Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by Udrihlooms
Actually Tim has fewer moves than Dirk
:lol
Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by Udrihlooms
Actually Tim has fewer moves than Dirk, but that doesn't make Tim really boring.
God that was dumb
Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by Udrihlooms
ah ok... but you know what? call me stupid, but i've always found Tim duncan more interesting to watch than any of Vince Carter's team. Carter has probably a million times more move than Tim's.
Be objective. If you really want an interesting team, root for Phoenix. Spurs may be too boring for most people. Actually Tim has fewer moves than Dirk, but that doesn't make Tim really boring.
I agree Dirk is damn good and does more then people credit him for, but Tim duncan having fewer moves than him? Sorry, you cant play post as good as Tim Duncan with fewer moves than Dirk... it just doesn't work.
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WTF is up today Mardigan? I swear, all day long it seems we have been posting in the same threads saying just about the exact same fucking thing! your freaking me out, STOP IT! :lol
Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by phyzik
I agree Dirk is damn good and does more then people credit him for, but Tim duncan having fewer moves than him? Sorry, you cant play post as good as Tim Duncan with fewer moves than Dirk... it just doesn't work.
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WTF is up today Mardigan? I swear, all day long it seems we have been posting in the same threads saying just about the exact same fucking thing! your freaking me out, STOP IT! :lol
Ive got mental powers bro, I wont go any further into it
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Well, give me boring then, my main man is Tim Duncan. He and Dirk lead the pack, are led by boring coaches mirroring same boring plays and boring defensive schemes, which can lead to hohum boring but healthy winning percentages, which can make for a lot of boring arguments whenever it gets too boring around here.
But do we ever yawn our way through the playoffs?
Helno.
Give me boring, I prefer it over endless, masturbative slamdunks and nano-seconds left lobs.
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i'm glad to see this thread got some good responses
Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by Amuseddaysleeper
i'm glad to see this thread got some good responses
Well thats what good topics will do for ya
Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by phyzik
I agree Dirk is damn good and does more then people credit him for, but Tim duncan having fewer moves than him? Sorry, you cant play post as good as Tim Duncan with fewer moves than Dirk... it just doesn't work.
ok, i'm being stupid, i have to take that back. those fundamental footwork moves are actually several moves put together. :lol
anyway, i hope getting this correctly now: i think dirk is even more flashy than Tim, but flashiness doesn't automatically translate to greatness. Again Carter should be the best example.
Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by stretch
i dont think that was the mavs entire defensive focus. all i said, and the fact is, is that Terry made big plays, while Parker did not.
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.
The argument was that Tony has never been considered a clutch player, I was just stating why. He did suck pretty badly in the WCSF, but in previous years teams focused on shutting him down completely. His shot is much improved this year, and as such, this post season is where we see if he dissapeared because of his mental toughness, or because he didn't have a jump shot.
Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by Jay Mariotti
You want to talk about clutch?
How about those Dallas Mavericks destroying the defending champion Spurs, on their homecourt, in a game 7?
I never was a believer until that game when Dirk single handley destroyed San Antonio in dedication for his hero, David Hasselhoff.
I dare anyone of you to find a more touching and inspiring performance than that one.
Fast forward to NBA Finals 2006, and suddenly a second round victory doesn't mean much, no matter how much Dallas fans and NBA media try to tell us all that it does.
And as far as a more touching and inspiring performance, I'd pick Alonzo Mourning's 5 blocks in Game 6 of the Finals. :clap
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Originally Posted by sprrs
The argument was that Tony has never been considered a clutch player, I was just stating why. He did suck pretty badly in the WCSF, but in previous years teams focused on shutting him down completely. His shot is much improved this year, and as such, this post season is where we see if he dissapeared because of his mental toughness, or because he didn't have a jump shot.
Dont bother trying to argue with Stretch. He is a hypocritical douche bag who always has to be right. :rolleyes :rolleyes You are just wasting your time trying to reason with him.
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The argument was that Tony has never been considered a clutch player, I was just stating why. He did suck pretty badly in the WCSF, but in previous years teams focused on shutting him down completely. His shot is much improved this year, and as such, this post season is where we see if he dissapeared because of his mental toughness, or because he didn't have a jump shot.
Alright, I get it. Your saying that he isn't clutch right now, but with his improved play, this could change in this years playoffs .... I can see that, a sort of "Hope springs eternal" sort of thing.
Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by spursreport
Dont bother trying to argue with Stretch. He is a hypocritical douche bag who always has to be right. :rolleyes :rolleyes You are just wasting your time trying to reason with him.
if your spursreport site is so great, when why are you posting here no one likes you here. all you do is post useless garbage. i hope someone bans your stupid ass. i dont think you have ever once posted something that actually contributed to the board.
Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by sprrs
The argument was that Tony has never been considered a clutch player, I was just stating why. He did suck pretty badly in the WCSF, but in previous years teams focused on shutting him down completely. His shot is much improved this year, and as such, this post season is where we see if he dissapeared because of his mental toughness, or because he didn't have a jump shot.
yea. we will see. i dont think teams whole defensive focus was to ever shut him down completely, and it certainly wasn't the Mavericks focus last season. but you cannot make excuses for him dissapearring in the past is what im saying. if he didnt have a jumper back then, he should have found other ways to contribute. for a while, Jordan wasnt a great outside shooter, but he always found ways to make plays. Magic was never a great outside shooter, but again, he too found ways to make plays. thats what great players do. find ways to make plays, despite limitations. they have to use what they have to make plays. shaq had nothing but size and strength, and we see it netted him 3 rings. granted, Parker is no where near the level of any of them, and never will even dream about being remotely close, but if hes truly a clutch player, he would find a way to make plays. thats what clutch players do. they find ways to make plays when they matter most.
