Star on the team. (And yes, Ginobili and Robinson were on that team, but Robinson was in his twilight and Ginobili had yet to hit his stride---see their stats and mpg.) I take this as evidence that he's raising the overall level of his teammates' play.
Don't most coaches make the players around them better? So when Billups passed to Hamilton for the open jumper, it was Brown that made it happen?Quote:
And the Spurs are not Pops team?
Explain how Pop is not responcible for the Spurs success. He seems to be a good coach ... Are the Spurs not "His team"
Now there is a good arguement (Much better then the management one)Quote:
I think it's noteworthy that Duncan led the Spurs to the 2003 championship without one other All-Star on the team.
This is a good point ... As long at it wasn't "Pop's team" ... cause that would mean that Pop made them better and not Duncan.
If it turns out that Exstatic can wiggle his way out of the web .. I will concede that Duncan makes his players "More better" ... in '03 :)
See, I warned him about pulling the "Team card", but he did anyway and now look. He has completely undermined evenything he had been arguing about.Quote:
Don't most coaches make the players around them better? So when Billups passed to Hamilton for the open jumper, it was Brown that made it happen?
Explain how Pop is not responcible for the Spurs success. He seems to be a good coach ... Are the Spurs not "His team"
This should be a lesson to you Spurs fans that think every arguement can be won by the "We have rings, that makes us better at everything" statement.
Ockham, a new poster by the looks of it, posted actual facts pertaining to the subject and changed my mind (Sort of), while the "We have rings" Statement took Duncan completely out of the running.
Try thinking about your team, not just the jewelery.
I always thought the lines were gray in the case of these arguments on Franchise Players making their teammates better. Sometimes the ripple effects of the presence/absence of the gamechanger/anchor of the team aren't always evident in championships. NBA is a big man's game, and it's not surprising Shaq and Duncan have been the only two considered to improve their teammates around them, making adequate players good. And good players, all-stars.
edit: I meant, more gooder players.