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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by monosylab1k
You speak like somebody who didn't even watch the playoffs last season. Or the season before, for that matter.
Last season Stack shot 40% from the field and 34% from 3 during the playoffs, along with sub-80% free throw shooting. Finley? 48% and 38%, and 90% from the line.
The season before: 38%, 40%, 86% for Stack; 42%, 39%, 89% for Finley.
Neither of them plays any defense or creates anything for their teammates, so I'm taking into consideration their skill as finishers. And as a finisher, whenever the pressure is on, Stack is a guy opposing coaches have to love. That Avery Johnson also loves Stack is an ongoing mystery.
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by Bob Lanier
Last season Stack shot 40% from the field and 34% from 3 during the playoffs, along with sub-80% free throw shooting. Finley? 48% and 38%, and 90% from the line.
The season before: 38%, 40%, 86% for Stack; 42%, 39%, 89% for Finley.
Neither of them plays any defense or creates anything for their teammates, so I'm taking into consideration their skill as finishers. And as a finisher, whenever the pressure is on, Stack is a guy opposing coaches have to love. That Avery Johnson also loves Stack is an ongoing mystery.
Again, spoken like a guy who didn't watch the playoffs. There's no doubt Stackhouse has his flaws (especially when he forgets he's a 6th man and thinks he's a star)....but to say that Finley is more clutch and could outplay Stack at this stage of their careers....well that's said by somebody who wants to look at shot percentages to base their beliefs.
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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It's not so much about Tony not being clutch, it's about the fact that he had just started (and still is) improving as a shooter. Mavs took away his driving lanes and he can't do much. He's been much more consistent this year, so this postseason should be a good indicator of his actual clutchness.
The question was wether Parker was a "clutch" as Terry .... The answer was that Terry hit the shots that Parker didn't ... Now you can make excuses about defense and everything else, but clutch is clutch reguardless of defense.
Your reasoning that he is more clutch because "this postseason should be a good indicator" Means nothing, until it happens ... Or doesn't.
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by monosylab1k
Again, spoken like a guy who didn't watch the playoffs.
I watched the playoffs. In fact, I'm pretty sure I've watched every NBA playoff game Jerry Stackhouse has ever played, and most of Finley's, as well.
For example, I distinctly remember watching Stack losing Game 1 of the Spurs series for you.
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by Bob Lanier
I watched the playoffs. In fact, I'm pretty sure I've watched every NBA playoff game Jerry Stackhouse has ever played, and most of Finley's, as well.
For example, I distinctly remember watching Stack losing Game 2 of the Spurs series for you.
LOL the Mavs won game 2. Game Over. Enjoy your night.
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
Stack is better the Finley. Many times this year when the Mavs were facing an opposing run, AJ would put in Stackhouse because if there is one thing that he WILL DO, its get to the rim for a hard shot AND FOUL. He not afread of contact in any way, shape, or form.
He has broken more opposing runs then any other Mav. Can you say that about Finley? This by the way is on top of everything else that he does.
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by monosylab1k
LOL the Mavs won game 2. Game Over. Enjoy your night.
He did make a horrendous decision at the end of Game 1.
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
He did make a horrendous decision at the end of Game 1.
No doubt about that....but that guy DISTINCTLY remembered Stackhouse fucking up to lose game TWO.
That is, before he decided to fix his mistake :lol
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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He did make a horrendous decision at the end of Game 1.
So I guess that puts him on the same level as Manu? Everyone has a bad moment, Stack has more good then bad, he hasn't vanished for weeks at a time like Finley has this year
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
Well I think its pretty obvious that Stack definately has more in the tank than Fin, but I still trust Fin will make a couple of big shots in the playoffs for us. But Stack is definately the better player at this point of his career
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by Dalhoop
The question was wether Parker was a "clutch" as Terry .... The answer was that Terry hit the shots that Parker didn't ... Now you can make excuses about defense and everything else, but clutch is clutch reguardless of defense.
Your reasoning that he is more clutch because "this postseason should be a good indicator" Means nothing, until it happens ... Or doesn't.
Mavs fan.....living in the past? WTF?
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by sprrs
It's not so much about Tony not being clutch, it's about the fact that he had just started (and still is) improving as a shooter. Mavs took away his driving lanes and he can't do much. He's been much more consistent this year, so this postseason should be a good indicator of his actual clutchness.
what the fuck does that have to do with anything? if he cant shoot, then thats his problem. thats the stupidest excuse ive ever fucking heard. its as stupid as saying something like, Shaq was great because he would have been greater if he knew how to shoot. makes no sense whatsoever.