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Are you really comparing Tony to Jordan Magic and Shaq??? You are really the biggest Tony fan here :p:
Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by Clutch20
Well, give me boring then, my main man is Tim Duncan. He and Dirk lead the pack, are led by boring coaches mirroring same boring plays and boring defensive schemes, which can lead to hohum boring but healthy winning percentages, which can make for a lot of boring arguments whenever it gets too boring around here.
But do we ever yawn our way through the playoffs?
Helno.
Give me boring, I prefer it over endless, masturbative slamdunks and nano-seconds left lobs.
I believed defense wins championship... actually it is boringness
I learned one thing today :reading :lol
Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by Jay Mariotti
You want to talk about clutch?
How about those Dallas Mavericks destroying the defending champion Spurs, on their homecourt, in a game 7?
I never was a believer until that game when Dirk single handley destroyed San Antonio in dedication for his hero, David Hasselhoff.
I wouldnt call blowing a lead only to have the game go into overtime because of a foul destroying the opponent...
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I dare anyone of you to find a more touching and inspiring performance than that one.
Memorial Day Miracle...
Robert Horry rising from the ashes like a vengefull Phoenix in game 5...
and the mother of all that totally blows away Dirks "Masterfull" performance???
David Robinson winning a championship and then retiring.
Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by SpursDynasty
Fast forward to NBA Finals 2006, and suddenly a second round victory doesn't mean much, no matter how much Dallas fans and NBA media try to tell us all that it does.
No response to this? :lol
Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
I think what we all know is that a series like last year's series more frequently comes down to the things you can't really analyze than it does to questions like this. I mean, for crissakes, one could make a very legitmate argument that the difference in the Spurs/Mavs series in 2006 was Keith Van Horn draining 3 huge three pointers in Game 7. If Van Horn doesn't hit those shots -- arguably -- the Spurs 4th quarter comeback sweeps the Mavs away in a 2003-like tidal wave. Nobody that I can recall ever argued that KVH might prove to be a major factor in that series, but he indisputably was.
Teams that win in a big series tend to get at least some meaningful contributions from unexpected sources. I maintain that the Spurs and Mavericks are actually remarkably close from a matchup standpoint. I think it's conceivable that either could win in 5 games and either could win in 7. But I'm certain that someone unexpected will provide some production to make a difference in the ultimate outcome.
Dirk gives the Mavs the better opportunity to determine tempo and matchups. The Spurs, I think, have the best singular player. I think the Spurs also probably have the most clutch player on either roster -- or at least the guy I'd most want with the ball in his hands (from an objective standpoint) if I had to have one play to win. But the Mavs have more guys who can do more things to win games. The Spurs have a lot of one-trick ponies who don't make much of a difference (and can actually hurt the team) if they aren't performing that trick.
I hope the series comes off. Last year's was the best playoff series I've ever witnessed in person.
I agree with all of this. Excellent way of comparing Dirk & Duncan as well.
Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by SpursDynasty
I NEVER SAID MATT BONNER WAS BETTER THAN DIRK.
I said he has more moves than just a fadeaway jump shot, which doesn't say a lot. Most players do more than just shoot. Having more moves doesn't make a player better. I just said that to emphasize that Dirk is boring to watch, except when he's losing.
No one is more boring to watch than Tim Duncan and the Spurs. Get the fuck outta here homer :elephant
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Originally Posted by Amarelooms
No one is more boring to watch than Tim Duncan and the Spurs. Get the fuck outta here homer :elephant
Tim Duncan isn't the most exciting player, but Dirk is still more predictable than Duncan. We know that he'll probably shoot a fadeaway jumper, and miss the most crucial free throws.
The Mavs are boring players with no personalities.
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Originally Posted by SpursDynasty
Tim Duncan isn't the most exciting player, but Dirk is still more predictable than Duncan. We know that he'll probably shoot a fadeaway jumper, and miss the most crucial free throws.
The Mavs are boring players with no personalities.
HAHHAHA...see you in thw WCF
Re: Our big 3 vs Mavs big 3
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Originally Posted by Amarelooms
HAHHAHA...see you in thw WCF
That's even if Dallas has enough left after Golden State in the first round and Utah in the second round. Dallas is 1-3 vs those teams this year.
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Originally Posted by SpursDynasty
Tim Duncan isn't the most exciting player, but Dirk is still more predictable than Duncan. We know that he'll probably shoot a fadeaway jumper, and miss the most crucial free throws.
The Mavs are boring players with no personalities.
Dirk shoots a straight away jumper (w/o fading) about 40% of the time, a fade away (back to basket) jumper about 40% of the time and drives to the hoop the other 20% of the time.
And, yes, Dirk may miss a crucial free throw every once in awhile but he still shoots over 80% from the line (compared to his regular 90%) in crucial situations. The media only shows his missed free throws though. I bet you'd take Dirk's free throw % (even when he's choking at 80%) over Duncan's every day of the week.
