Shaq could only go 2-1 against old Drob...with Kobe, and PJ and Horry.Quote:
Originally Posted by mavsfan1000
Young Drob wiped his ass with Shaq.
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Shaq could only go 2-1 against old Drob...with Kobe, and PJ and Horry.Quote:
Originally Posted by mavsfan1000
Young Drob wiped his ass with Shaq.
By "way back then" you must mean pre-1994.Quote:
As for the all time list I can't make considering I haven't watched the games way back than. Olajuwon though is overrated as he had 2 or 3 great years and than faded
And Kareem didn't have Magic, Worthy, Robertson, Riley, etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
I'm assuming Walton is on the list due to his awesome play by play commentary abilities.
Hey, Walton was a great, great player ; if it wasn't for his injuries, he could have dominated the L for many years. When he was healthy, he gave Jabbar a really hard time
I agree w/ that, but I'll say this, if they were playing w/ Hakeem in his prime, he would roast any of the mofos on this list.Quote:
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Like this?Quote:
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The Admiral always frustrated Shaq. I remember when Shaq challened him to a boxing match.Quote:
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Originally Posted by dirk4mvp
I love his ESPN Sportsnation chats and his appearances on the morning talk shows. The guy gets in like 4 questions in a one-hour session. I remember last year around this time, he waxed poetic through a 15 minute segment of Mike & Mike about ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
GOAT!
Yup. Pretty much:Quote:
Originally Posted by mavsfan1000
And he only averaged 25.9 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 3.2 apg, and 3.3 bpg in 145 career playoff games.Code:Year Ag Tm Lg G MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
+---------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+
1985 22 HOU NBA 82 35.5 8.3 15.3 0.0 0.0 4.1 6.7 5.4 6.5 11.9 1.4 1.2 2.7 2.9 4.2 20.6
1986 23 HOU NBA 68 36.3 9.2 17.5 0.0 0.0 5.1 7.9 4.9 6.6 11.5 2.0 2.0 3.4 2.9 4.0 23.5
1987 24 HOU NBA 75 36.8 9.0 17.8 0.0 0.1 5.3 7.6 4.2 7.2 11.4 2.9 1.9 3.4 3.0 3.9 23.4
1988 25 HOU NBA 79 35.8 9.0 17.5 0.0 0.1 4.8 6.9 3.8 8.3 12.1 2.1 2.1 2.7 3.1 4.1 22.8
1989 26 HOU NBA 82 36.9 9.6 19.0 0.0 0.1 5.5 8.0 4.1 9.4 13.5 1.8 2.6 3.4 3.4 4.0 24.8
1990 27 HOU NBA 82 38.1 9.8 19.6 0.0 0.1 4.7 6.5 3.6 10.4 14.0 2.9 2.1 4.6 3.9 3.8 24.3
1991 28 HOU NBA 56 36.8 8.7 17.1 0.0 0.1 3.8 4.9 3.9 9.8 13.8 2.3 2.2 3.9 3.1 3.9 21.2
1992 29 HOU NBA 70 37.7 8.4 16.8 0.0 0.0 4.7 6.1 3.5 8.6 12.1 2.2 1.8 4.3 2.7 3.8 21.6
1993 30 HOU NBA 82 39.5 10.3 19.5 0.0 0.1 5.4 7.0 3.5 9.6 13.0 3.5 1.8 4.2 3.2 3.7 26.1
1994 31 HOU NBA 80 41.0 11.2 21.2 0.1 0.2 4.9 6.8 2.9 9.1 11.9 3.6 1.6 3.7 3.4 3.6 27.3
1995 32 HOU NBA 72 39.6 11.1 21.5 0.0 0.2 5.6 7.5 2.4 8.4 10.8 3.5 1.8 3.4 3.3 3.5 27.8
1996 33 HOU NBA 72 38.8 10.7 20.8 0.0 0.2 5.5 7.6 2.4 8.4 10.9 3.6 1.6 2.9 3.4 3.4 26.9
And he was only All-NBA First Team on 6 occasions, while making the 2nd Team 3 times and the 3rd Team 3 times. (most of which came in an era where he was competing, first, with guys like Jabbar, and later with guys like Shaq, Robinson, and Ewing). And he was only named 5 times to the First Team All-Defense selections and 4 times to the Second Team All-Defense. And he only had 12 All-Star appearances.
Other than a couple of years, though, he really wasn't very good at all.
You can't consider Hakeem overrated if you REALLY watched him play. Nice way to prove a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
93-96 is when Olajuwon made his mark. After that though he wasn't really that good. He definitely wasn't a Shaq on the offensive end that fouled everyone out. He had some solid players on that team. Kenny Smith, Sam Cassell, Robert Horry, Clyde Drexler, Vernon Maxwell, and Mario Elie. Shaq had Kobe and that is about it. Medvedenko? :lmao
It's amazing how he blocked enough shots in those 3 years to become the NBA's all time leader.
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Originally Posted by monosylab1k
Ever notice how other C's are measured by what they did against Drob?
Sabonis
Hakeem
Shaq
No one ever remember DRob winning the Gold Medal against Sabonis(when half his team wasn't sick)
No one remembers Drob PWNTING Hakeem head to head at a 30-12 clip, even with Hakeem being suppported by Barkley, and Pippen and Drexler.
No one remember Shaq's o-fer against Drob his first 3 years in the league...the trip doubles and near quads he laid on Shaq's one dimensional ass.
Post your All Star Dunk....shoulda watched Shaq's first All Star Game.
There aren't that many clips of Drob because Spurs games didn't get a lot of national PT...that's why you can take everything said about him(including by broadcasters who I gurantee didn't see him play that much) with a grain of salt.
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And how about the decade before that?Quote:
93-96 is when Olajuwon made his mark. After that though he wasn't really that good.
Bill Walton never even averaged 19 points a game in any season, not even his MVP campaign in 1977-78. Until his feet were finally fixed in 1985, he never played more than 65 games in a season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
In Walton's prime, his game was like Hakeem Olajuwon's in his decline.
Walton's "best days" were few and far between in the NBA, and his "great" pro career is a myth extrapolated from his achievements in college.
And the titles before that?Quote:
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But but...finals MVP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just like Chauncey Billups!
He probably doesn't think Dave was black enough.Quote:
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Speaking of titles.............
Did you watch basketball while Shaq and Kobe were winning championships?Quote:
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