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by SpursDynasty
Dirk better than Duncan? :lol
I mean I know Dirk makes his jump shots, but please. Matt Bonner has more basketball moves than Dirk.
Dirk made you all do this last June :pctoss
Actually, that was Wade.
U are so full of shit.. why don't u just shut the fuck up!
Dirk >>> Bonner
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
mavs don't have a "big 3." dirk and josh howard. that's it. the rest alright, but none are at the level of manu or tony.
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by itzsoweezee
mavs don't have a "big 3." dirk and josh howard. that's it. the rest alright, but none are at the level of manu or tony.
Jason Terry averages just as many points as Manu, so how could manu be in a big 3 but not Terry?
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by mardigan
Jason Terry averages just as many points as Manu, so how could manu be in a big 3 but not Terry?
1) terry plays 8 more minutes a game
2) manu is a much much bigger threat to the opposing team. terry would never get the kind of attention manu gets
3) manu's impact and brilliance on any game transcends any stats.
4) manu's been an all-star, chosen by the coaches. terry hasn't
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
The only argument that holds weight is the minutes, the rest is just your opinion, except the all star, which is still just opinion. I think Terry can be just as dangerous as Manu, especially at the end of the game
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by stretch
what the fuck does that have to do with anything? if he cant shoot, then thats his problem. thats the stupidest excuse ive ever fucking heard. its as stupid as saying something like, Shaq was great because he would have been greater if he knew how to shoot. makes no sense whatsoever.
When you focus your entire defense on stopping a point guard who's only strength is driving into the lane, saying he dissapears because he doesn't have the mental toughness to be a game finisher is ridiculous.
And to bring my argument down to your level: fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by mardigan
The only argument that holds weight is the minutes, the rest is just your opinion, except the all star, which is still just opinion. I think Terry can be just as dangerous as Manu, especially at the end of the game
at the very least, terry isn't as good as manu for two reasons. of course, in reality, manu is better than terry for more than just two reasons. but at least we've established now that terry isn't on manu's level.
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by itzsoweezee
at the very least, terry isn't as good as manu for two reasons. of course, in reality, manu is better than terry for more than just two reasons. but at least we've established now that terry isn't on manu's level.
I dont think that he is as good as Manu, Im a Spurs fan for shits sake, Im just saying that Terry is a huge part of the mavs team, and to say that he isnt one of their big three doesnt make a lot of sense to me
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by mardigan
I dont think that he is as good as Manu, Im a Spurs fan for shits sake, Im just saying that Terry is a huge part of the mavs team, and to say that he isnt one of their big three doesnt make a lot of sense to me
the reason i say that is, if the mavs' big 3 are more consistent as a unit on offense, its more b/c they've got a big 2 and a good role player. it's a lot harder for three all-star caliber scorers to play well together on offense.
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by SpursDynasty
I mean I know Dirk makes his jump shots, but please. Matt Bonner has more basketball moves than Dirk.
This post truly deserves an outstanding award. :lmao
What's next? Udrih better than Harris?
So are you starting that "Bonner for MVP" chant?
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by sprrs
When you focus your entire defense on stopping a point guard who's only strength is driving into the lane, saying he dissapears because he doesn't have the mental toughness to be a game finisher is ridiculous.
And to bring my argument down to your level: fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
i dont think that was the mavs entire defensive focus. all i said, and the fact is, is that Terry made big plays, while Parker did not.
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
I NEVER SAID MATT BONNER WAS BETTER THAN DIRK.
I said he has more moves than just a fadeaway jump shot, which doesn't say a lot. Most players do more than just shoot. Having more moves doesn't make a player better. I just said that to emphasize that Dirk is boring to watch, except when he's losing.
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Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by SpursDynasty
I NEVER SAID MATT BONNER WAS BETTER THAN DIRK.
I said he has more moves than just a fadeaway jump shot, which doesn't say a lot. Most players do more than just shoot. Having more moves doesn't make a player better. I just said that to emphasize that Dirk is boring to watch, except when he's losing.
ah ok... but you know what? call me stupid, but i've always found Tim duncan more interesting to watch than any of Vince Carter's team. Carter has probably a million times more move than Tim's.
Be objective. If you really want an interesting team, root for Phoenix. Spurs may be too boring for most people. Actually Tim has fewer moves than Dirk, but that doesn't make Tim really boring.
